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I really would appreciate an answer... Our dogs have suffered from a lot of dry skin this year. Someone told me to put Avon's, skin-so-soft on them and it would help it. I am afraid to do it because i don't want to poison them...Has any one ever done this????, and is it safe????
 

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skin-so-soft is safe to use on pets as far as i know, however, it won't help their dry skin.

what are they eating, and are you supplementing them with anything? how old are they, and do they have any health conditions?

dogs can have dry skin for a lot of reasons, including endocrine (thyroid issues), environmental (dry heat, etc), dermatologic (skin issues that result in a lot of scratching).

you can try including in their diet some fish oil and such, but that just masks the problem in some cases. you can also look into some moisturizing sprays (humilac comes to mind, but it smells awful IMO in the bottle!), shampoos, and conditioners. a change in diet may also help, or a humidifier.
 
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you know what worked for our blue female is putting her on Missing link it is a supplement and her skin has cleared up alot... i cant say it willw ork for your dog but i know it has helped our dogs... maybe you can try it to see if it will work for yours... but i would FIRST consult your vet... there could be an underlying problem that causes it.. not anything you or anyone here will know about. but talk to your vet first then if he/she doesnt know then go for fish oil... fish oil should be a supplement anyway but talk to the doctor FIRST.. because he/she can be the only one that can and should be advising you on what to do incase it is allergic reaction or so on... hugs anyways hope that helps
 
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doberkim:

Odie in the sig(saddle) is 8 yrs...and Odo in the sig (black ) is 5 yrs.

They have never had this kind of thing before. They just started this, this summer (funny that it is both of them huh!!!) but we just figured it was because of the heat and that our air broke down. They have always been used to the air. They both started scratching and biting at their self and it started to give them redness on their skin. We went and bought different types of shampoo and a spray called, Pet Aid medicated anti-itch. (supposed to help[ heal hot spots and, relive pain and itching caused by fleas and, allergic dermatitis.) I have been bathing them as needed ( which is when i see the skin start to get pink) That has resulted in at least one bath every 2 weeks. Also they have been on different flea meds because it seemed as if nothing worked to well this summer and i would still see one or two fleas on them. Always kept on top of it though to keep them off. But i am sure they still bit them.

No health conditions except that Odie is allergic to beef.

They are eating Eagle Pack, Holistic, Chicken meal and rice formula. No supplements.

I will try the fish oil...someone told me that a can of sardines at least 3 or four times a week was good for them. Will that work or do i need to get some kind of bottle of oil....if so where and what? will it tell me how much to give????

Whitedobelover:

I would be interested in trying this Missing link stuff. What is it and where do i get it.

And yes if it continues i will speak to a vet to see if they think they might need to skin test.

P.S. Oh yea it is also kind of odd (but don't know if it is the reason) that we switched them from the Imas to the Eagle Pack just before this started:confused: . But this is a good food so i hope it is not the case.
 

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Just an FYI some dogs can be very sensitive to skin so soft. Dilute it 1st w/ water and do a test on a small patch of skin. Check to see if the is any inflamation, color change, rash or dry flaky skin. Increase the level (put in less water) until you are at full streght or what ever dilution you want. We use it for their skin and flies, we have so many here. I talked to my vet about using it and they have had some dogs have reaction to it. My chis do fine w/ it but I have to use a very low stregth on the boxer (sensitive skin).
I have also used plain baby oil on my dogs when they have had dry skin. ANd my chi gets these things from petsmart. They are stick that help her breath and coat. 1 she smells better and 2 less shedding and less dry skin. I think they are called thera stcks.
 
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okay... first things first... i dont like any human products used on dogs... just my opinion... Mission link is at petsmart or all holistic dog food stores... i get mine from holistic store and i pay out the butt so if you go to petsmart you can get a pretty good price on Missing LInk you just supplement into their food when you feed them... I hope this helps..

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if this started right when you changed foods, one of the most logical places to look is at the food then - it may not be that the food is a BAD one (and its not) - just that its not right for them - each dog is an individual and does best on something different.

it could be the inredients, too much grain, not enough oil - maybe try switching them back to their old diet for awhile to see if that helps?
 
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It would be unusual for both dogs to have the same reaction to a change in food unless they were littermates or closely related. It sounds more like flea dermatitis than anything else.

Colloidal oatmeal baths are soothing and moisturizing, and safe. Sardines or raw egg can help with the dryness also.
 

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having dry skin may not necessarily be a reaction - the food may just be low in oil for what they are used to.

flea allergy dermatitis manifests itself almost exclusively as alopecia and some pyoderma at the base of the tail - it's a very specific location, and if dogs have systemic signs with the FAD, then its almost always due to a secondary problem.

food allergies are actually quite rare in dogs - imsuggesting that this food just isnt doing it for them - having dry skin isnt a major health concern, but it just may be this food doesnt do it for them.

some dogs just do better on different foods - and it can manifest in duller coats, soft stools, more frequent stools, flakey skin, a coarser coat, or increased hair loss.
 
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It would be unusual for both dogs to have the same reaction to a change in food unless they were littermates or closely related. It sounds more like flea dermatitis than anything else.
Colloidal oatmeal baths are soothing and moisturizing, and safe. Sardines or raw egg can help with the dryness also.
They are not litter mates, but they have the same mother, 1 litter apart.

I use that shampoo, But i will give some raw eggs in the morning....How many , how often?????????


if this started right when you changed foods, one of the most logical places to look is at the food then - it may not be that the food is a BAD one (and its not) - just that its not right for them - each dog is an individual and does best on something different.

it could be the inredients, too much grain, not enough oil - maybe try switching them back to their old diet for awhile to see if that helps?
I hope it is not the food:confused: ...but in any case i will not put them back on the old food...It was Imams. Need to try some of the other things I guess or switch to some other type of Holistic food....Maybe Mordy might have some idea( if she reads this) on what i should do about the food change.

okay... first things first... i dont like any human products used on dogs... just my opinion... Mission link is at petsmart or all holistic dog food stores... i get mine from holistic store and i pay out the butt so if you go to petsmart you can get a pretty good price on Missing LInk you just supplement into their food when you feed
No i really don't either, but i heard other people did. But i will have my son go and find the missing link.

I have also used plain baby oil on my dogs when they have had dry skin. ANd my chi gets these things from petsmart. They are stick that help her breath and coat. 1 she smells better and 2 less shedding and less dry skin. I think they are called thera stcks.
Hummmmm. Sounds like something i would try. Will keep it in mind.

having dry skin may not necessarily be a reaction - the food may just be low in oil for what they are used to.

flea allergy dermatitis manifests itself almost exclusively as alopecia and some pyoderma at the base of the tail - it's a very specific location, and if dogs have systemic signs with the FAD, then its almost always due to a secondary problem.

food allergies are actually quite rare in dogs - imsuggesting that this food just isnt doing it for them - having dry skin isnt a major health concern, but it just may be this food doesnt do it for them.

some dogs just do better on different foods - and it can manifest in duller coats, soft stools, more frequent stools, flakey skin, a coarser coat, or increased hair loss.
I am charging the batteries on my camera and then i will try to get a couple of pic's to show.

The flea med's i put on them the other day is not working i found a couple on them when they came in tonight.:eek:

I am getting really frustrated i thought it was getting better then they started licking and scratching even more tonight....Bath time again tomorrow ...It relives them for about a week.

Edited to say: Thank you all for all the help you are giving me. I am determined to get these little one back to normal. I will try any and all recommendations. I hope to be able to get it taken care of without having to go to the vet. Because i feel it is something i have done or not done that cause it sense it just started. And i really don't have the money they want right now to do the skin test's. But if it continues i will take them.
 
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WAIT! You gave them flea treatment, if it is a liquid like frontline, don't bathe them for a few days. It should be a few days after a bath and a few days b4 a bath. You need their natural oils to be present so that the stuff will work properly and if you bath them too soon you will wash it away. Some products they can still have fleas but they will die after contact. We actually treat our yard in adition to treating our pets. Most you can spray the yard and then once it is dry it is nolonger harmful to pets.
Some pets can even have a reation to flea treatment. It's rare but can happen. I'd give it some time b4 giving a bath or using the baby oil or skin so soft, b/c of the flea treatment.
Also call your vet thye might have you try each thing over a prd of time (give each a chance and not change too much too fast). Plus they might want to check them out to rule out anything serious or something that can't be solved over the counter. Mine is pretty good at having me try things and observe for a prd of time b4 we come in for a visit. He might have me try soemthing and monitor any improvements for a wk, plus he'll say if this occurs call me and bring them in. Luckily I don't have to pay for visits (I have a wellness plan), so he doesn't try to get me to come in just to get $, so if he wants to see them there is a real reason.
Let us know how they are doing!
 

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i'll be happy to make recommendations on food, but a better way of going about it is that you tell me what's available to you and i'll help you making the best choice.

there are hundreds of different products on the market, it doesn't do any good if i recommend a bunch and you can't buy them locally. :)

eagle pack is a good quality food, but the type you are feeding may not be ideal for your dog. which one is it?
 

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