I might lose my dog!

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Not pinning this on you, more like the vet, but....how in the heck do you know if something is wrong with the dog unless you check him out? What will quarentine do if it is just making is condition worse? Ok, sorry for the really short rant.... :mad:
I think, though I might be wrong, it might take this time for the man that got bit to show any signs of rabies. If the man doesn't have rabies, then they should be all set.
 

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Oliver, before all this happened, you mentioned that you don't have a social life. Does that mean that Capone has never really been outside interacting with neither humans or other animals?
 
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oh Oliver im so sorry i hope your dog doesnt get put down that would be so sad if that happened:( i suggest that you keep him on a muzzle when he is around dogs and people and take him to a training and also in your spare time train him
 

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I'll admit, I've only read the first page so forgive me if this has been said already.

I don't know if you're breed is known for being people aggressive, I remember someone on the first page said that they aren't suppose to be. With your dog being people aggressive there are two possibilities. 1. That's it's really a mix and not what you think he is. or 2. He came from unscrupulous breeders who weren't breeding to better the breed. It could be that all this isn't your fault.

Or, it could be because of lack of training and socialization, which would be your fault.

Either way, I know you don't want to hear this, but if your dog is people aggressive if needs to be put to sleep!! You're upset because you don't want to loose your dog. And you're justifying that the attacks that have happened are ok because no one has been seriously hurt... what are you going to do/feel like if your dog kills someone? What are you going to do about court costs when the family of the person he killed sues you? Is all that worth not loosing your dog?

I've got two pitbull puppies. I spend 1-2 hours a day training them both on and off leash. I introduce them to everyone who doesn't run the other way when hearing what breed they are. As soon as the vet can do it, they are being fixed. It's part of being a responsible owner. And dispite all the work that I'm putting into them and all the love I give them, if their genetic end up being bad and they become people aggressive, they will be put to sleep.
 

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Yeah, well I'm not allowed to even take him for a walk, he can only be in our fenced in yard.

He hasnt been nuetured, they say it adds to agression.

I have this gut feeling that this isnt going to end happy, I have to accept that I might have to put him down, I dont think anyone is willing to work with him, or I wont be able to find a home, I will try, but no one wants a dog who bites, and is agressive, period. It hurts so much just thinking about it, and I cant even take him to be put down for 15 more days, I know my Mom is going to end up wanting to do this, she will make me take him to be Put to sleep, and I have to watch him for the next 15 days knowing his time will be up, and its so sad, and I cant stop thinking about it!!

Even some state laws say its illegal to give away a dog that has been bitten
that some home insurence companys will drop you for having one.

They make it so hard, if your dog is aggressive and has bitten you either can work with him, or put him down. Theres no way you can give him away. My Mom wont let me keep him! its not fair!

my poor capone, he acts so normal like nothing happened, he acts wonderfull around me, so happy. I feel horrible! I want to help him, but whomever I call, where-ever I look, they tell me they dont take dogs that have bitten, that hes better off being put down.

have you tried an animal communicator, i know it sounds dumb but your dog doesnt deserve to die
 

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Hello,

So earliar today was Capones last day, I went with him to the vet's office so he could be put down, and it was horrible. They didn't want me to stay to watch but I insisted, I did not want him to die alone. When we first got in there he was so scared he went to the bathroom all over the place, than they gave him the sedative shot, he became tired and shakey than fell down, I had him lay in my arms, and they gave him the final shot, and he went to sleep, it was horrible, having him die in my arms, my poor capone. Now I cant get the thoughts, the pictures of him dying in my arms, and seeing my dog dead, I cant stop thinking about it, and cant stop crying. Nothing feels right, What I did today doesnt feel right, I killed my dog, it was a pre-emptive strike, I killed my puppy dog because we thought he was going to attack again, I feel horrible. He will never forgive me, and I miss him so much, things just arnt the same, things will never be the same ever again, I feel so responsible. Even worst I feel like a cruel person, deceptive, He didnt know he was going to die when he woke up, and we tricked him into his own death, it makes me sick, I feel disgusted. I was such a bad trainer, but I loved my dog, and I couldn't control him, and now he is paying the ultimate price.
 

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you did what you had to, loosing any animal hurts. You're not alone in that feeling. Learn from your mistake so it doesn't happen again.
 

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i feel for, you, i lost a rabbit once, but i doubt it is the same.
He died the best way he could have, in your arms, it could have been worse, i feel for you.
 

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No, it gets worse

A day after capone, today, I wake up and I go up stairs, and my Mom without my permission had gotten another dog! Already, one day after! I dont even want another dog, I told her this, its a little schipperke or whatever, and its a girl! and my Mom leaves out of town for 2 days with my sister and leaves this thing with me, its not fair, I dont want to do this anymore. The little thing bites me everytime I go upstairs, I cant do this again.
 

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She probably wanted you to feel better :( You should talk to her and try to find a solution.

Anyway, don't be too hard on yourself. Like someone said, maybe the breeder didn't really care much for their dogs and didn't make sure they were socialized enough when babies. Maybe he got taken from his mom too early, and there is nothing you could have done about it. About how you feel, I've been there, and keep in mind that it's a sickness, and it's often the depression that acts for you. I agree that it's still your choices, it's just much harder when you feel that way. I did things I'm not so proud of when I went through it, but I know it's not entirely my fault - I never asked to be depressed. But yes, maybe you should try to see a doctor about it, I know it's hard though, but it will help you deal with it.

Maybe you can see this dog as a new beginning, or a way of making you feel better with yourself by taking the time to train it and socialize it. Although by what you said about it it might be an adult dog?
 

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No, its a little puppy 8 weeks old, a schipperke or something, a little tiny black furry thing, and its a girl!

My mom just left her with notes saying take care of her, she went out of town. It doesnt make me feel better, it just reminds me more of capone. the little thing bugs me so much.
 

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Oliver you did what you had to do. Putting Capone down was what was best for him. Like I told you about my husky and her aggression problems people had suggested for us to put her down and we didn't. Although I do believe that us getting her the trainer was a waste of money because she didn't learn anything from this person. She has gotten a little better but not much. Although the vet thinks that the aggression may stem from her cancer. Something had to be done with him and obviously if he couldn't be worked with then putting him to sleep was the best and only option. It may seem hard now but you will soon come to realize that what you did was for the best both for your family and for Capone. I am very sorry for your loss but it had to be done. If you didn't do this he could have bit someone else and maybe killed someone (it could have been a child). So what was done was for the best. I'm sure that many people here are willing to lend a supportive ear, I am one of them. Best of luck in you healing process I know it is never easy to lose an animal.
 

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Whoa....That was a very sad thread :(

Oliver I am very sorry for you loss, make sure to keep you head up and learn from you mistakes. When you decide to take on another dog there are a ton of people here to help you with advice.
 

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Well,

I dont want another dog, I just want to mourn for my Capone, and make things right again, maybe even start worrying about myself. Im glad this new dog is a little one, hopefully I'm just babysitting because I really dont want another dog.

After what I saw, and what i've been through with capone, I dont think I'm a capable trainer and owner, and I dont think I'm willing to put in the time.

With Capone, I begged my Mom to have him for weeks, until she finally gave in. I made promises of walking him, playing with him, taking him where I go, and paying for everything for him, and train him.

Now I did get a job, and he was with me 24/7, I did come short on alot of my promises, but having him got old, and at the same time it became routine, but he was always there with me, and now that he is gone, I realize even more how much he meant to me, and I took it for granted, I really did love that dog, and I love dogs period, I've grown up with them my entire life. But, I dont think I am responsible enough to train, and take care of one completely, and I cant give them the constant attention that they need.

I told my Mom that I was through with dogs, the day that Capone was put down she discussed getting another dog for me, and I told her NO. And she goes out and gets this little puppy we have cats bigger than, and forces me to watch her why she is on vacation, its like a nightmare. She is going to keep this thing, I talked to her on the phone, but glady little dogs dont require as much attention as the bigger ones, this dog isnt capable of hurting anyone.
 

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Oh man...

I hadn't kept much of an eye on this thread until today.

I am very sorry to hear about your loss.. it sounds like you truly did care about him. :(

But I mean he must've died happily in his loving owners arms.

Again, sorry you had to go through all this...
 

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that makes me angry, look after this dog while your mum is out but make sure she knows how you feel, that can't possibly help the situation.
 

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i hope things do get better, but this dog should not be made your responsibility, your still grieving, you don't need anymore reminders, you have plenty taht he would have left behind. I am glad taht you can say you are not ready for a dog at the moment. And make sure taht if you can't keep this dog then you find it a good home.
 

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If your mom brought this dog into the house she should be the one to take care of it not you. Make sure you tell her that, tell her that you didn't want another dog and you still don't want another dog. Maybe she intended for the dog to be a family dog and not strictly your dog for you to care for and train.
 

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Very sorry for your loss but as others have said on this forum, take what lessons you can from this incident. You know much more about what to do and what not to with raising a dog. I wouldn't feel comfortable raising another dog like you have mentioned, but when you are ready, apply what you learned with Capone and I'm sure things will look up. Best of luck.
 

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It may be a good idea to put your dog into anothers hands for a while, if not permanently. He will indeed be better off in the end, no matter what happens to your baby. It's important for you right now to take a better focus on yourself and your life. You're only 18 -- but you're also now legally an adult. I'm sorry that things are the way they are for you. There is a reason why your dogs behaviour is less than healthy. I wouldn't say it's your fault, and I wouldn't say it's your parents fault... But like someone said -- somewhere down the line something went wrong. It's a good time to turn things around for the best. I understand your social "issues" as I feel the same. I've always been this way, but I do know that things get better -- especially if you take the initiative.

edited because I didn't realise there were more pages... I'm new to these forums... Anyways I hope things are looking up : )
 

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