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i am a professional dog trainer and if any one has ny questions i will be more than happy to try and help you solve them. i have been training for 20 years and trained in the police force for 6 years i now run weekly training classes and i trainguide dogs anddogs for the deaf so if anyone has a any questions then please ask i will try my best to solve any problems or awnser any questions.
remember a trained dog is a happy dog.
from katey
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Welcome! What kind of methods do you use? What is your philosophy about dogs and how they perceive things? Just interested. This should be great. I'm sure there will be lots of questions, issues, problems that we all face from time to time with our dogs. Glad you're here.
 
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Id apretiate some help with a slightly boisterous puppy with which normal methods I've used before are not working.

Also Id be very interested in your personal work background, Im studyign toward becoming a domestic animal behaviourist at the moment.
 

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Id apretiate some help with a slightly boisterous puppy with which normal methods I've used before are not working.

Also Id be very interested in your personal work background, Im studyign toward becoming a domestic animal behaviourist at the moment.
what's up with your pup? There are a lot of experienced members here who could give you a hand. Why don't you post in the training forum?
 

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Oh my. And I've just started reading... staffs are 'nasty little buggers', are they? :mad:

And dangerous advice in the first thread. A shake can for a fear aggressive dog? Oiy.

I'd LOVE to see the credentials you have, k8tymem8ty. With the names of courses/colleges attended, and the professor/instructors, too.
 

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Wow, seems like someone is a lier and likes to feel important with people asking all those questions.
 

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Yeah I have a question! I have been in a lot of forum and everyone just ignore me ....
well I have an airedale terrier of 3 years.
a female very dominant , but she has been very well sociabilite.
I always bring her to my friends house for she ply with all kind of dogs.
In the street i always let her sniff teh other dogs and in the park I just let her free playing with others dogs.
But since she get their puppy's she just start to hate puppy's , but she turn extremely agressive with them .
a year ago they want to sold me a very good airedale puppy , i went saw all puppy's and teh father , and after had see everything I decied with one male very sociable but not at all dominant . For luck I asked the owner I could bring my dog to see how she react. so we make them meet in a park , and well my dog start pull the leash so like always I let her go see and snif the puppy , but she turn so agressive and try to bite him . So well I just preaferd to don't take it because if she turn so agressive in a neutral place with an opossite sex puppy it will had a lot of figth!and she a bit brutal.
After that we moved of country and our neigthboor have to wonderfull beagle puppy's ( female ) and well it's true the thwo provoque always my dog , but I don't found her reaccion is normal . he other day I wasn't home and she run away just because the beagles were passing , and she just bit one in the neck , for luck they were separate , but it's so strange because she never run away . well now we are more carefull with the door but anyway every time I go walk with her I have to lead with her if a puppy came near .
and she's a really stregth dog and like before I never had problems to control her I really don't know what to do ...
she never figth with any dog ...
Thnks hope you can give me an idea ...
I tried before to join her with an german sheaperd puppy that was already a bit big to defend himself and even they were a lot of time togheter in diferent palces she just always turn agressive and atack him ...
 

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Oh good heavens! Spray bottles, throwing scary things and laying the dog on it's side? (alpha rolls) Domination, intimidation and coersion? I don't think so.

And dangerous advice in the first thread. A shake can for a fear aggressive dog? Oiy.
Oh gee wiz. What a way to screw up a dog.

I guess I have to modify my previous post. It is great that you're here. Welcome to the forum. Truly. I hope you can learn some new ways to train where you don't have to use punishment to teach, but instead to use reinforcement and gentle, non-dominating methods...so much easier on the dogs and so much more effective.
 

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Oh sorry Skaa. I was still typing my post when yours must have gotten posted. Well, if you like, I'll leave the advice up to the professional trainer since you are responding to this thread which was started by the professional trainer.

However, if you'd like ideas from the rest of us, hang in there. I'm sure someone will have more ideas too. I'll throw in my idea too.

It sounds to me that your dog needs to be controlled when around puppies. That could be dangerous if she bites a small dog too hard....really serious.

It could be a prey response instead of the more typical tolerance of puppies from older dogs. I couldn't really say. But some kind of counter conditioning probably needs to take place where your dog sees a puppy from a distance and while she's calm and in control, but is also seeing the pup, she is given special treats and praised. Gradually you move closer. You can get someone to help you. They hold the pup on a leash and you hold your dog on a leash (make sure it's secure) and stand 50 ft or so away from eachother. Walk laterally (side to side) with your dog while that dog stays in place. As long as your dog is staying calm, give treats/praise. Move just a little closer and keep walking back and forth, side to side, not toward the pup. If your dog becomes agitated and reactive, you've gone too close too soon. Be careful not to reward if your dog gets reactive. This will take some practice and someone willing to help you.

Also try teaching your dog to pay attention to you on command. "Watch me." Take a treat and hold it in front of her nose and then bring it up to your face. As she follows with her eyes and looks at your face, give her the treat. Do this several times. Then, start saying her name and if she looks at you, say, "watch" or "watch me" and give her the treat quickly. Do it every day several times, but for just a few minutes. It can get boring. Do it in different locations and contexts. When she starts getting pretty good at it, try when she's not paying attention, but in a low distraction area.

Around the puppies, if you get nervous, tense, excitable or punishing, all these kinds of emotions can influence your dog highly. She will see that her leader is upset and will become more uneasy. You want to portray a very in control owner who is calm and not one bit concerned about the other dog....like it's not a big problem at all. Act very confident. Dogs really sense our moods. And associate the puppy with good things....treats, fun, happy voice etc. But if she's lunging or snarling, don't reward or try to calm her. Soothing her and talking to her will be like a reward for that unwanted behavior. Just give treats and talk when she's being calm.

Anyhow...this may not be a cure-all and you may need some better, "hands on" help. These things aren't always easy or quick.

Maybe someone else will come along and give you some ideas. But I caution you against using punishment tactics or stern corrections, as these are known to often agitate a dog even more and make them associate the thing they're reacting to (the puppies) with aversives or fear. If the dog fears being punished everytime a puppy is around, he's going to have a mal-adjusted outlook on puppies. You want to make him "like" puppies.
 
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Doberluv said:
Oh good heavens! Spray bottles, throwing scary things and laying the dog on it's side? (alpha rolls) Domination, intimidation and coersion? I don't think so.

Oh gee wiz. What a way to screw up a dog.
Thats how Paws with a Cause trains their dogs, and obviously their dogs aren't screwed up( although I do NOT agree with their training). My aunt was instructed to throw a can full with rocks at Tony (her service dog) if he did something wrong, and they suggested the spray bottle too.
 

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Oh my. And I've just started reading... staffs are 'nasty little buggers', are they? :mad:

And dangerous advice in the first thread. A shake can for a fear aggressive dog? Oiy.

I'd LOVE to see the credentials you have, k8tymem8ty. With the names of courses/colleges attended, and the professor/instructors, too.

Well i gota say to that courses???? the only courses around are 2 hour things by lil nobodys its hardly needed.
 

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You'll get a lot further with a dog if he trusts his leader explicitly, if he is not made to be nervous and fearful of things being hurled at him. It's confusing and frightening to an animal, and unfair. Why don't people stop thinking dogs know "right from wrong?" And start thinking that maybe the dog doesn't know something because they're not training them to have a reliable response by giving a sufficient history of reinforcers for a response to a cue. People don't want to spend time training and then blame the dog for doing something "morally wrong."

I don't care if the dog is not a neurotic mess. But everytime someone mistreats a dog, that's one more piece of trust taken away. Making a dog do something or not do something in order to avoid punishment and by way of intimidation.... instead of living and working to earn reward and praise is a sad thing. IMO. Especially when it is not needed.
 

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skaa9 said:
Yeah I have a question! I have been in a lot of forum and everyone just ignore me ....
well I have an airedale terrier of 3 years.
a female very dominant , but she has been very well sociabilite.
I always bring her to my friends house for she ply with all kind of dogs.
In the street i always let her sniff teh other dogs and in the park I just let her free playing with others dogs.
But since she get their puppy's she just start to hate puppy's , but she turn extremely agressive with them .
a year ago they want to sold me a very good airedale puppy , i went saw all puppy's and teh father , and after had see everything I decied with one male very sociable but not at all dominant . For luck I asked the owner I could bring my dog to see how she react. so we make them meet in a park , and well my dog start pull the leash so like always I let her go see and snif the puppy , but she turn so agressive and try to bite him . So well I just preaferd to don't take it because if she turn so agressive in a neutral place with an opossite sex puppy it will had a lot of figth!and she a bit brutal.
After that we moved of country and our neigthboor have to wonderfull beagle puppy's ( female ) and well it's true the thwo provoque always my dog , but I don't found her reaccion is normal . he other day I wasn't home and she run away just because the beagles were passing , and she just bit one in the neck , for luck they were separate , but it's so strange because she never run away . well now we are more carefull with the door but anyway every time I go walk with her I have to lead with her if a puppy came near .
and she's a really stregth dog and like before I never had problems to control her I really don't know what to do ...
she never figth with any dog ...
Thnks hope you can give me an idea ...
I tried before to join her with an german sheaperd puppy that was already a bit big to defend himself and even they were a lot of time togheter in diferent palces she just always turn agressive and atack him ...

You would likely get more help if you were to post this in a brand new thread. Alot of people skim past things if the title doesn't grab them. Post something with HELP in the title.
 

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Well i gota say to that courses???? the only courses around are 2 hour things by lil nobodys its hardly needed.
Well, I'm not refering to a 2 hour course that says you'll be a pro at the end of it. Sometimes, really good trainers will offer a specific short course on a particular issue. You could get a full day or a weekend course on just heeling for example.
 

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You would likely get more help if you were to post this in a brand new thread. Alot of people skim past things if the title doesn't grab them. Post something with HELP in the title.
Ok rottnpagan i will see . if after using doberluv tips she don't change at all i think I will do it!
THNKS doberluv I just starting today learning her to watch and unfortunatly any puppy come off today . But I'm really on in that I really now that is important to take this agression off from her , it's really dangereous.
Thnks so much and I think you are rigth perhaps she just feel that I turn tense when I saw a puppy ( because I;m always seing if there's no around to take her far away).
well I will told you how stuffs go =OP
 

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You'll get a lot further with a dog if he trusts his leader explicitly, if he is not made to be nervous and fearful of things being hurled at him. It's confusing and frightening to an animal, and unfair. Why don't people stop thinking dogs know "right from wrong?" And start thinking that maybe the dog doesn't know something because they're not training them to have a reliable response by giving a sufficient history of reinforcers for a response to a cue. People don't want to spend time training and then blame the dog for doing something "morally wrong."

I don't care if the dog is not a neurotic mess. But everytime someone mistreats a dog, that's one more piece of trust taken away. Making a dog do something or not do something in order to avoid punishment and by way of intimidation.... instead of living and working to earn reward and praise is a sad thing. IMO. Especially when it is not needed.
Very well said
 

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