I have arthritis in my neck, along with a birth defect to add to no jaw joints and the need for another surgery I am not going to get. So you would think it would hurt. But he keeps his weight fully on my shoulders when we are up right, and honestly his laying across there kind of feels really good, when he is not scalping me. He has done super good with the babies here. And shows himself to be a most forgiving kind of guy for one time of a too hard tail pull that won't happen again. The guilty offender is really weaally sorry.