Help me find a breed please

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I really don't think you've decided yet.....take your time. This is a long time love commitment . Actually longer from what I read than marriage commitments !!!!
 
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Sorry...

That was a very harsh thing to say. Especially since my ex and I are very best friends. I guess it's just a wake up call that picking a pet and taking care of them is as serioous as adopting a child. There is SO MUCH that needs to be taken into consideration. I wish there were laws and tests for people to pass before they can get a human or an animal...
 

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Glad you set that straight ! Unfortunately it's trial and error for both at this point.
 

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I don't know much about this breed but I think Akita's are gorgeous. I've read that you should read into them. They seem to need an experienced owner though which you aren't?
 

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I have to admit that the only dogs mentioned here, that I like the looks on, is the Dutch Shepherd, German Shepherd, Saarloos Wolfhound, and Siberian Husky.

I have read this about the Dutch Shepherd: Dutch Shepherd info . I wonder what the difference is between this and the German Shepherd?

My experience with dog are not very good. I have worked with different breeds for a short time though, but have never had my own dog. Ironically I am the person who knows most about how to treat dogs, read their "language", and all that, of almost all the dog owners I have met. Unfortunately that don't mean much considered that those dog owners were fools. I don't think my lag of experience will be that big a problem Saje.
 
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the main differences between the dutch shepherd and the german shepherd is that a large dutch is about 65 pounds. a large gsd is 85-90 pounds (strider is 95 and acceptable for shows). also the dutch shepherd is brindle, a color that hasnt been found in the purebred gsd for quite some time. they are not very different. they do come in long and short and wire-haired coats (also one I dont see on that site, long curly coat). they were mostly created through crossings of german shepherd with the belgian shepherds (malinois, groenedael, tervuren, laekenois). the wire haired (wolf hound looking type) coat came from the laekenois. the most common is the smooth coat. Ive only worked with one of these dogs, was a firecracker in protection, agility, and obedience. and I just might have to import one for myself someday soon.
they are bit more energetic than a gsd, and though anything is possible, I wouldnt recommend them to a beginner. any of you know how the malinois compares to the gsd? dutchs energy/drives are more similar to the malinois.
 

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Why wont you recommend the Dutch shepherd to a beginner? Will it require much more exercise than a German? To me, the Dutch sounds like an improved version of the German.
 
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physically its smaller. energy and drive are like a gsd on steroids or speed. the reason I want to get one eventually is because (from what I have heard, and the one I worked with) I consider them a challenge on the same level as the belgian malinois. if they dont have a serious job to do every day, most of the day, they are going to bounce off the walls and be uncontrollable. due to its high energy and extremely high drives it is not a breed for a first time owner. put it this way, the one I worked with was a search and rescue dog. everyday his owner would take him for a minimum of a 12 mile hike through everything from swamps to suburbs, training tracking for search and rescue. he brought the dog to me and I worked with it for 2 weeks. he had to sell the dog to someone who competes in advanced herding trials and trains hard everyday so it could get the proper mental and physical excercise. he now has a gsd for search and rescue.
 
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its possible that you could do great with one, its also possible that this one was overly hyper. I just recommend a lot of research before you get one.
 

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I think one more requirement or wish would be best to get out on the open as well.

When I said I want a companion, I partly meant that I don't want to make him a project, a slave, or a pet. I want a friend that I can be around, and have him like a traveling companion, and such. I don't intent to use those kinds of toys where the dog has to find a way to get the goody out of the box or anything like hiding his food or something so he can find it etc. Perhaps I will, but it's not something I'm planning on doing. I don't intent to give him a "job", like training him to be a herder. Perhaps I will, but it's not in my plan. I will however take him to training in the club for his breed, and with all that offers.

Is these things requirements for getting these dogs that is mentioned?
 
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Id go with the gsd. a lot of people give them a job but as long as you train them and excercise them they dont NEED a job.
 
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A German Shepherd really does sound like the best choice. It's not so much a job they need as it so to feel useful. I always tell mine, if I'm going somewhere and they can't come, to watch the house. It gives them something legitimate to do and they are proud of being useful.
 

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I had a feeling from the start that the German was the choice for me. But that breed is the most popular breed in my country, and since I like to be different, I was looking for an excuse for a different breed. But I'm most likely gonna feel different anyway. I just need to find one that is as black as they get. And medium long hair.
 

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These are more my taste of Shepherds.

Okay that last picture is a girl, but I like her looks. What line are they from do you think?
 
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top one is german working lines, thats what the top 2 I posted (german working lines)will look like when full grown. the 2nd one you posted is german show, probably a lot of american show lines judging by his rear legs and rear end. the bottom one is a mix of lines, judging by the bone structure and head size/shape.
heres more german working line dogs


 

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