Dog Fighting Ring Found On Atlanta Falcons Quarterbacks Property

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SURRY, Va. -- The Surry County property in Virginia belonging to Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick was put on the market and is already under contract to a buyer, according to Long & Foster real estate.
The two-story brick house on Moonlight Road, which was recently raided for narcotics and is at the center of dogfighting allegations, was put up for sale on Wednesday and found a buyer the same day, Long & Foster agent John Brooks said.
Vick had asked $350,000 for the property. It is assessed at $747,000. Brooks would not provide the final sale price for the house.
Last month, police raided the house as part of a narcotics investigation and found 66 pit bull terriers and beagles, some of which were heavily scarred.
Vick does not live at the house and has attempted to distance himself from the allegations. It's the home of his cousin, Davon Boddie.
 

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Sorry Amstaffer, what you just posted can not even be considered as proof of any sort. He said that he said=heresay. .
Actually if Buchanan were to testify to things he knows directly or has witnessed it isn't hearsay. He would be an actual witness to a felony, many people have been convicted of murder based on this kind of "proof".

If it is just reporter babble then yes it is hearsay but Buchanan is a player with a pretty credible reputation.

I never said it was proof I said another finger points to Vick's guilt. If you see enough smoke there is a good chance there is or was a fire......
 

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More evidence...

http://www.wvec.com/news/topstories/stories/wvec_local_051407_vick.6c10df24.html


Two sources in law enforcement tell WVEC in Virginia that Michael Vick was an active participant in dog fighting at his house in Surry County.
Police claim they found documents at the compound that "absolutely link Vick to the dog-fighting operation." Investigators have interviewed multiple people that say they witnessed Vick at dog fights. Virginia police are frustrated that district attorney Gerald Poindexter isn't pressing the issue.
Source: WVEC Virginia
 

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Goodell said, "I was very clear with Michael. In my mind, that is your responsibility. People living in your house and people on your property is your responsibility.''
Precisely. I disagree with you, Drycreek... If evidence of dogfighting is found on his property, the property he legally owns, then he is at fault regardless. It doesn't matter to me (and shouldn't matter to the law) whether or not he "knew" about it... He really seems like a dirtbag from what I've read. :( It doesn't matter how small your intellect and great your athletic ability, you aren't exempt from the rules.
 
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The lead investigator in the case of dog-fighting accusations against Atlanta quarterback Michael Vick said Monday that she believes there is substantial evidence to eventually tie Vick directly to the felony crime.

That evidence could eventually include videotapes of Vick at matches. Kathy Strouse, the Animal Control coordinator for the City of Chesapeake in Virginia, said Monday that she has received a tip from what is described as a "reliable source" that tapes of Vick exist that would tie him directly to the burgeoning scandal and a possible felony charge.

"We don't know where (the tapes) are or if they do indeed exist, but I have been told that they are out there," said Strouse, who is also affiliated with two other organizations involved in the welfare of animals. "Without knowing where they are, there's no possibility of getting a search warrant at this point."

Strouse said she has also talked with individuals who can "put Vick on that property" during matches. However, those individuals have been reluctant to testify at this point, leaving much of the evidence against Vick that has become public at this point as circumstantial.

Last month, Vick's residence in Smithfield, Va., was raided and dog-fighting paraphernalia was confiscated. Vick initially denied any knowledge of the situation, blaming family and friends for the operation. However, Vick declined to comment on the advice of attorneys when approached at the Falcons' mini-camp over the weekend.

Regardless, Strouse said she is "very confident" about eventually tying Vick directly to the dog fighting based on the evidence she and other investigators have gathered. The information has come after years of talk throughout the Newport News area where Vick grew up that he has been involved in dog fighting.

For her part, Strouse was not backing down and essentially challenged Surry County Commonwealth attorney Gerald Poindexter to charge Vick. Last week, Poindexter made statements indicating he was reluctant to charge anyone with dog fighting.

"He was at the home and saw the equipment that we seized," Strouse said of Poindexter. "When we were there, he said he had enough right there to issue an indictment. He didn't say who he would indict, but he said he had enough.

"Now, with what he has said, it makes you think, 'What in the world is going on in Surry County?' This certainly doesn't make me feel warm and fuzzy about the Surry County attorney," Strouse said.

Poindexter did not return a call from Yahoo! Sports on Monday.

Dog fighting is a felony in 48 states and is a misdemeanor in Idaho and Wyoming. In Virginia, a conviction can carry up to five years in prison and/or a fine of up to $2,500, Strouse said.

Before the NFL draft in late April, Vick met with NFL commissioner Roger Goodell to discuss the situation. In addition, Falcons owner Arthur Blank has expressed growing concern with the investigation.

Earlier this offseason, the Falcons traded backup Matt Schaub to the Houston Texans and later signed veteran Joey Harrington to be Vick's primary backup. However, Harrington is not seen as a long-term solution.

On Friday, Vick politely told a group of approximately 30 reporters that he wasn't going to discuss the latest controversy and that the only thing on his mind was football.

"It is still under investigation, and once it is over, we will talk about it. As of right now, I cannot talk about the situation," Vick said. His lone departure from that was to say: "Don't plan on talking about me anymore unless it's about football."

While Vick's non-answer was predictable, it was also an interesting backtrack from only two weeks before. On April 27, the day before the draft, Vick was in New York to promote the NFL Quarterback Challenge. At the time, Vick was asked about the investigation in Virginia and disassociated himself from the house and the investigators' findings.

Vick's response was quickly refuted. According to several media outlets, neighbors said that Vick was seen in the area regularly and had even purchased materials such as syringes, which are often used in the training of dogs for fighting.

On Friday, NFL scout, one-time Yahoo! Sports analyst and current FOX Sports Radio host Chris Landry took it a step further during an interview on 620 WDAE in Tampa, Fla. Landry said that Ray Buchanan, a former Atlanta defensive back, told him that Vick has been involved in dog fighting for years.

"(Buchanan) tells me that Michael has been into this dog fighting for so long that … he not only knew about, he is behind all of it," Landry said. "He's paying for all of it … Apparently, he's into it big time."

Buchanan strongly denied saying any of that when contacted by Yahoo! Sports on Monday.

"I have to talk to Chris about all of that because I didn't say anything like that at all," Buchanan said. "If I was going to say any of that, I would have said it myself on my own radio program. I don't know anything about Michael being involved in any of that and I would not snitch on a player if I did. I'm a player's mouthpiece."

These developments led to conjecture about whether Vick will get in trouble with federal authorities and/or the NFL. Blank told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution last week that he is obviously concerned.

"From the facts we have so far, it's not a pretty picture. It's clearly an issue, and we'll wait to see what revolves around it," Blank said.
 

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On Friday, NFL scout, one-time Yahoo! Sports analyst and current FOX Sports Radio host Chris Landry took it a step further during an interview on 620 WDAE in Tampa, Fla. Landry said that Ray Buchanan, a former Atlanta defensive back, told him that Vick has been involved in dog fighting for years.

"(Buchanan) tells me that Michael has been into this dog fighting for so long that … he not only knew about, he is behind all of it," Landry said. "He's paying for all of it … Apparently, he's into it big time."

Buchanan strongly denied saying any of that when contacted by Yahoo! Sports on Monday.

"I have to talk to Chris about all of that because I didn't say anything like that at all," Buchanan said. "If I was going to say any of that, I would have said it myself on my own radio program. I don't know anything about Michael being involved in any of that and I would not snitch on a player if I did. I'm a player's mouthpiece."
My whole point is, you can NOT trust the media to be a reliable source of factual information. Whether or not they have actual evidence is more important than what people may say. A lot of the evidence "reported" to be factual may actually be circumstantial or a figment of the reporters imagination. I have not seen any actual evidence from the investigation and I doubt we'll see the disclosure of the case. If they come up with video tapes showing Vick at an actual "event" that is indisputable fact, but to rely upon journalists to present factual truths about anything is naive.

If we believe that the "news" is always correct, I might as well agree that all "Pit Bulls" are dangerous, snap at any moment and attack their owner time bombs.

If he is guilty, I hope he gets the book thrown at him, but, if he is not guilty? To bad so sad, your rep is ruined anyways.
 

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It seems that most people who know him pretty much accepted that he is a dog fighter. This is just one of "Ron Mexico's" dirty secrets.

Reporters are often the first to break stories about illegal activity that ends up true....no always true....but usually.

In this case, if I was a betting man, I would let it all ride on Vick being dirty!
 
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But again exceptions are made for " famous" or likable people.

I dont care if you are the Pres of the USA or a GOD you are into, back or promote dog battles in any way shape of form.

You are always will be SCUM and I wont have anything to do with you.
And if pushed I will finish what they start and bury them.

The dogs the animals should come FIRST friendship and politics of who is whom should NEVER come before the welfare of animals.

But so often does..

Well my rant for the day any way..
 

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http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-now-vickreamon,0,466714.story?track=mostemailedlink

Former coach defends Vick

High school coach Tommy Reamon says quarterback is "hurting real bad."

BY MIKE HOLTZCLAW
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May 18, 2007, 9:06 AM EDT

NEWPORT NEWS -- Michael Vick's former high school football coach says the Atlanta Falcons quarterback is "hurting real bad" and that the media should back off from the unfolding story surrounding allegations of dogfights at a home in Surry County that had been owned by Vick.

Tommy Reamon, who coached Vick at Warwick High School and currently coaches football at Gloucester High School, said he has been in regular contact with Vick.

"He's hurting real bad and trying to get through everything that's happening," Reamon said this morning. "The young man is innocent until proven guilty. He has said that he has not done these things, and I'm here to support him. But the media is trying to destroy him. It's not fair, but we know America."

On April 25, state police staged a drug raid on the Surry County property on Moonlight Road that was owned by Vick and occupied by his cousin, Davon Boddie. During the raid, officers found dozens of neglected and injured dogs and evidence that has led to an investigation of dogfighting on the property. Vick has subsequently sold the property.

On April 26, Vick told the Atlanta Jounal-Constitution: "I'm never at the house. I left the house with my family members and my cousin. They just haven't been doing the right thing. It's unfortunate that I have to take the heat."

He has not commented on the situation since then, citing the advice of his attorney.

No specific charges or allegations have been made against Vick, and Surry County commonwealth's attorney Gerald Poindexter has said that Vick will only be considered the property owner until evidence arises implicating him.

But Humane Society of the United States official John Godwin said the organization has been "hearing for years about Michael Vick being involved in dogfighting." Rumors have persisted that a videotape exists showing Vick attending a dogfight at the home, but lead investigator Kathy Strouse told the Daily Press: "Whether or not that exists, we don't know. Where it would be located, we don't know."

Reamon said Vick "is just hoping and praying to get this process on to clear him."

Surry County commonwealth's attorney Gerald Poindexter is scheduled to meet on Monday with Sheriff Harold Brown and investigators for the first time to review the evidence of dogfighting.
 
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People Are Crazy

ARE YOU ALL SERIOUS!
People kill me, I'm not going to go into detail about who... Anyway, people treat dogs better then they treat humans! For example, I'm from NC now I stay in Nebraska (military)...Its cold outside, the dog has a freakin coat and your daughter is wearing a skirt. You hate blacks and spanish people but you love dogs with all your heart, Ive seen that first hand. What since does this make.
Dogs have to live in the house its cruel to keep your dog outside due to weather....blablabla. Where did dogs stay before we made pets of them.
You wanna send this man to jail b/c he might roughhouse with HIS dogs sometimes! Get outa hear, people fight all kinda animals all the time- In Iraq soilders fight scorpions and camel spiders.

I love dogs too. Boxers are my favorite breed. And I love my dog. I dont even like the Falcons, so Im not taking up for Vick... I just believe some people need to get their priorities straight!!!!!!!!!!
 

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ARE YOU ALL SERIOUS!
People kill me, I'm not going to go into detail about who... Anyway, people treat dogs better then they treat humans! For example, I'm from NC now I stay in Nebraska (military)...Its cold outside, the dog has a freakin coat and your daughter is wearing a skirt. You hate blacks and spanish people but you love dogs with all your heart, Ive seen that first hand. What since does this make.
Dogs have to live in the house its cruel to keep your dog outside due to weather....blablabla. Where did dogs stay before we made pets of them.
You wanna send this man to jail b/c he might roughhouse with HIS dogs sometimes! Get outa hear, people fight all kinda animals all the time- In Iraq soilders fight scorpions and camel spiders.

I love dogs too. Boxers are my favorite breed. And I love my dog. I dont even like the Falcons, so Im not taking up for Vick... I just believe some people need to get their priorities straight!!!!!!!!!!
I believe you are a Troll (judging by your style and post count) but I will bite anyway.

Why can't we value Humans AND dogs? Why because someone some place has a "Shirt" on their little girl, does that mean people can't put a coat on their dog or have them live in the house.

You're from NC but in many places if you leave some breeds out side in winter or summer, the will die.... we have changed some breeds soooo much that they are dependent upon us for more shelter than mother nature intended.

Dog fighting is a lot more than "Get rough with your dog occasionally" (what ever that means). There are a bunch of threads here on Dog Fighting but if you think Dog fighting is ok or no big deal you will be small minority at this forum.

In my opinion animal abuse is one (small) step above child molesting. Why? Because you are harming and exploiting an innocent being that loves you. You are taking there love and twisting it for you entertainment and enjoyment....which means you (animal abuser- not you personally) are sick SOB. IMHO

Edit addition.... Just from a devil's advocate/logic point of view....Why are humans a higher "Priority"? Why are we sooo great?
 

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Dude, what?

You hate blacks and spanish people but you love dogs with all your heart, Ive seen that first hand.
Especially this part . . . what??! No, I don't hate black people or spanish people. Judging people by skin color or nationality is, well, pretty stupid.

I DO hate dog fighters ("rough houses" with his dogs, are you serious??) no matter what color their skin is.

Moving on, I would be pretty surprised if this guy wasn't guilty.

"He's hurting real bad and trying to get through everything that's happening," Reamon said this morning. "The young man is innocent until proven guilty. He has said that he has not done these things, and I'm here to support him. But the media is trying to destroy him. It's not fair, but we know America."
Yeah, people's friends and mom never believe they did it. We just had a sniper shooting here, the guy first killed his wife, then shot some people in a church, then shot himself. Then they have the quotes from stunned people who can't believe it, he was such a nice guy, etc.
 
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Boemy and Amstaffer

When I was talking about the racist people (that was just a personal incident that I had with some neighbors of mind, not people in general). Im sorry I really did not mean it the way it sounded.
As far as viewing humans as a "priority" yes I do. HUMANS ARE DIFFERENT. HUMANS ARE MADE IN GODS IMAGE! Dogs are not. What makes a dog different then any other animal. Do you catch spiders in your house and release them or do you kill them? Dogs are dogs, they're animals. I wouldn't fight my dog and I don't believe its a good thing to do. Thats not my issue. My issue is when u got people being as mean and rude as they wanna be to other people and they treat animals better they have some mental issues. And I have seen that a lot since I have been in the midwest.
As far as his innocence or guilt:
I doubt he is innocent- I just don't think he should go to prison for it. (i doubt he will though, u can buy your way out of anything in our legal system)
 

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As far as viewing humans as a "priority" yes I do. HUMANS ARE DIFFERENT. HUMANS ARE MADE IN GODS IMAGE! Dogs are not. What makes a dog different then any other animal.
Maybe in Image (not content) but many humans are as far from godly as possible by definition (of godly) . Humans are unrivaled in propensity for evil.

Do you catch spiders in your house and release them or do you kill them?
Actually I do. Spiders are valuable to the ecosystem....I guess I have mental problem. Humans are so arrogant in our importance it just floors me. I am Christian and pray often, but I hate the fact that religion is used to make humans so arrogant that it some how justifies animal abuse. I believe Jesus would not condone the abuse of animals.

My issue is when u got people being as mean and rude as they wanna be to other people and they treat animals better they have some mental issues.
The issues you are talking about are logically unrelated. Treating humans rudely is bad...that is one issue. People treating animals well...is good...that is a separate issue.

We should look for ways to improve the treatment of both humans and animals and should not put a ceiling on the treatment of animals based on the treatment of humans.
 

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I also release spiders. They're useful and catch insects. I've picked up many spiders and have never once been bitten.

I completely agree with Amstaffer. You're acting like someone can choose to be nice to animals OR nice to people but not both. In reality, people can AND SHOULD choose to be nice to both people and animals. If some people are cruel to other people, it doesn't follow that it's okay to be cruel towards dogs. People should not be cruel towards humans OR dogs.
 

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