Buddy...wouldn't he be a wonderful dog for the White House!!

[scarediecat++]

We are starting a friendly petition for president Obama to adopt a dog from the pound that is about to be euthanized. Because President Obama is always saying he is “the common man†he should keep that theme going in every aspect. For example, he also says he is for the underdog, why doesn't he rescue a dog (to live with him and his family in the White House) rather than do what every other President in the White House has done and buy and over priced pure breed dog. If he would rescue a dog he would send a much needed message that breeding is adding to the over population of dogs in the US. Visit a dog pound and see all the pure bread dogs in there that are to be euthanized. If a 5 year ban were passed to stop breeding of any kind of dog that would give us who rescue dogs a chance to catch up with those who breed dogs for money. I have a wonderful pure white American Eskimo mix that I rescued from Fort Campbell Animal Shelter 2 days before he was to be euthanized. I would love to donate him to the President and his family. Email the White House today suggesting that if the President would adopt a “pound dog†it would be a wonderful show of support for animal rescue. (To see a photo of Buddy go to blogspot.com Scarediecat's blog

 

[PoodleMommy]

opcorn:

A 5 year ban on breeding?!

And an American Eskimo for a man whose daughter is allergic... sounds like a perfect rehoming situation now wouldnt that be a great message to send?

 

[RedyreRottweilers]

Nice way to try to sugar coat your AR non breeding/eliminate purebred dogs agenda. A 5 year breeding moratorium would eliminate or precipitously reduce many pure bred gene pools to the point of effectively eliminating large numbers of breeds.

But that is the goal, isn't it?

 

[scarediecat++]

hhhmmmm...must be talking to dog breeders Good thing we all love dogs on this forum and only have their best interest at heart. The point is if he did adopt it would go with his "different approach" rather than the ol' way of doing things...Plus...it would open the public's eyes to the over population of dogs in the US. You have to agree with that at least???

And an American Eskimo for a man whose daughter is allergic...
If she is allergic then I guess there won't be any dog in the White House. Remember he is a mix...he sheds very little - even with that coat. No dog is completely dander free!

 

[scarediecat++]

and I most certainly don't want to eliminate "non breeding or even eliminate purebred dogs". I have one myself. I go into pounds and rescue..and boy you should see the purebred dogs in there every week!!

 

[ACooper]

There are many here with dogs from responsible breeders and HUNDREDS with dogs saved from pounds and rescues.

If you intend to convince us the only way President Obama can set a good example is adopting from a pound.........you've come to the wrong forum.

Furthermore, how do you know an Eskimo mix will fit into THEIR needs and life? An Eskimo (mix or otherwise) wouldn't fit into most of the lives of the people I know. THAT is what is important when looking for a dog. You must consider the DOGS needs AND what you are able to do about them.

 

[PoodleMommy]

His daughter is allergic, he has stated this numerous times... he is attempting to find a hypoallergenic dog in order to allow his daughters to have a dog and not risk her health at the same time... shame on him! He should be more concerned about his image with the american people then his daughters health.

I am not a breeder, never intend to be... however, YOU most certainly do not know anything about me or my lifestyle or the reasons I chose to get dogs from breeders and not a rescue. YOU dont know anything about anyone here because you are a TROLL... someone who joins a forum with the intention of stirring the pot. I suggest you find a new place to post because this is NOT going to be the place for you.

 

[scarediecat++]

Ooookkkk, so I can't voice my opinion but you can about your pet peeves? Would it help if I eliminate the statement “put a ban on breeding of ANY KIND” from my statement??? It seems to me only dog breeders get so MEAN when you broach the subject of dog over population in the US. What would your answer be? How would you suggest we stop having thousands of dogs put to sleep needlessly each week?

 

[PoodleMommy]

Aww... thats cute... you havent seen mean yet... and honestly, if you want to believe I am a breeder, thats fine....

Lets see, seems to me that it isnt responsible breeders, but mills that are churning out the endless stream of dogs... and its not people like me who get dogs and keep them for a LIFETIME contributing to the shelter crowding but people who buy a new dog every few years when the old one isnt cute or playful anymore.

your turn...


:: playing with trolls is fun::

 

[ACooper]

Nobody is telling you that you can't "voice" your oppinion

We don't have to agree with them, and we can also "voice" our oppinions.........

Responsible breeders DO NOT cause pet over population.

Now, if you want to show us how to work against puppy mills and BYBs.........we are right there with you.

 

[scarediecat++]

Furthermore, how do you know an Eskimo mix will fit into THEIR needs and life? An Eskimo (mix or otherwise) wouldn't fit into most of the lives of the people I know. THAT is what is important when looking for a dog. You must consider the DOGS needs AND what you are able to do about them.

We aren't sure what kind of dog he is...he looks like and Eskimo Mix...he acts like a "lab" Anyone who takes a dog into their home has the same trial of "getting to know the dog"...so any dog will take time to get to know. Why would you suggest this dog is no good for them when YOU don't know anything about him? I have had him for 10 days. Would you like me to tell you something about this wonderful dog?

Also, a 5 year ban on breeding WOULD NOT eliminate any breed line. Most good breeders put their bitch to rest for at least a year or two before re-breeding her (or they should if they truly care for the dog and not the money). Let's reduce that 5 year ban to a 2 year ban...would that work or is that still too much to sacrifice for saving the lives of thousands of throw away dogs?

 

[RedyreRottweilers]

Do you think you would come to a forum as large as this and not find breeders? The problem is with people who breed dogs without the right preparation and sell dogs to the wrong homes without contracts and followup.

However, in this day of harassment and scrutiny of all breeders, the anti dog climate globally, and the incessant barrage of legislation designed to restrict and/or eliminate breeding or certain breeds, I support the rights of ALL BREEDERS.

Period.

 

[Miakoda]

Putting the wrong breed of dog into such a televised family is only going to be a disaster and provide negative publicity to the breed in question.

I cannot imagine, you being such an expert in rescues, that you would even fathom to attempt to just throw any ol' dog into any ol' situation. The best way to a successful adoption is to match the appropriate dog to the appropriate home. The best way to have a dog dumped back into the shelter is to place it into a home where it does not match the lifestyle of the family.

And it's not solely the breeders responsible for the problem of dogs in shelters. Reputable, responsible breeders do NOT contribute to that "crisis" and those are the types of breeders that member of chazhound stand behind. It's the back yard breeders, the owners who chose not to potty train their dogs the right way so they dumped the dog at the shelter for peeing on the floor, it's the owners who decide their dog no longer matches the furniture, it's the owners who allow their dogs to roam loose, it's the owners who have bleeding hearts that make excuses for dogs with unstable temperaments to the point where that dog finally bites someone (or someone a 2nd/3rd time)..........THOSE are the people who are responsible for the dogs found in the shelters. And if you stick around, you would see that the chazhound members do their best to educate and fight against these types of pet owners.

 

[scarediecat++]

PoodleMommy...you are taking this wwaayyy too personal. Why?

Responsible dog breeders don't spit out pups like puppy mills...so why would they mind helping the over population of dogs by not breeding for a couple of years? It isn't just puppy mills we are fighting against in our organization, it's back yard breeders and every day regular people that get 2 low quality dogs (pure breed) and see dollar signs. If President Obama would make such a dramatic statement by taking a "pound" dog ...THOSE kind of people would see the message in a larger way than we small individual groups could every announce to the world.

 

[Miakoda]

he acts like a "lab"

I'm about to blow your mind here:

Not everyone likes Labs. I don't. I won't ever own a Lab. And I know many others on Chazhound feel the same way. So to say it "acts like a Lab" as some kind of justification that means the Obamas would love the dog is incorrect.

Their child needs a short hair breed that has an easy coat upkeep. And their activity level needs to be taken into consideration as well.

................or else the dog will end up right back where it started from.

 

[Miakoda]

PoodleMommy...you are taking this wwaayyy too personal. Why?

Responsible dog breeders don't spit out pups like puppy mills...so why would they mind helping the over population of dogs by not breeding for a couple of years? It isn't just puppy mills we are fighting against in our organization, it's back yard breeders and every day regular people that get 2 low quality dogs (pure breed) and see dollar signs. If President Obama would make such a dramatic statement by taking a "pound" dog ...THOSE kind of people would see the message in a larger way than we small individual groups could every announce to the world.

But here's the thing with that. You're wanting the resonsible breeders to stop breeding, but do you honestly think the bybs of America are going to stop? Hell no.

By having the reputable, responsible breeders put a halt to breeding the only thing you are going to do is flood the canine population with even more poorly bred dogs that suffer from horrible musculoskeletal defects and even more horrible temperaments. And then you're going to demand that the general public "open their hearts" to take in these dogs that are only going to cost them a fortune in vet bills and put many more people's wellbeing at stake due to the increase of aggressive, fear aggressive, and generally unstable dogs out there in homes that do not need to own such an animal (although the only "home" for such an animal IMO is a dirt one).

This is just way to similar to BSL, which I'm going to wonder if you are also in favor of that.

It's like asking all the responsible 'pit bull' owners to just get rid of their dogs and not own them for a while so people will feel safe again and people won't be bitten by dogs any longer, yet BSL doesn't solve a **** thing. Because it's not the responsible people that are the cause of dogs biting other or dogs running loose to cause havoc. It's the irrepsonsible owners and since they already are not obeying the laws, they aren't going to abide by BSL and chances are any type of dog they own will be a nuisance and a threat to the general public.

So quit going after those who are not responsible for the mess and go after those who are. This is nothing more than playing politics that will provide the faster opportunity to give oneself a pat on the back for a job well done. And all the while the problem is only getting worse and worse because those actually responsible for it are continuing on.

 

[ACooper]

Furthermore, how do you know an Eskimo mix will fit into THEIR needs and life? An Eskimo (mix or otherwise) wouldn't fit into most of the lives of the people I know. THAT is what is important when looking for a dog. You must consider the DOGS needs AND what you are able to do about them.

We aren't sure what kind of dog he is...he looks like and Eskimo Mix...he acts like a "lab" Anyone who takes a dog into their home has the same trial of "getting to know the dog"...so any dog will take time to get to know. Why would you suggest this dog is no good for them when YOU don't know anything about him? I have had him for 10 days. Would you like me to tell you something about this wonderful dog?

Also, a 5 year ban on breeding WOULD NOT eliminate any breed line. Most good breeders put their bitch to rest for at least a year or two before re-breeding her (or they should if they truly care for the dog and not the money). Let's reduce that 5 year ban to a 2 year ban...would that work or is that still too much to sacrifice for saving the lives of thousands of throw away dogs?

First of all, I did NOT say this dog is no good for them. I asked YOU how YOU knew that he would fit into THEIR lives. You have met HIM..........but have you met THEM? Have you talked with THEM and know what they are looking for and NEED in a family dog? Do you know what they EXPECT in a dog?

Buddy could be the bestest most cutest dog in the wide world.........I have never met him, but then again I have never met the Obamas either and haven't a clue of what they have time for, are willing to do as far as grooming, or the extent of the allergies of his daughter. I would say that is ALL for THEM to decide.

Getting a pet is a PERSONAL choice and one that should NOT be made for you by ANYONE. PERIOD.

I think it would be pretty low to pressure ANYONE........famous or not, into getting a pet that they do not pick for themselves.

 

[PoodleMommy]

PoodleMommy...you are taking this wwaayyy too personal. Why?

Responsible dog breeders don't spit out pups like puppy mills...so why would they mind helping the over population of dogs by not breeding for a couple of years? It isn't just puppy mills we are fighting against in our organization, it's back yard breeders and every day regular people that get 2 low quality dogs (pure breed) and see dollar signs. If President Obama would make such a dramatic statement by taking a "pound" dog ...THOSE kind of people would see the message in a larger way than we small individual groups could every announce to the world.

because I am a breeder, remember?!

Responsible breedres are working hard to perfect their lines and keep them going why would they want to jeopardize that? because of OTHER irresponsible people? because of people like you pushing their AR garbage? I dont think so. If responsible breeders stopped for 2 years it would do NOTHING BUT HURT THEM.... remember they arent the ones causing the problems.

And... many rescues in their twisted world PROMOTE breeders... they turn away people who would provide good homes and lead them right into the arms of BYB's and pet stores.... maybe rescues need to stop pointing the finger... because remember when you point a finger at someone four more are pointing right back at you.

 

[Miakoda]

hey turn away people who would provide good homes and lead them right into the arms of BYB's and pet stores...

Not trying to go off-topic here, but my younger brother and his family just tried to adopt a GSD/Lab mix from the shelter and the shelter wanted a $350 adoption fee...for an 8 week old puppy that has only had a single set of shots. Seriously, you can get a purebred either one of the breeds from a byb for much, much less.

 

[scarediecat++]

Buddy is only one choice of "rescued" dogs to choose from. Why are you ignoring the "meaning" of the first statement which is..."wouldn't it be nice if President Obama would adopt a rescue dog". I do have to wonder why you are making this into an issue over certain breeds, do I hate RESPONSIBLE breeders (which I don't - I just simply WANT to at least reduce the dog population in the US so that throw away dogs will be a thing of the past), etc. The issue is - President Obama says he is a common man for the common man! What is more common than a "pound dog". It would fit into his "persona" that he is pitching to the public.

So what if you hate labs!! Who cares? I'm simply saying that he has the personality of a lab!! Which is usually lovable and loyal. I have a short hair dog - rescue - that I could recommend to them as well. As a matter of fact I have contacts to almost every kind of dog there is known to man that I could put them in contact with so they could choose a "rescue" and put out the word to everyone that "if you are thinking of getting a dog, why not a rescue".