breeds of dogs your scared of...
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Yup!!! Last time I checked I had the right to state my opinion as did Gaddy. And my opinion was that a few dogs do not represent the entire breed.
She has every right not to like them. But people are getting the wrong impression of the breed because of her comment makeing people believe that she is a credible source because she has encountered ENOUGH chows to make the assuption that they are all agressive.
Yup, I understand every word written, and I have the right to form my opinions on those posts. Its a public forum, not every one is going to agree. So get over it. I can form my own opinions of anything posted here. You don't like people opposing your opinions then don't post.
She has every right not to like them. But people are getting the wrong impression of the breed because of her comment makeing people believe that she is a credible source because she has encountered ENOUGH chows to make the assuption that they are all agressive.
Yup, I understand every word written, and I have the right to form my opinions on those posts. Its a public forum, not every one is going to agree. So get over it. I can form my own opinions of anything posted here. You don't like people opposing your opinions then don't post.
I dont think anybody has said that any particular breed is a bad breed or that they are right to be scared of the breed/s they are. We have already established that fear has no logic to it all. Surely everyone is entitled to be scared of something ? If you have had a bad experience with something it is bound to make you a little nervous the next time you encounter it, and if thats a bad experience aswell then fear will develop. You can be scared of something and not hate it 
As i said before someone was bound to take offence to this thread if their own breed got mentioned, but the key is to educate the people who are scared of that breed. The best people to do this are responsible dog owners. Arguing amogst eachother and telling them they are plain wrong will achieve nothing
As i said before someone was bound to take offence to this thread if their own breed got mentioned, but the key is to educate the people who are scared of that breed. The best people to do this are responsible dog owners. Arguing amogst eachother and telling them they are plain wrong will achieve nothing
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solidstaffs said:
I dont think anybody has said that any particular breed is a bad breed or that they are right to be scared of the breed/s they are. We have already established that fear has no logic to it all. Surely everyone is entitled to be scared of something ? If you have had a bad experience with something it is bound to make you a little nervous the next time you encounter it, and if thats a bad experience aswell then fear will develop. You can be scared of something and not hate it
As i said before someone was bound to take offence to this thread if their own breed got mentioned, but the key is to educate the people who are scared of that breed. The best people to do this are responsible dog owners. Arguing amogst eachother and telling them they are plain wrong will achieve nothing
As i said before someone was bound to take offence to this thread if their own breed got mentioned, but the key is to educate the people who are scared of that breed. The best people to do this are responsible dog owners. Arguing amogst eachother and telling them they are plain wrong will achieve nothing
Agreed. Thank you for being the "bigger" person here...
I love dogs, but I've always been scared of dogs of any size that are alone and loose in their yards or in the neighborhood if I'm riding a bike or walking. It was more common when I was a kid to let dogs run loose, and I learned which houses not to ride my bike past, or I would get chased. Sometimes, though, I would be riding down a street that I wasn't familiar with, or a dog was roaming a neighborhood unexpectedly. I can remember getting off my bike so they wouldn't chase me and walking with the bike between me and the dog, but I would almost be shaking by the time the dog lost interest in me. Size of dog didn't matter unless they were small enough that they couldn't reach my ankles when I was riding, or that I knew their legs were short enough that I could easily out run on a bike. As an adult, I haven't had this happen as much. Around here, most people don't let their dogs roam. The scariest thing I've probably had happen recently is taking my dog for a walk and having a large German Shepard-looking dog running down the drive and jumping my dog. My dog is 25 lbs. full-grown, but he was not full grown then. Fortunately, the owners were out there. In fact, I don't think he would have been free in the yard without them there, but they weren't able to stop him from jumping my puppy. They were able to pull him off, but the dog was in attack mode. Me and my puppy were traumatized. Needless to say, my dog has never been taken back down that road again!!
Ok, so the "Bull Breed" were bred origanally for fighting.
Just wanted to let you know that if my dog was inclined to attack another dog then i wouldn't have him running around the park without a lead/leash.
IMO i don't think that many people owning a potentially dangerous dog would allow it to be off-leash in a public area.
Although there is always the execption.
Just wanted to let you know that if my dog was inclined to attack another dog then i wouldn't have him running around the park without a lead/leash.
IMO i don't think that many people owning a potentially dangerous dog would allow it to be off-leash in a public area.
Although there is always the execption.
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solidstaffs said:
I dont think anybody has said that any particular breed is a bad breed or that they are right to be scared of the breed/s they are. We have already established that fear has no logic to it all. Surely everyone is entitled to be scared of something ? If you have had a bad experience with something it is bound to make you a little nervous the next time you encounter it, and if thats a bad experience aswell then fear will develop. You can be scared of something and not hate it
As i said before someone was bound to take offence to this thread if their own breed got mentioned, but the key is to educate the people who are scared of that breed. The best people to do this are responsible dog owners. Arguing amogst eachother and telling them they are plain wrong will achieve nothing
As i said before someone was bound to take offence to this thread if their own breed got mentioned, but the key is to educate the people who are scared of that breed. The best people to do this are responsible dog owners. Arguing amogst eachother and telling them they are plain wrong will achieve nothing
My own breed?? If you haven't noticed already my breed is the Doberman with the GSD right behind. Chows are not and probably will never be "my" breed, so I am not defending the breed but the whole point itself. The fact that you cannot generalize a breed because you've met, oh lets say 10 of dogs of that breed compared to millions in the world. Now thats logical,
.I have met many Dobermans who were agressive but I CAN'T say that I have met enough to make a general assumption of them because a SMALL % were aggressive.
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My own breed?? If you haven't noticed already my breed is the Doberman with the GSD right behind. Chows are not and probably will never be "my" breed, so I am not defending the breed but the whole point itself. The fact that you cannot generalize a breed because you've met, oh lets say 10 of dogs of that breed compared to millions in the world. Now thats logical, .
I have met many Dobermans who were agressive but I CAN'T say that I have met enough to make a general assumption of them because a SMALL % were aggressive.
.I have met many Dobermans who were agressive but I CAN'T say that I have met enough to make a general assumption of them because a SMALL % were aggressive.
This thread never asked what dogs do you think are aggressive, it asked what breeds are you scared of. As i already said you dont have to dislike something to be scared of it
Nobody has said anything that would be damning to ANY breed as far as i have sen, all they have done is express a fear. You could be terrified of heights without ever fallen from a building
Chill out.
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Define 'general' - applying to all or most members of a category or group
Why do I say that MOST Chows are aggressive? Because this is a breed that has a more aggressive personality - something that irresponsible people just love. These are not dogs (no dog is, actually, but especially not this breed) that can go to a home where they're chained up their entire lives and never socialized, and turn into wonderful, sweet animals. It's simply not possible.
As many intelligent people have pointed out I NEVER EVER said I think Chows are evil. In fact, I clearly stated that I DO NOT think they are evil animals, I simply do not like their GENERAL TEMPERAMENT, which is WARY and has a TENDENCY to be aggressive.
Get a grip.
Why do I say that MOST Chows are aggressive? Because this is a breed that has a more aggressive personality - something that irresponsible people just love. These are not dogs (no dog is, actually, but especially not this breed) that can go to a home where they're chained up their entire lives and never socialized, and turn into wonderful, sweet animals. It's simply not possible.
As many intelligent people have pointed out I NEVER EVER said I think Chows are evil. In fact, I clearly stated that I DO NOT think they are evil animals, I simply do not like their GENERAL TEMPERAMENT, which is WARY and has a TENDENCY to be aggressive.
Get a grip.
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This is such a lousy topic, in my opinion. It gives people the opportunity to bash a particular breed which is kind of sad. Basing opinions on a limited number of interactions isn't a logical thing to do, but evidently it's what many choose to do.
I've been bit by many dogs over the years. The breeds include dalmatian, Saint Bernard, Australian cattle dog, Australian shepherd, German shepherd, lab, border collie, husky type, jack russell terrier, various other small breeds, various mixed breeds. The worst bite I got was from a redbone coonhound with food issues.
But I don't dislike any of these breeds because I can see that it's generally a people problem, not a dog problem. Each dog should be assessed on its own merits and not grouped together because of a bad experience or two. This is like racism in the dog world.
As far as the discussion regarding chows .. I have three currently. All are very sweet and have never acted aggressive towards people or towards other dogs. My older chow has been attacked numerous times, though - by OTCH border collies (twice), labs (more than twice), a golden retriever (grabbed her HARD), a great Pyrenees type dog, various little dogs, a rottweiler, and once another chow. In every single incident, Kylee did not initiate the attack other than just walking by or glancing at the other dog. The stance of the chow, unfortunately, tends to be very upright with an upright (tightly curled tail) and Kylee has a very direct look, although it is not meant to be challenging. More than one of these dogs attacked her from the side or behind when she wasn't even looking at them.
She fought back when grabbed but as soon as they were separated she stopped. That's a solid temperament.
I've been to chow nationals twice. There were 300+ chows there, and I walked through the various dogs, stopping to greet and pet dozens, and I was never even growled at. Good breeders are breeding for temperament, good owners are working on keeping those temperaments sound. This goes for ALL breeds.
All three of my chows have visited the local nursing home, too, and will gladly accept handling by strangers. This is not a breed that is inherently mean, but it IS a breed that has what is considered an "aloofness" that is normal. Bad temperament is not an acceptable trait .. yes, there are some bad ones out there, but by the list of breeds I've been bit by I'd say there are bad ones in many many breeds.
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Kylee visiting at the nursing home
I've been bit by many dogs over the years. The breeds include dalmatian, Saint Bernard, Australian cattle dog, Australian shepherd, German shepherd, lab, border collie, husky type, jack russell terrier, various other small breeds, various mixed breeds. The worst bite I got was from a redbone coonhound with food issues.
But I don't dislike any of these breeds because I can see that it's generally a people problem, not a dog problem. Each dog should be assessed on its own merits and not grouped together because of a bad experience or two. This is like racism in the dog world.
As far as the discussion regarding chows .. I have three currently. All are very sweet and have never acted aggressive towards people or towards other dogs. My older chow has been attacked numerous times, though - by OTCH border collies (twice), labs (more than twice), a golden retriever (grabbed her HARD), a great Pyrenees type dog, various little dogs, a rottweiler, and once another chow. In every single incident, Kylee did not initiate the attack other than just walking by or glancing at the other dog. The stance of the chow, unfortunately, tends to be very upright with an upright (tightly curled tail) and Kylee has a very direct look, although it is not meant to be challenging. More than one of these dogs attacked her from the side or behind when she wasn't even looking at them.
She fought back when grabbed but as soon as they were separated she stopped. That's a solid temperament.
I've been to chow nationals twice. There were 300+ chows there, and I walked through the various dogs, stopping to greet and pet dozens, and I was never even growled at. Good breeders are breeding for temperament, good owners are working on keeping those temperaments sound. This goes for ALL breeds.
All three of my chows have visited the local nursing home, too, and will gladly accept handling by strangers. This is not a breed that is inherently mean, but it IS a breed that has what is considered an "aloofness" that is normal. Bad temperament is not an acceptable trait .. yes, there are some bad ones out there, but by the list of breeds I've been bit by I'd say there are bad ones in many many breeds.
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Kylee visiting at the nursing home
Then I've met a lot of exceptions. Of the three who really scared me (and came closest to actually killing my dogs), two were allowed to roam freely in their unfenced front yards in a small town. The third was a proven dog-killer left in the care of a 12-year-old boy who casually opened the door for a friend as the dog was launching itself in a rage at the front window because it could see my dog on the sidewalk outside. In all three cases, the owners knew the dogs were dangerous and yet left them uncontrolled.
And that's just the scariest cases. My dos and I have been chased, jumped, harassed and stalked by many dozens of less-dangerous but still aggressive loose dogs over the years, and I no longer believe that more than a tiny minority of dog owners has a clear idea of what their pet is really like. It's unpleasant to realize that your dog is aggressive or potentially dangerous. Many people persist in reading aggressive behavior as 'cute' or 'friendly' when it's anything but.
btw, I am speaking about all breeds. The bull and guardian breeds are clearly the most dangerous when aggressive, and I absolutely refuse to go near one if I have my dog with me and the dog seems under-controlled (ie, a flexilead, off-leash, or in an inadequately fenced yard). But any breed large enough to cause damage is bad news if it's loose and nasty. I had a bad experience with a Rough Collie last year, and I'm not real thrilled with the owner, who turned his two dogs loose and completely ignored his large male stalking and eye-f**ng my dog and me for several minutes.
And that's just the scariest cases. My dos and I have been chased, jumped, harassed and stalked by many dozens of less-dangerous but still aggressive loose dogs over the years, and I no longer believe that more than a tiny minority of dog owners has a clear idea of what their pet is really like. It's unpleasant to realize that your dog is aggressive or potentially dangerous. Many people persist in reading aggressive behavior as 'cute' or 'friendly' when it's anything but.
btw, I am speaking about all breeds. The bull and guardian breeds are clearly the most dangerous when aggressive, and I absolutely refuse to go near one if I have my dog with me and the dog seems under-controlled (ie, a flexilead, off-leash, or in an inadequately fenced yard). But any breed large enough to cause damage is bad news if it's loose and nasty. I had a bad experience with a Rough Collie last year, and I'm not real thrilled with the owner, who turned his two dogs loose and completely ignored his large male stalking and eye-f**ng my dog and me for several minutes.
solidstaffs said:
I will definatly be educating myself on the breed, the more i look at them the more i like them lol.
I came across this picture whilst having a look for some information on them.I really like the look of this dog
Is that your dog in your avatar ? He looks lovely
Sorry for being off topc
I came across this picture whilst having a look for some information on them.I really like the look of this dog
Is that your dog in your avatar ? He looks lovely
Sorry for being off topc
solidstaffs said:
Whooo, steady on. My post wasn't directed at you or anyone else in particular for that matter. It was a general point of view on what had been said
This thread never asked what dogs do you think are aggressive, it asked what breeds are you scared of. As i already said you dont have to dislike something to be scared of it
Nobody has said anything that would be damning to ANY breed as far as i have sen, all they have done is express a fear. You could be terrified of heights without ever fallen from a building
Chill out.
This thread never asked what dogs do you think are aggressive, it asked what breeds are you scared of. As i already said you dont have to dislike something to be scared of it
Nobody has said anything that would be damning to ANY breed as far as i have sen, all they have done is express a fear. You could be terrified of heights without ever fallen from a building
Chill out.
You stated that VERY well, especially the very last part.
This is a thread on "breeds of dogs you are scared of" Seems pretty cut and dry to me.
I can see arguing someone's fears if this was a thread on "Why you shouldn't have an irrational (or not) fear of these breeds of dogs".
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Actually it sounds like you're the one that needs to get a grip. You're throwing out "facts" that are not only NOT facts, they are based on a few interactions you've had and not based on reality.
The chow isn't a breed that has a tendency to be aggressive. ANY dog tied out in the back yard and left alone can be aggressive! I've seen golden retrievers ruined by that type of handling. The chow is not necessarily a dog that will climb into people's laps and smother them with kisses, but you are absolutely 100% wrong to say that the general temperament of the breed includes a tendency to be aggressive.
I've seen hundreds and hundreds of chows - not just a small handful, like you have - and I've seen only a very few with aggression problems. I've seen fewer chows with aggression problems than I have labs or Australian shepherds or terriers or poodles. It's an untruth to say the breed has a tendency towards aggression, and I do take offense to your blatant mis-truths.
You have a right to not like the breed, but you do NOT have a right to make statements that are not true. And that's what you're doing. You can say "in my limited experience chows have been aggressive" but you are doing way more than that. So please .. get a grip and realize that your experience with the breed has been very small, and that your knowledge base is extremely limited.
Everyone on here posting about dogs they don't like .. it's fine, don't like the breed, but please realize that your dislike of the breed does not mean that the breed *AS A WHOLE* is a bad breed. Just because you've met a few aggressive ones doesn't mean they're all that way - and doesn't even mean that there is a tendency in the breed to be that way. All it means is that you've run into a few dogs with bad owners.
Thankyouverymuch.
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The chow isn't a breed that has a tendency to be aggressive. ANY dog tied out in the back yard and left alone can be aggressive! I've seen golden retrievers ruined by that type of handling. The chow is not necessarily a dog that will climb into people's laps and smother them with kisses, but you are absolutely 100% wrong to say that the general temperament of the breed includes a tendency to be aggressive.
I've seen hundreds and hundreds of chows - not just a small handful, like you have - and I've seen only a very few with aggression problems. I've seen fewer chows with aggression problems than I have labs or Australian shepherds or terriers or poodles. It's an untruth to say the breed has a tendency towards aggression, and I do take offense to your blatant mis-truths.
You have a right to not like the breed, but you do NOT have a right to make statements that are not true. And that's what you're doing. You can say "in my limited experience chows have been aggressive" but you are doing way more than that. So please .. get a grip and realize that your experience with the breed has been very small, and that your knowledge base is extremely limited.
Everyone on here posting about dogs they don't like .. it's fine, don't like the breed, but please realize that your dislike of the breed does not mean that the breed *AS A WHOLE* is a bad breed. Just because you've met a few aggressive ones doesn't mean they're all that way - and doesn't even mean that there is a tendency in the breed to be that way. All it means is that you've run into a few dogs with bad owners.
Thankyouverymuch.
Melanie and the gang in Alaska