breeds of dogs your scared of...

[Buddy'sParents]

http://www.chowwelfare.com/cciw/sheltereval.htm

Like a cat, a Chow is.....

* proud, arrogant and aloof. He wants you to think he doesn't need you.
* suspicious of strangers. He can be slow to make new friends and can put on a fierce show when he's on his own ground.
* indifferent to people other than his friends. He could care less what strangers think of him and prefers to be left alone.
* not very eager to please his master. He especially doesn't like to obey commands from strangers.
* smart enough to figure out how to get out of doing what you want and clever enough to pretend he didn't hear you.
* stoic and expressionless. With their scowling face and deepset, dark eyes, it can be hard to know what they're thinking.
* very dignified. He doesn't like to be hit, manhandled, muzzled or physically forced into something he doesn't want to do.
* very clean, well-mannered in the house or kennel, almost born housebroken, non-destructive and quiet.
* very affectionate, loyal and loving with the people they love and trust. They never forget their friends.

http://www.canismajor.com/dog/chowchow.html#Temp

The scowling, sometimes wrinkled face, small deepset eyes, and lionlike ruff are intimidating. Some people complain that they can't "read" a Chow's expression as easily as other breeds'. The Chow's natural aloofness, dignity and indifference to people outside his family is often misinterpreted by people who expect most dogs to be outwardly friendly and affectionate. The Chow saves his affections for those he loves dearly and finds little reason to seek attention from anyone else. He minds his own business and simply doesn't care what other people think of him!

The strong-willed Chow needs an equally strong-willed owner. They have definite minds of their own and can easily become your master if you allow it. Chow puppies are naturally well-behaved, more so than most breeds. They're seldom destructive or disobedient. Because of their good behavior, many people fail to train them properly. When an untrained Chow reaches adolescence, that dreadful teenage stage all dogs go through, he may refuse to accept your authority. We've found that most people who've had behavior problems with their Chows failed to train them and earn their respect.

http://www.leerburg.com/chows.htm

Chows do, however, have a very different personality than other dogs. They are catlike in their attitudes: aloof, reserved with affection, independent, dignified and stubborn. Although their soft fur is
ripe for hugging, they don't always enjoy being fussed over by children or strangers. For people who want a cuddly lap dog that will instantly love all their friends, the Chow is likely to be a disappointment.

The Chow Chow is very intelligent but not always easy to train. They don't have the strong desire to please their masters as do breeds like the Golden Retriever. They seem to please themselves first and don't respond to the
average methods of training and motivation. They do not tolerate physical punishment and can't be forced into anything. Hitting or beating a Chow will either result in viciousness or a broken spirit. Like a cat, a Chow is
only willing to do what suits his mood at the time. He's an independent thinker and will make his own decisions if you don't stay a step ahead of him!

The strong-willed Chow needs an equally strong-willed owner. They have definite minds of their own and can easily become your master if you allow it. Chow puppies are naturally well-behaved, more so than most breeds.
They're seldom destructive or disobedient. Because of their good behavior, many people fail to train them properly. When an untrained Chow reaches adolescence, that dreadful teenage stage all dogs go through, he may refuse to accept your authority. We've found that most people who've had behavior problems with their Chows failed to train them and earn their respect.

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/chowchow.htm

The Chow Chow is usually well-mannered, but can be willful and protective. Bossy, serious and very independent. They are self-willed to the point of obstinacy. Often a one-person dog, very loyal to his family, though he may act reserved, even with them. If strangers push themselves on this dog, he may become aggressive. This very dominant breed requires a dominant owner. The owner of this breed of dog should be a calm person who is naturally fair and firm.

There, the chow chow is a great dog and everyone who is afraid of them should be ashamed of their fears because they've encountered bad owners or dogs from bad breeders

 

[Dobiegurl]

Actually it sounds like you're the one that needs to get a grip. You're throwing out "facts" that are not only NOT facts, they are based on a few interactions you've had and not based on reality.

The chow isn't a breed that has a tendency to be aggressive. ANY dog tied out in the back yard and left alone can be aggressive! I've seen golden retrievers ruined by that type of handling. The chow is not necessarily a dog that will climb into people's laps and smother them with kisses, but you are absolutely 100% wrong to say that the general temperament of the breed includes a tendency to be aggressive.

I've seen hundreds and hundreds of chows - not just a small handful, like you have - and I've seen only a very few with aggression problems. I've seen fewer chows with aggression problems than I have labs or Australian shepherds or terriers or poodles. It's an untruth to say the breed has a tendency towards aggression, and I do take offense to your blatant mis-truths.

You have a right to not like the breed, but you do NOT have a right to make statements that are not true. And that's what you're doing. You can say "in my limited experience chows have been aggressive" but you are doing way more than that. So please .. get a grip and realize that your experience with the breed has been very small, and that your knowledge base is extremely limited.

Everyone on here posting about dogs they don't like .. it's fine, don't like the breed, but please realize that your dislike of the breed does not mean that the breed *AS A WHOLE* is a bad breed. Just because you've met a few aggressive ones doesn't mean they're all that way - and doesn't even mean that there is a tendency in the breed to be that way. All it means is that you've run into a few dogs with bad owners.

Thankyouverymuch.

Melanie and the gang in Alaska

That is all I was trying to say. This person said that they met enough to make a general assumption and I expect this person to have interacted with more than half of the Chow population, then she comes back mentioning she only met, what, 10. Now thats enough to KNOW the breed .

You can dislike a breed, fear it, hate it, but making a bad name for that breed with these "facts" that you came up with is not right. YOU don't have to like it, but just because YOU have encoutered a FEW chows does not make ALL of them agressive, as you put it.

 

[Dobiegurl]

There, the chow chow is a great dog and everyone who is afraid of them should be ashamed of their fears because they've encountered bad owners or dogs from bad breeders

See, you guys are the ones getting rediculous. If you would READ what I am saying then you would have seen MANY times where I have written that you can fear whatever the hell you want, but a dog that you feel is agressive does not mean the general population of the breed IS agressive. There is a BIG difference between an opinion and a fact and Gaddy is not a credible source to base a FACT on the Chow breed for meeting oh lets say 10 Chows in the WHOLE WIDE WORLD.

 

[gaddylovesdogs]

Actually it sounds like you're the one that needs to get a grip. You're throwing out "facts" that are not only NOT facts, they are based on a few interactions you've had and not based on reality.

The chow isn't a breed that has a tendency to be aggressive. ANY dog tied out in the back yard and left alone can be aggressive! I've seen golden retrievers ruined by that type of handling. The chow is not necessarily a dog that will climb into people's laps and smother them with kisses, but you are absolutely 100% wrong to say that the general temperament of the breed includes a tendency to be aggressive.

I've seen hundreds and hundreds of chows - not just a small handful, like you have - and I've seen only a very few with aggression problems. I've seen fewer chows with aggression problems than I have labs or Australian shepherds or terriers or poodles. It's an untruth to say the breed has a tendency towards aggression, and I do take offense to your blatant mis-truths.

You have a right to not like the breed, but you do NOT have a right to make statements that are not true. And that's what you're doing. You can say "in my limited experience chows have been aggressive" but you are doing way more than that. So please .. get a grip and realize that your experience with the breed has been very small, and that your knowledge base is extremely limited.

Everyone on here posting about dogs they don't like .. it's fine, don't like the breed, but please realize that your dislike of the breed does not mean that the breed *AS A WHOLE* is a bad breed. Just because you've met a few aggressive ones doesn't mean they're all that way - and doesn't even mean that there is a tendency in the breed to be that way. All it means is that you've run into a few dogs with bad owners.

Thankyouverymuch.

Melanie and the gang in Alaska

Actually Dobiegurl (and it seems you, too) does need to get a grip. Whenever anyone disagrees with her she throws a hissy fit.
Oooohhh so I was dreaming that I was almost attacked? Gee, thanks for letting me know.

I already said any breed can be turned aggressive, however, IMO chows are naturally a more aggressive breed than say, a well-bred Labrador. They need an owner who will take the time to heavily train and socialize them.

You haven’t met very many aggressive chows? Well that’s nice. But I have. And I’ve almost been attacked.

I never said I think that all chows are aggressive. I stated that I think many chows are aggressive, because of their natural temperament and the fact that most chow owners you meet are not responsible with their dogs and they make their animals aggressive.

That is all I was trying to say. This person said that they met enough to make a general assumption and I expect this person to have interacted with more than half of the Chow population, then she comes back mentioning she only met, what, 10. Now thats enough to KNOW the breed .

You can dislike a breed, fear it, hate it, but making a bad name for that breed with these "facts" that you came up with is not right. YOU don't have to like it, but just because YOU have encoutered a FEW chows does not make ALL of them agressive, as you put it.

Dobiegurl, get a hold of your attitude. Seriously. Not everyone on this earth is going to agree with you – deal with it. It’s life.

You expected me to meet 50% of the world’s chows? Yeah, right…I’m going to travel the world to see if I get bit or not?

This thread is not called "Come here and get attacked because of your opinion!"

I am no longer going to waste my valuable time on you people. You can keep on blabbering all you want, but I certainly won't be reading it.

 

[tessa_s212]

People..

Must you argue so just to amuse yourselves? Because, I tell you, it is far from amusing. Annoying really. I was not the first to have to say it, but hopefully I will be the last. This thread is simply about what breed of dog you might be fearful of, whether it is just some weird fear, or one based on experiences. It is not about bashing breeds, and it should not have ever been about bashing others for their fears.

Toy poodles and Chis kind of scare me. Not that they'd cause too much damage,.. but I've met alot of poorly tempered, nippy ones. I just don't like getting bit. Big bite or not. Lol

 

[Dobiegurl]

Actually Dobiegurl (and it seems you, too) does need to get a grip. Whenever anyone disagrees with her she throws a hissy fit.

Actually I was stating my opinion and people opposed it so I am defending my OPINION. So I am not allowed to form an opinion but you are, give me a break, .

Oooohhh so I was dreaming that I was almost attacked? Gee, thanks for letting me know.

Who said that?? Read what people are writting before, here we go again (seems you have an issue with this) assuming things.

I already said any breed can be turned aggressive, however, IMO chows are naturally a more aggressive breed than say, a well-bred Labrador. They need an owner who will take the time to heavily train and socialize them.

Yes, YOUR OPINION. But when you say you have met enough to make it a fact that they are agressive is wrong.

You haven’t met very many aggressive chows? Well that’s nice. But I have. And I’ve almost been attacked.

Yes I've met ALOT of agressive DOGS, including Chows. Almost been attacked, eh? You sound like this has only happened to you. Try being attacked 7 times, from various breeds and been bitten many times.

I never said I think that all chows are aggressive. I stated that I think many chows are aggressive, because of their natural temperament and the fact that most chow owners you meet are not responsible with their dogs and they make their animals aggressive.

So now you THINK??? Earlier is was I KNOW they are agressive, make up your mind.

Dobiegurl, get a hold of your attitude. Seriously. Not everyone on this earth is going to agree with you – deal with it. It’s life.

Then why are you arguing. You don't agree with me, right? You are a walking controdiction. Anything you say can be turned around and make you the bad one.

You expected me to meet 50% of the world’s chows? Yeah, right…I’m going to travel the world to see if I get bit or not?

Oh I have an idea!!! Why don't you line up all the chows and walk by each one, and see how many times you can get bit. Thats sounds like fun.

This thread is not called "Come here and get attacked because of your opinion!"

Then why are you attacking ME for my opinion. Earlier you said you met enough to base a general assumption on the Chow.

I am no longer going to waste my valuable time on you people. You can keep on blabbering all you want, but I certainly won't be reading it.

Sounds good to me

 

[hageman_hi]

I'm scared of my friends pug. I'm afraid of it for some very good reasons...
1) safety of my lower leg...yep I'm afraid if that thing latches on to my lower leg one more time that it will rub my skin raw causing a deadly staph or strep skin infection that indeed...could be lethal!
2) the snot strike.... he comes up in your face and breathes and huffs and do to its impossibly smushed nose you get bullets of pure snot flying at you at 40 mph...it could be lethal!
3) the wet sock sneak attack...anyone with a puppy knows that those wet spots on the carpet are NOT a leaky roof, and say some of that "leak" enters a hangnail or wart on above said sock covered foot well you get my point...it could be lethal!


(ok in all reality I love that snot shooting, leg humping, peeing pug...but thank god its not MY dog!) lol

 

[Melissa_W]

Why don't you guys take your argument to pm?

 

[IliamnasQuest]

I never said I think that all chows are aggressive. I stated that I think many chows are aggressive, because of their natural temperament and the fact that most chow owners you meet are not responsible with their dogs and they make their animals aggressive.

These are YOUR WORDS:

"Why do I say that MOST Chows are aggressive? Because this is a breed that has a more aggressive personality "

"I simply do not like their GENERAL TEMPERAMENT, which is WARY and has a TENDENCY to be aggressive."

What bothers me, as I explained in my previous post, is that you are painting the breed overall with a broad brush just because of a few isolated encounters. I see you back-pedaling now, but you were saying some pretty blatant things about a breed that you truly know nothing about.

I don't have a problem with someone saying "I don't like this breed because I've been bit by one" (even though that logic is completely flawed too) ... but making assumptions about a breed as a whole just from a few experiences - and trying to state those assumptions as FACT - is something I do object to. My knowledge of this breed is extensive and my experience involves several HUNDRED chows, not just a few.

You use terms like "most chows" and "most chow owners" - and yet you base this on maybe ten total? Don't you find that your statements are a BIT overdone, even for someone with a prejudice towards a certain breed? Surely you can see the logic in what I'm saying!

There are thousands and thousands of very nice chows out there. There are more nice chows by far than aggressive ones. Good breeders are working to maintain the proper temperament. Yes, the breed can be aloof and not make up to people quickly. But aggression is not something inherent in the breed overall - like all breeds, it can be found in certain lines and caused by certain methods of handling.

Go ahead and say "I don't trust chows" but don't make statements with no true foundation. That's only common sense.

Melanie and the gang in Alaska

 

[pitbulliest]

Then I've met a lot of exceptions. Of the three who really scared me (and came closest to actually killing my dogs), two were allowed to roam freely in their unfenced front yards in a small town. The third was a proven dog-killer left in the care of a 12-year-old boy who casually opened the door for a friend as the dog was launching itself in a rage at the front window because it could see my dog on the sidewalk outside. In all three cases, the owners knew the dogs were dangerous and yet left them uncontrolled.

And that's just the scariest cases. My dos and I have been chased, jumped, harassed and stalked by many dozens of less-dangerous but still aggressive loose dogs over the years, and I no longer believe that more than a tiny minority of dog owners has a clear idea of what their pet is really like. It's unpleasant to realize that your dog is aggressive or potentially dangerous. Many people persist in reading aggressive behavior as 'cute' or 'friendly' when it's anything but.

btw, I am speaking about all breeds. The bull and guardian breeds are clearly the most dangerous when aggressive, and I absolutely refuse to go near one if I have my dog with me and the dog seems under-controlled (ie, a flexilead, off-leash, or in an inadequately fenced yard). But any breed large enough to cause damage is bad news if it's loose and nasty. I had a bad experience with a Rough Collie last year, and I'm not real thrilled with the owner, who turned his two dogs loose and completely ignored his large male stalking and eye-f**ng my dog and me for several minutes.

The bull and guardian breeds are clearly the most dangerous and aggressive? how so?....

 

[solidstaffs]

The bull and guardian breeds are clearly the most dangerous and aggressive? how so?....

Because the B.S.L. D.D.A. and the press say so...........So it must be true

I dont know about in the States and Canada, but if you look at the registered dog attack/bites here in the UK the Bull breeds are nowhere near the top os the list

 

[Bailey+Ralph]

Then I've met a lot of exceptions. Of the three who really scared me (and came closest to actually killing my dogs), two were allowed to roam freely in their unfenced front yards in a small town. The third was a proven dog-killer left in the care of a 12-year-old boy who casually opened the door for a friend as the dog was launching itself in a rage at the front window because it could see my dog on the sidewalk outside. In all three cases, the owners knew the dogs were dangerous and yet left them uncontrolled.

And that's just the scariest cases. My dos and I have been chased, jumped, harassed and stalked by many dozens of less-dangerous but still aggressive loose dogs over the years, and I no longer believe that more than a tiny minority of dog owners has a clear idea of what their pet is really like. It's unpleasant to realize that your dog is aggressive or potentially dangerous. Many people persist in reading aggressive behavior as 'cute' or 'friendly' when it's anything but.

btw, I am speaking about all breeds. The bull and guardian breeds are clearly the most dangerous when aggressive, and I absolutely refuse to go near one if I have my dog with me and the dog seems under-controlled (ie, a flexilead, off-leash, or in an inadequately fenced yard). But any breed large enough to cause damage is bad news if it's loose and nasty. I had a bad experience with a Rough Collie last year, and I'm not real thrilled with the owner, who turned his two dogs loose and completely ignored his large male stalking and eye-f**ng my dog and me for several minutes.

Ok, not everyone will agree on liking one particul breed of dog.
some will say another is too aloof, the other could be to big, maybe too small, maybe they have been bitten by a particular breed and therefore don't trust them!
But to say that the Bull breed are definately the most dangerous when aggresive is just what you read in the papers!
This is exactly why the Bull breed have a bad Reputation...........comments like that.

 

[casablanca1]

The bull and guardian breeds are clearly the most dangerous and aggressive? how so?....

I said these types of dogs are the most dangerous when aggressive.
And that's not my biased perception, that's just the result of what they were bred to do - if you're looking for the best dog to guard your property or fight another dog, you want a reasonably large animal with a lot of power and drive, and you don't want a dog who'll break off an attack just because someone kicked him or bit back. That means, overall, a pit bull or a Fila is harder to stop than another, similarly sized dog. Plenty of dogs are nasty, but a lot of them are fairly easy to drive off. A lucky bite can cause huge damage, but most first bites aren't that lucky. If a dog bites and is driven off, that's less dangerous than a dog who bites, releases and can't be driven off, bites again in a better place and hangs on. That's where the real danger of death lies, and that's why fighting and guardian breeds are most dangerous when aggressive.

But to say that the Bull breed are definately the most dangerous when aggresive is just what you read in the papers! This is exactly why the Bull breed have a bad Reputation...........comments like that.

No, that's not why the 'bull breeds' have a bad rep. They're large, powerful dogs who are extremely difficult to stop once they've begun an attack. The macho factor attract rotten people who mishandle them. They appeal to a lazy media that knows nothing about dogs. They are the 'type' that ranks highest in the CDC's cases of death or severe injury in dog attacks in the US. They're the victims of pity by people who persist in rehoming aggressive dogs, leading to more attacks and more media coverage. Comments - and debate - about their potential for harm has nothing to do with their reputation, and is not a prejudicial cause of their exploitation.

 

[Dobiegurl]

Ok, not everyone will agree on liking one particul breed of dog.
some will say another is too aloof, the other could be to big, maybe too small, maybe they have been bitten by a particular breed and therefore don't trust them!
But to say that the Bull breed are definately the most dangerous when aggresive is just what you read in the papers!
This is exactly why the Bull breed have a bad Reputation...........comments like that.

Thats the exact point I was trying to make about Chows. Everyone is entitled to fear what they want, but to say a certain breed IS agressive is inaccurate. No breed IS more or less agressive than another because YOU say so.

I was simply trying to spare the Chow breed for being deemed vicious.