as lexus has said if you have the money to do the genome tests out there and you findout your white is an albino you should never bred it because yes genetics does play a huge role in dogs and humans...
Please show me where Lexus has said this. It simply is not true. There is NO test on the market that can tell if a dog is an albino or not. None of the major labs offer this type of test, and if it is available, please provide proof of such. You have provided links to other genetic coat color tests, but not have included a test for albinism.
I was going to get a test from vet gen for Tas for color and I was speaking to one of the ladies who has sent me some info on the differences in dobermans and EVEN the red dobe is a dilution which is sad...
Red is not a dilution. There is no debate about this, according to scientific terms, it just ISN'T. It is the recessive form of black.
Why would you get a vetgen test for a blue doberman? The vetgen tells you which alleles of the genes are present at the B locus.
For those who don't know what I'm talking about, let me provide a brief explanation of doberman coat color genetics:
There are two genes that determine coat color in the doberman: the "B" gene and the "D" gene. Every organism carries two copies of each gene. However, these two copies are not always exactly the same - there are variant forms called alleles. There are two alleles of the "B" gene -- B (big B) and b (little B). B is dominant over b, which means, if even one copy is present it will mask the little b. Thus, an dog that is BB or Bb is black and a dog that is bb (no big B present) is red.
The "B" gene codes for a protein that makes pigment in the hair. The pigment is either black (BB, Bb) or red (bb). The "D" gene, or dilution gene, controls how much of the pigment from the "B" gene is produced. D (big D -- the animal would be DD or Dd) is dominant, and makes the full amount of pigment. d (little d -- the animal would be dd) makes less pigment. Thus, and animal that is dd would be a dilution of the original red or black.
BB or Bb along with a DD or Dd would be a black dog. bbDD or bbDd would be a red dog. BBdd or Bbdd would be a blue dog. Finally, bbdd would be a fawn dog.
These are the clasically known alleles of these genes in the doberman. Thus, there is no "room" for these genes to encode a fifth color -- white. If there were different (called "mutant" in genetic terms) forms of these genes, then the "white" dogs produced would still be mutant dogs in genetic terms. Thus, it is of little relevance whether or not these dogs are albino or not, if their genetic makeup varies from standard (as it obviously does by their phenotype, or how they look) then they should not be bred.
to be albino you would LACK ALL pigment.... have red pupils and so on with the albinist traits. Though some of the people would love to get me into an arguement over this so they can try to get me to leave It wont happen...
This again, simply is not true. There are many, many different types of albinos and pigment disorders. Not all result in white with red eyes. There are also other very deleterious mutations that occur that are not related to albinism at all. The fact is these animals are genetic mutants and should not be bred.
you should stop call any university around you and ask them for their albino genome research reports to understand how they work....
Which universities are doing this type of research? You have been touting this "evidence" across the internet for months now, but have not been able to produce it. Why? Because it does not exist. I am very adapt at searching the primary scientific literature at this point in my life and have free access to almost every publication through my school and there is nothing there.
The research the DPCA did over half a century ago is not out of date. It was conclusive, and since there is not much profit in dog coat color genetics, much of it has not been repeated. Albinism in rodents (who have much more complex color genetics) has been widely studied and widely understood. These things are no longer "cutting edge" research topics -- they are regarded as fact.
Princes Genome report... Because His genome came back on the D locus where as any albino will show up on the C Locus...
Not exactly sure what this statment means. Could you please post the full results of the genetic testing you had done?
Your phrase doesn't even make sense. A genome is an organism's genetic material. A locus is the physical location of a gene on a chromosome. So, how would his genome (or his entire genetic material) come back "on" the location of one gene? All dogs will have genes at both the D and C loci... So, if he is missing genes at the C locus altogether, well, he wouldn't be alive (or as kim likes to say, "that is inconsistent with living").
If there was a genetic test, it would determine which alleles of the D and C genes he had in his genome. It would tell you whether he had the dominant or recessive alleles discussed above at the D locus. And it would tell you if he had the dominant (not albino) or recessive (albino) alleles at the C locus.
If anyone has any questions about this feel free to ask... As witnessed by white's post, techinical terms are often thrown around with little understanding of what they actually mean...
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