Anyone have satellite internet access?

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Just curious if anyone does and how you like the service? I need to get internet access at my house, but no high speed connections are offered in my area. The joys of living in South Carolina. Anyway, DSL is not even available to me.

I have Dish Network and I'm looking into their satellite internet. I'm just curious as to if it's worth it.....it is kind of expensive.
 
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Who are you going through to get DSL?

I live in NC, and Bellsouth told us DSL was unavailable to us as well. We knew that was bullcrap, as we know the people who lived here before had it.
 

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I was trying to get DSL through Bellsouth. I don't think they know their asses from their elbows.....especially now after reading your story with it...

Yesterday I went online here at work to check if Bellsouth DSL is available to me. At first the website said no, then it said yes when I fully typed out my address (I simply typed out Road the 2nd time instead of Rd.) When it said yes, I ordered it. Today I get an e-mail saying it's not available to me.

Here is what gets me......there are 2 people that have it within 500 yards of my house.

Anyway, I need a high speed internet connection at my house, which is why I'm now looking in a satellite provider.
 
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Call them and give them hell... that is what we did.

Do you have any kind of instant messanger? I'll be able to tell you what we said to them then :D
 

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Oh yeah, I am......My sister is too, she lives next door to me, they have been telling her the same thing....

Nah, I don't have an instant messenger....but I do have the private message thing here. :)
 

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So, you haven't had any problems with it?
How's the speed compared to cable?

I'd prefer cable also, but cable tv doesn't even run by my house...got a satellite b/c of that.
 

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I have a friend that has Hughes Net...I think that is what its called. For regular surfing it is ok (way faster than dial up but slower than DSL and Cable). His download speed is just fine but the upload or sending signal is kinda weird. If you do certain things that require in sink up and downloads like some games you can't really use Satellite internet. Some people can't work from home on it because of this "problem". See if you can get a demonstration...I think they come out in a van.
 

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satellite is, generally, not as fast as DSL or especially Cable.

Satellite generally offers good throughput but high latency, that is it can take a bit to make a connection but then when data is coming down finally it generally goes pretty good.

Most times you're sending out information with a modem over a phone line and then receiving your answers from the satellite. So you will also tend to have slow upload (for example putting a photo in to photobucket) but fast download (viewing the photo online)
 
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So, you haven't had any problems with it?
How's the speed compared to cable?

I'd prefer cable also, but cable tv doesn't even run by my house...got a satellite b/c of that.

Its gone out a few times due to really nasty storms, but I had that issue with cable to. At least with satelite some drunk or woman driver wont hit a pole and knock it out.

The latency issue I think would be bad if you are an online gamer, but for general surfing websites, porn, ebay and Chaz it works just fine
 

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I have dial up and it is slooowww ! But I have more time than $$ so it suits me .!
 

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Thanks for all the input.....

DishNetwork's system does not require a phone line, they install a dish that can receive and send signals. The upload speed is still slower though.

The fastest speed they offer is 1.5 Mbps download and 256 kbps upload for $79.95 a month. Is expensive, but I really need something faster than dialup. I'm not an online gamer, so that's no big deal to me.

All the info for it is on the website... www.dishnetwork.com
 

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something to note... just so you're not taken unawares

kbps means kilobits per second (Kbps)... and you're used to seeing download speeds in kilobytes per second (KBps). Since there are 8 bits to a byte a 256Kbps upload is actually a max of 32KBps

Also Mbps is megabits per second, and not megabytes per second. since there are, roughly 1000 K in 1 M, and 8 b in one B, your download speed will be 187.5 KBps.

Not that it appears you have much choice but don't be suprised when you never "see" either of those numbers.
 

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And for you science geeks: yes 1M is EXACTLY 1000K, but not always in the computer industry. Theres no regulation here and there are two measurements for this: 1000K to 1M ... or ... 1024K to 1M. This leads even us into much confusion. The rule of thumb is to always assume the worse. Since bigger numbers sell you have to figure they'll squeeze you for those last 24K if they can...

Incidentally its 1024 because RAM tends to work in powers of 2 (as brought about by the initial use of binary in comuters which is, in itself, a power of 2). 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, 1024. so back in the day they just called 1024 a K because it was "pretty close" This from the industry who brought you the old Pentium chips which couldn't properly work in decimals ;)
 

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And for you science geeks: yes 1M is EXACTLY 1000K, but not always in the computer industry. Theres no regulation here and there are two measurements for this: 1000K to 1M ... or ... 1024K to 1M. This leads even us into much confusion. The rule of thumb is to always assume the worse. Since bigger numbers sell you have to figure they'll squeeze you for those last 24K if they can...

Incidentally its 1024 because RAM tends to work in powers of 2 (as brought about by the initial use of binary in comuters which is, in itself, a power of 2). 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, 1024. so back in the day they just called 1024 a K because it was "pretty close" This from the industry who brought you the old Pentium chips which couldn't properly work in decimals ;)
*shakes head* Huh? Whaaa??? :confused:

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something to note... just so you're not taken unawares

kbps means kilobits per second (Kbps)... and you're used to seeing download speeds in kilobytes per second (KBps). Since there are 8 bits to a byte a 256Kbps upload is actually a max of 32KBps

Also Mbps is megabits per second, and not megabytes per second. since there are, roughly 1000 K in 1 M, and 8 b in one B, your download speed will be 187.5 KBps.

Not that it appears you have much choice but don't be suprised when you never "see" either of those numbers.
You bring up a good point. I assumed it's kilobytes and megabytes. I e-mailed DishNetwork to find out.....

Now that I think about it, the megabytes per second really wouldn't make sense, that would be blazing fast....
 

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:) s'ok I did mention that was slanted towards the geeks :)

anyhow binary is how computers store information. you see computers use electrical charges which are either charged (which is a 1) or not charged (which is a 0) each charge or non-charge is called a "bit" Obviously "on" and "off" alone have a very limited variety of uses so they grouped this bits into units of 8 . Each group of 8 is called a "byte."

Think about it like this: a penny is the base unit of American currency. And a nickel represents 5 pennies.

so really the actual "smallest piece of information you can have in a computer" is a "bit". But the smallest "useful" (detailed) piece of information in a computer is a "byte"

So since the beginning computers were wrapped up in the powers of 2 (2 possible values for a bit, and even bytes are calculated by assigning exponents to placeholders) and there was no real reason to deviate from this.

And RAM (where computers keep information when they're on; as opposed to hard disks where they keep information when they're off) was designed with this in mind: The smallest piece of information will be 8 bits, and data grows in powers of 2.

when ram sizes got up pretty high they decided that they ought to start using suffixes, and people tend to understand kilo, mega, etc. But the closest they could get to an actual kilo was 1024 because of the whole "data grows by powers of 2" thing. And so that was used for a long time.

Then manufacturers, once we reached the "mega" and then "giga" sizes realized that if we have 60,000,000 bytes we can sell it as 60 "mega" because (after all, thats what it means anywhere else), and not have to come up with the extra 2,914,560 to make a computer 60 mega (62,914,560). So corporate greed caused, forever, there to be 2 meanings for kilo in the computer world... 1024 or 1000, whichever was more... convenient.

And from that moment on consumers everywhere have been duped... buying a 60Gb hard drive that only formats to 55Gb, and so on and so forth.

The bandwidth measurement difference here, though, is actually the result of a completely different issue.

Back in the day modems were these nasty things which required that you pick up a telephone, dial a number, wait for some nasty screeching sounds, and then (quite literally) set the phone down on the modem which was like an electronic ear and mouth.

And they were measured in "baud" or "bits per second" because they were so damned slow, and nobody figured it would ever matter anyhow. so a 300 baud modem would transfer 300 bits (or 37 bytes) per second. (thats 2 kilobyte in a minute for those keeping track)

So from the very beginning bandwidth was measured in bits, since it was mostly academic and governmental back then using a name which made sense in the long run didn't matter as much as using a name which was accurate.

It's stayed on for the same reason... selling a 256k line sounds a hell of a lot better than selling a 32K line, doesn't it? Just marketing and greed...

*shakes head* Huh? Whaaa??? :confused:

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I e-mailed Dish Network about the Mbps and kbps issue....

They claimed in the e-mail that it is Megabytes and kilobytes.
 

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