animal testing
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I don't think the person did much more than google animal testing.
Asprin causes birth defects in people to-one of the reasons it is probally tested. childrens asprin is not even supposed to be given to children(which they supposedly were supposed to change the name but i have paid no attention).
I think its a necessary evil. There are obvioulsy things that no longer need tested like certain make up ingredients etc,but the med trials with animals do give a lot of good information. Its true that not all animals react the same but sometimes thats something posative and it helps them better understand the drug more.It might show how it works under a diffrent system etc.
As a nurse it honestly sound stupid. Its not any certain persons fault how certain people react to certain drugs. that has nothing at all to do with animal testing. the animal testing is so basic that the effects are geneerally not even seen at the hospital. Its generally something like this caused every animal with it to die so we won't use it-not that it stopped heartburn and slowed the heart or something.
You have to know how trials work(and honestly human trials are all thats really looked at-the animal ones look for catastrophic things)and how medications work to really know if its needed or not. I think a lot of testing is unnecessary-but a lot of it isn't.
Asprin causes birth defects in people to-one of the reasons it is probally tested. childrens asprin is not even supposed to be given to children(which they supposedly were supposed to change the name but i have paid no attention).
I think its a necessary evil. There are obvioulsy things that no longer need tested like certain make up ingredients etc,but the med trials with animals do give a lot of good information. Its true that not all animals react the same but sometimes thats something posative and it helps them better understand the drug more.It might show how it works under a diffrent system etc.
As a nurse it honestly sound stupid. Its not any certain persons fault how certain people react to certain drugs. that has nothing at all to do with animal testing. the animal testing is so basic that the effects are geneerally not even seen at the hospital. Its generally something like this caused every animal with it to die so we won't use it-not that it stopped heartburn and slowed the heart or something.
You have to know how trials work(and honestly human trials are all thats really looked at-the animal ones look for catastrophic things)and how medications work to really know if its needed or not. I think a lot of testing is unnecessary-but a lot of it isn't.
Do you all know about the drug trials that went haywire in the UK this year?
Six men were made critically ill and at least one that I know of remains disabled to this day. The drug was tested on monkeys and they evidenced 'swollen glands'. Nothing like the exploding head feeling and near death experienced by the volunteers of this trial.
So... having tested on the monkeys did they not pay attention to the warning signals OR were the monkeys reactions not at all what one could expect in humans - rendering them pointless?
Six men were made critically ill and at least one that I know of remains disabled to this day. The drug was tested on monkeys and they evidenced 'swollen glands'. Nothing like the exploding head feeling and near death experienced by the volunteers of this trial.
So... having tested on the monkeys did they not pay attention to the warning signals OR were the monkeys reactions not at all what one could expect in humans - rendering them pointless?
i've spent years researching animal testing. a lot of it form unbiased sources. and i still believe what i did originally. it is disgusting and unnecasary. who cares if it can cure human diseases. their our disease, our problem. it isn't fair to artificially infect a chimpanzee with syphilis or to electrecute dogs, cat, rabbits, mice, rats etc.
animal testing has lead to some major F*ck ups in medicine and health,
animal testing has lead to some major F*ck ups in medicine and health,
Something people who don't work in the medical field seem to forget is that even with medications that people have used for years there are always epople who will have severe reactions. there is no way around that at all.
You say it passed the test with the monkeys-I bet it also passed a test with a group of humans. Its jsut that some certain epople react badly to it. thats not something yuo can use to argue against animal testing. By the time the drugs are out they have been tested on humans.
you can't argue that the meds made people sick-but don't test it on the animals first. By the time meds are accepted by the fda they ahve been used by people for a while.
On another point I am for death row drug testing and organ transplants. Nothing horrible but if they are going to die anyway why not try some meds that may jsut affect something small.
there is a cancer trial right now that has helped a large number of people and they had to hold off the press confrence because some people did show some bad reactions. People who have taken it are upsett because if they would jsut push it through they think it would be saving hundreds of people.
Another thing to consider is drug costs. It something like 300million to fully create a new drug. thats a lot. If they couldn't do animal testing it would take a longer time and cost a lot more. People die because they cna't afford there meds.
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You say it passed the test with the monkeys-I bet it also passed a test with a group of humans. Its jsut that some certain epople react badly to it. thats not something yuo can use to argue against animal testing. By the time the drugs are out they have been tested on humans.
you can't argue that the meds made people sick-but don't test it on the animals first. By the time meds are accepted by the fda they ahve been used by people for a while.
On another point I am for death row drug testing and organ transplants. Nothing horrible but if they are going to die anyway why not try some meds that may jsut affect something small.
there is a cancer trial right now that has helped a large number of people and they had to hold off the press confrence because some people did show some bad reactions. People who have taken it are upsett because if they would jsut push it through they think it would be saving hundreds of people.
Another thing to consider is drug costs. It something like 300million to fully create a new drug. thats a lot. If they couldn't do animal testing it would take a longer time and cost a lot more. People die because they cna't afford there meds.
My typing is pathetic cuz my keyboard sucks
Animal testing is not kind, but neither arre the diseases that kill us. If animal testing means medication is safer and more available, than it is a necessary evil. My daughter has Crohn's disease, and one of her medications is saving her life every day. If animal testing was done to make it safer for her, than I am for it. Humanely Hopefully.