Are you serious ???? Making a statement about something like that does more harm to getting people to understand a pittbull then to help them. It is exactly the type of thing anti pit people are looking for out of pro pit people. I thought the video was a very moving tribute to a lovely young girl who lost her life to a deranged dog !!!!!! That video would not change my mind one bit because I feel any dog is capable of killing if it is nuts!!! But statements such as yours and the fact that a child was killed and you see it as propaganda and if I continue to read such statements as to it being that childs fault then I may rethink my stand on the breed. Statements like this make me think cover up. If pit owners would spend more time introducing them to the public in positive ways such as in senior centers handicapped places I think you would make more ground. Placing blame on an innocent 5 yr. old or thier parents is not going to gain sympathy or help their cause.
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I think Road Dog was referring to the statements in the video such as "Pit Bulls are not pets, they are weapons".
It was a nice to the little girl but I wish they'd have left that BS out.
I just don't understand what people don't grasp about INDIVIDUALS. That dog needed to be destroyed, but that doesn't mean all Pits do. There are some Border Collies that can't work worth a dam.n does that mean they all are worthless as stock dogs?
It was a nice to the little girl but I wish they'd have left that BS out.
I just don't understand what people don't grasp about INDIVIDUALS. That dog needed to be destroyed, but that doesn't mean all Pits do. There are some Border Collies that can't work worth a dam.n does that mean they all are worthless as stock dogs?
Thank you RD.
Not once did I place blame on the child.
I think that the pics of viscious looking dogs and the statements, generalizing the breed, calling them deadly weapons were completely uncalled for. His comments had nothing at all to do with this particular attack. They were generalizing an entire breed as being bad.
Not once did I place blame on the child.
I think that the pics of viscious looking dogs and the statements, generalizing the breed, calling them deadly weapons were completely uncalled for. His comments had nothing at all to do with this particular attack. They were generalizing an entire breed as being bad.
The breed
Please please do not consider or describe this dog as a pit bull. It is a sh!t bull bred by back yard scum who have no interest in the breed. The animal was bred and purchased as nothing more than a penis extension. Temperament as well as physical features defines a breed.
Jeez it really p!sses me off.
Please please do not consider or describe this dog as a pit bull. It is a sh!t bull bred by back yard scum who have no interest in the breed. The animal was bred and purchased as nothing more than a penis extension. Temperament as well as physical features defines a breed.
Jeez it really p!sses me off.
First, let me say that this was a horrible tragedy and I am so sorry for the loss of this little girl. If it were my daughter, I would be devastated and want justice.
That said, here's my five cents. (darn inflation)
I was left alone with my dogs all the time as a kid. I was taught how to respond to them and they were taught how to tolerate me. It's called trust. New Age Parenting?!?! Makes no sense.
No, if the dog attacked, it wasn't the kids fault, but it wasn't the dogs fault either. Irresponsible owner who didn't train/socialize. If the owner socialized and the kid possibly did something, the dog would be more tolerant.
A small child is the most likely person to provoke a dog! Kids don't understand what they are and aren't supposed to do. It's NEVER okay for a dog to attack a person, but you can't blame an entire breed because one person was irresponsible and didn't train and socialize thier dog properly. ANY dog could have done the same thing! Your Smokey is just as capable as any pit or rottie.
So your research. Pits are NOT the problem. There are more pits, or mixes thereof out there than most breeds. And they only account for a VERY tiny fraction of deaths by dogs each year.
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That said, here's my five cents. (darn inflation)
I was left alone with my dogs all the time as a kid. I was taught how to respond to them and they were taught how to tolerate me. It's called trust. New Age Parenting?!?! Makes no sense.
Oh, here we go again. Out comes the blame game, it was such a sweet dog until it snapped and killed somebody, demonize the victim by blaming on them, Pit Bull defence.. The same Mantra, over and over , again...... God, I get sick of hearing this garbage..
What crud.....
What crud.....
A small child is the most likely person to provoke a dog! Kids don't understand what they are and aren't supposed to do. It's NEVER okay for a dog to attack a person, but you can't blame an entire breed because one person was irresponsible and didn't train and socialize thier dog properly. ANY dog could have done the same thing! Your Smokey is just as capable as any pit or rottie.
So your research. Pits are NOT the problem. There are more pits, or mixes thereof out there than most breeds. And they only account for a VERY tiny fraction of deaths by dogs each year.
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RC, what about the breeder? You are taking the owners into consideration (and they sound like the unsavory type) but what if they did everything right? I think the fault for this lies with the breeder too. There's something very, very wrong with a dog that will attack and KEEP ATTACKING until a PACK MEMBER is dead. It doesn't matter if it's a child that provoked him. What could a 5 year old could've done? Poked him? Stepped on him? I've seen properly bred Pit Bulls endure worse with a smile and a tail wag.
Temperament makes a big deal, even in cases where abuse is involved. A child could beat Dakota within an inch of his life: he'd bite, for sure, but kill? When a child gets bitten, they immediately recoil and back off. That's when most defensive attacks end. I have a hard time believing that this was a defensive attack brought on by provocation. Sorry, jmo.
Temperament makes a big deal, even in cases where abuse is involved. A child could beat Dakota within an inch of his life: he'd bite, for sure, but kill? When a child gets bitten, they immediately recoil and back off. That's when most defensive attacks end. I have a hard time believing that this was a defensive attack brought on by provocation. Sorry, jmo.
Pancho,
I am sorry I can not give you a link to it and don't have anyhting to back up what I am saying as I don't have the newpaper I read this in to hand. But as I recall, the Daily Mail in the Uk reported that this dog was supsected to be from the same litter that the police seized from a BYB. Except in this case the BY was I think, the back of a hairdressers shop.
Ah ... I did find a link to that... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/text/article.html?in_article_id=426514&in_page_id=1770&in_main_section=News&in_sub_section=&in_chn_id=1469
I am sorry I can not give you a link to it and don't have anyhting to back up what I am saying as I don't have the newpaper I read this in to hand. But as I recall, the Daily Mail in the Uk reported that this dog was supsected to be from the same litter that the police seized from a BYB. Except in this case the BY was I think, the back of a hairdressers shop.
Ah ... I did find a link to that... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/text/article.html?in_article_id=426514&in_page_id=1770&in_main_section=News&in_sub_section=&in_chn_id=1469
Nice link Skyeboxer and thanks. This is my point that these animals are being bred for this and owned by gangsta type people and I never said that a pit was a horrible beast.
But what I have said is that pits need to be put out in a positive situation and show public that they can be good. I fear this is not going to happen when we blame it on victims. How can a person walking their poodle down the road on a lead be at fault when a pit runs up and eats it ?This is happening every day in the cities. These dogs are the victims of a type of people that we as a society have yet to figure a solution for. Bear in mind they raise these dogs to act as they do. Lets not forget that these people will also drive by a home and shoot into it with not a care in the world that they shot and killed a three year old child. There is a pit problem and it is directly related to those who have no reguard for human life anyway. What is the solution ? I truly don't know but I can offer a suggestion. When pits are taken into custody weither full or mix they should be adopted out to owners who have been thouroughly back ground checked and also do not live in the areas where pits are being used as leathal wepons. Being as how the shelters are overloaded with pit and pit bull mix it is to easy for these poor excuses for humans to get their hands on one and train it or force it to live their lifestyle. I see your pits up here and have grown to love them but these I fear are the rare exception because they have good owners. I do not hate any breed however I don't want to own every breed either.
Blaming the victim is never right and we all can agree that it is because of irresponsible ownership now my question is WHAT IS THE ANSWER ???
But what I have said is that pits need to be put out in a positive situation and show public that they can be good. I fear this is not going to happen when we blame it on victims. How can a person walking their poodle down the road on a lead be at fault when a pit runs up and eats it ?This is happening every day in the cities. These dogs are the victims of a type of people that we as a society have yet to figure a solution for. Bear in mind they raise these dogs to act as they do. Lets not forget that these people will also drive by a home and shoot into it with not a care in the world that they shot and killed a three year old child. There is a pit problem and it is directly related to those who have no reguard for human life anyway. What is the solution ? I truly don't know but I can offer a suggestion. When pits are taken into custody weither full or mix they should be adopted out to owners who have been thouroughly back ground checked and also do not live in the areas where pits are being used as leathal wepons. Being as how the shelters are overloaded with pit and pit bull mix it is to easy for these poor excuses for humans to get their hands on one and train it or force it to live their lifestyle. I see your pits up here and have grown to love them but these I fear are the rare exception because they have good owners. I do not hate any breed however I don't want to own every breed either.
Blaming the victim is never right and we all can agree that it is because of irresponsible ownership now my question is WHAT IS THE ANSWER ???
I thought it was a disgusting exploitation of a young girls death to further someones hatred of a dog breed. The maker of that should be ASHAMED! If it was a tribute to the girl (which it started out to be) why did they have all the BS about a breed of dog? Thats not a tribute, that is exploitation!
RD-- INDIVIDUALS... What don't they get about it? People as a whole like stereotypes. Its easier for the mind; labels are short cuts for the mind. People don't want to relearn each individual they want to be able to say that All "X" are bad. That way the TV does all the thinking
Heck, that is why so many people love to hate other people they have never met....its easy.
RD-- INDIVIDUALS... What don't they get about it? People as a whole like stereotypes. Its easier for the mind; labels are short cuts for the mind. People don't want to relearn each individual they want to be able to say that All "X" are bad. That way the TV does all the thinking
Heck, that is why so many people love to hate other people they have never met....its easy.
Whomever made that video knew that little girl. Where else would he or she have gotten so many photos of her but via the family. The video is chuck full of pain and anger. Just putting myself in their place for a minute, I would imagine right now that the family is not too in love with pit bulls right now. It is easy not to feel the pain of a statistic when you are not one of the statistics. I don't think the intent was to exploit so much as to explode.
That is a strange way to put it. I'm pretty sure if my 5 year old girl was mauled to death by a chiuaha it would take me a very long time not to want to kick every one I ever met to death. And believe me, I have nothing against chis.
I also have nothing against pits and agree 100% about looking at dogs as individuals. That said what a tragedy it is that the pit breed is so attractive to shady owners and are so often bred for all the wrong reasons.
Grief is a dreadful, dreadful thing. It grips you like a vice round the throat and will not let you go. Anger, despair, hatred, suicidal impulses, extreme depression. The anger perhaps should be directed to that irresponsible young man but I cannot imagine grief ever being described as lazy.
I did not watch that video and will not. Perhaps you are right, Kayla. But don't ever judge anyone on their reactions to the death of a loved one. We are all capable of losing touch with reason at a time like that.
I also have nothing against pits and agree 100% about looking at dogs as individuals. That said what a tragedy it is that the pit breed is so attractive to shady owners and are so often bred for all the wrong reasons.
Grief is a dreadful, dreadful thing. It grips you like a vice round the throat and will not let you go. Anger, despair, hatred, suicidal impulses, extreme depression. The anger perhaps should be directed to that irresponsible young man but I cannot imagine grief ever being described as lazy.
I did not watch that video and will not. Perhaps you are right, Kayla. But don't ever judge anyone on their reactions to the death of a loved one. We are all capable of losing touch with reason at a time like that.
Oh I wasn't judging them in the sense of putting them down, but in my view revenge is a lazy form of grief because it allows you to avoid dealing with what actually happening and finding a way to grief for them not for what happened to them. Obviously when anything as horrible as that grips a family taking revenge whether its against an actual person or animal your diverting yourself from having to deal with the pain of what actually happened by blaming something else. In the end everyone has to deal with the horrible emotions that come along with the loss of a loved one especially such a young and innocent child and I can't say I wouldn't be extremely angry either in a similar situation and did not mean to sound like I was putting the family down, but I still stick by my original though that seeking revenge instead of griefing will not make that pain go away thus it is a lazy way to grief as it's a temporary escape,nothing more.
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I honestly didn't know there was such a thing as a lazy form of grief. The only grief I have ever known or seen in others was always very intense and, quite honestly, exhausting. Sometimes it even gives way to anger. Sometimes it even ruins entire families. No, grief is not for the lazy.
I know that deep down inside there has to be a miniscule of sympathy if not empathy for the family that lost a five year old to a wincing mauling. It just doesn't show very much here. It really is easy not to feel the pain when it isn't our own. Statistics often mean nothing to us unless we become one of them. My family was affected by a very rare statistic that resulted in a horrible unnecessary death and the subsequent death of another member. I can tell you that knowing it was rare and could have been prevented did not quell the grief one bit. Statistics have a funny way of thumbing their noses at you. Not being one doesn't mean you will never become one. I am using "you" here in the generic and it is not directed at any specific person. It is wrong to be angry at this family. They have done nothing except be a victim of a horrible killing.
I remember Harry Nilsson's work, The Point, where one of the characters says, "We see what we want to see, and we hear what we want to hear, ya dig?". The general public falls into that category right now on this issue, and so do all pit bull owners, it seems. Both sides are seeing what they want to see and hearing what they want to hear. If you feel that others exploit these deaths for the cause against a breed, the truth is, if there weren't another death there would be nothing to exploit.
I really feel for those of you who have beloved pit bulls, but if you would just take a moment and re-read how little of your feelings are associated with victims in these threads, I know you will see what I am saying here. I know you are afraid. But shutting down your feelings for victims or showing disdain for their valid feelings will not help the case for pit bulls. The thing is, I know it's not deliberate so much is it rings of fear of your own. Fear that one day your dog may be banned. I understand this and I honestly don't know the answer. But I will tell you that the answer does not lie in defending growing statistics and discounting deaths as the fault of people who THOUGHT they had a family pet before it killed. I really think you would all do better to say, Yes there is a problem with pit bull attacks and I am saddened because my dog isn't part of that problem.
Honestly, blaming the victims of this killing or their subsequent reactions from grief (as in helping someone to make a video) is not very helpful to The Cause. I know that people's beloved pets hang in the balance here, but it does no good to comparatively discount the pain, suffering, disfigurement or death of someone who is loved by someone else. As I said, the future of beloved pets hang in the balance so it's at least somewhat excusable, but not to the general public. They are never in the mood for intellectualizing when they feel they are in danger. Overall, the general public is going to win out when it comes down to them or any one of our dogs. It's the way it is.
It used to be that people had dogs and if one got loose, you would look out the window and day Geeze, Ernie's dog is loose. You hoped that he didn't poop on your lawn at best or get hit by a car at worst. In the decades in which I grew up, and I'm no Spring Chicken, I did not know a single person personally who was mauled or killed by a dog until the past decade. It did happen "somewhere else" and it was covered in newspapers then too. But it was comparatively rare, rare enough to be horrific to imagine it actually happening to anyone you knew. It's not like that today. Today, if Ernie's dog gets loose and it's a breed we have read about over and over again, we say Oh My God, Ernie's dog is loose and he could attack and kill somebody. You have to realize that this is where the public is at and that it is not altogether without reason. All any of us has to do is google any breed name followed by the word "kills" to understand that the concern is real. The only time I ever got bitten by a dog where it really hurt, it was a pomeranian. If I google "Pomeranian Kills" I don't imagine I will see too many articles. Today, if I see a loose Pom, my first thought isn't that it will kill anyone, but I wouldn't want to be bitten. Bites happen. They don't kill. The public accepts that a dog could bite. Maimings and deaths on the other hand, are not acceptable--especially with respect to children or the elderly. The net has given the public a heavier understanding of these deaths and how they occur and it is really not helpful in either direction to ignore the statistics.
I know I have mentioned this before and I am only trying to throw a dose of honesty in here, but the general public does not want to adapt to dogs. They expect dogs to adapt to them. This means they expect the public to be as safe as possible from the potential that a child or other pet might be killed or maimed by a dog of any breed should he happen to get loose. Dogs get loose sometimes. It happens. It could happen to anyone. Does every breed have the potential? Of course, just like every human has the potential. Some humans have the temperament for it, some don't. Some humans aren't wired right. Some dogs aren't wired right. Some dogs have the temperament for it and some dont. I think all of us have the potential to kill in self defense but not as an offense--that is, unless there is something seriously wrong with us. Soldiers not withstanding. I'm sure we can all agree that if a guy ran down the street and killed several people indiscriminately, we would forget who his parents were or what his upbringing was and just focus on the fact that he is crazy. We would blame him. However, with dogs, it is easy to determine breed or breed mixes. So you see, it's the natural course of things when the public at large reads about these things associated with one breed almost weekly, that they would connect the dots toward the breed, without regard to who owned each and every dog and how it was bred or raised. In the public's mind, these are "peripheral" issues to the "problem" they see with their safety. But regardless of who is peripherally to blame, when a dog kills another pet or a human, it is the dog's fault. Dogs have no constitutional protections and are not entitled to fair trials. When a victim is killed this is the travesty, not the fate of the dog.
Society does not expect us to keep animals that have a history of sudden short fuses and call them family pets. They regard them with the same caution as they would a pet tiger. When a person is maimed or killed by the same breed almost weekly somewhere out there, there is no way on this earth that the public will accept that the "Victim did something to make it happen". This will never be acceptable. Children will never be hurt by dogs with short fuses if we just get rid of children. You can see that is not a very good argument. Ok, then we will train all children. No, we won't, because as I said the public does not want to adapt to dogs. Dogs must adapt to them. If a particular breed of dog is so different as to require special training of the general public, the outrage would be even greater. They will make laws and more laws to ensure their own safety, even if they are not reasonable laws. But please do not blame the victims for this fervor. They are the least guilty of us all in their grief, even if they justifiably lash out in grief induced anger as their numbers grow. Losing a child has got the be the worst thing that could ever happen to a mother and the efforts we see are almost identical the the MAD movement. Victims are gathering their strength and pooling it. It's what keeps them all from losing their minds over their senseless losses.
I know that deep down inside there has to be a miniscule of sympathy if not empathy for the family that lost a five year old to a wincing mauling. It just doesn't show very much here. It really is easy not to feel the pain when it isn't our own. Statistics often mean nothing to us unless we become one of them. My family was affected by a very rare statistic that resulted in a horrible unnecessary death and the subsequent death of another member. I can tell you that knowing it was rare and could have been prevented did not quell the grief one bit. Statistics have a funny way of thumbing their noses at you. Not being one doesn't mean you will never become one. I am using "you" here in the generic and it is not directed at any specific person. It is wrong to be angry at this family. They have done nothing except be a victim of a horrible killing.
I remember Harry Nilsson's work, The Point, where one of the characters says, "We see what we want to see, and we hear what we want to hear, ya dig?". The general public falls into that category right now on this issue, and so do all pit bull owners, it seems. Both sides are seeing what they want to see and hearing what they want to hear. If you feel that others exploit these deaths for the cause against a breed, the truth is, if there weren't another death there would be nothing to exploit.
I really feel for those of you who have beloved pit bulls, but if you would just take a moment and re-read how little of your feelings are associated with victims in these threads, I know you will see what I am saying here. I know you are afraid. But shutting down your feelings for victims or showing disdain for their valid feelings will not help the case for pit bulls. The thing is, I know it's not deliberate so much is it rings of fear of your own. Fear that one day your dog may be banned. I understand this and I honestly don't know the answer. But I will tell you that the answer does not lie in defending growing statistics and discounting deaths as the fault of people who THOUGHT they had a family pet before it killed. I really think you would all do better to say, Yes there is a problem with pit bull attacks and I am saddened because my dog isn't part of that problem.
Honestly, blaming the victims of this killing or their subsequent reactions from grief (as in helping someone to make a video) is not very helpful to The Cause. I know that people's beloved pets hang in the balance here, but it does no good to comparatively discount the pain, suffering, disfigurement or death of someone who is loved by someone else. As I said, the future of beloved pets hang in the balance so it's at least somewhat excusable, but not to the general public. They are never in the mood for intellectualizing when they feel they are in danger. Overall, the general public is going to win out when it comes down to them or any one of our dogs. It's the way it is.
It used to be that people had dogs and if one got loose, you would look out the window and day Geeze, Ernie's dog is loose. You hoped that he didn't poop on your lawn at best or get hit by a car at worst. In the decades in which I grew up, and I'm no Spring Chicken, I did not know a single person personally who was mauled or killed by a dog until the past decade. It did happen "somewhere else" and it was covered in newspapers then too. But it was comparatively rare, rare enough to be horrific to imagine it actually happening to anyone you knew. It's not like that today. Today, if Ernie's dog gets loose and it's a breed we have read about over and over again, we say Oh My God, Ernie's dog is loose and he could attack and kill somebody. You have to realize that this is where the public is at and that it is not altogether without reason. All any of us has to do is google any breed name followed by the word "kills" to understand that the concern is real. The only time I ever got bitten by a dog where it really hurt, it was a pomeranian. If I google "Pomeranian Kills" I don't imagine I will see too many articles. Today, if I see a loose Pom, my first thought isn't that it will kill anyone, but I wouldn't want to be bitten. Bites happen. They don't kill. The public accepts that a dog could bite. Maimings and deaths on the other hand, are not acceptable--especially with respect to children or the elderly. The net has given the public a heavier understanding of these deaths and how they occur and it is really not helpful in either direction to ignore the statistics.
I know I have mentioned this before and I am only trying to throw a dose of honesty in here, but the general public does not want to adapt to dogs. They expect dogs to adapt to them. This means they expect the public to be as safe as possible from the potential that a child or other pet might be killed or maimed by a dog of any breed should he happen to get loose. Dogs get loose sometimes. It happens. It could happen to anyone. Does every breed have the potential? Of course, just like every human has the potential. Some humans have the temperament for it, some don't. Some humans aren't wired right. Some dogs aren't wired right. Some dogs have the temperament for it and some dont. I think all of us have the potential to kill in self defense but not as an offense--that is, unless there is something seriously wrong with us. Soldiers not withstanding. I'm sure we can all agree that if a guy ran down the street and killed several people indiscriminately, we would forget who his parents were or what his upbringing was and just focus on the fact that he is crazy. We would blame him. However, with dogs, it is easy to determine breed or breed mixes. So you see, it's the natural course of things when the public at large reads about these things associated with one breed almost weekly, that they would connect the dots toward the breed, without regard to who owned each and every dog and how it was bred or raised. In the public's mind, these are "peripheral" issues to the "problem" they see with their safety. But regardless of who is peripherally to blame, when a dog kills another pet or a human, it is the dog's fault. Dogs have no constitutional protections and are not entitled to fair trials. When a victim is killed this is the travesty, not the fate of the dog.
Society does not expect us to keep animals that have a history of sudden short fuses and call them family pets. They regard them with the same caution as they would a pet tiger. When a person is maimed or killed by the same breed almost weekly somewhere out there, there is no way on this earth that the public will accept that the "Victim did something to make it happen". This will never be acceptable. Children will never be hurt by dogs with short fuses if we just get rid of children. You can see that is not a very good argument. Ok, then we will train all children. No, we won't, because as I said the public does not want to adapt to dogs. Dogs must adapt to them. If a particular breed of dog is so different as to require special training of the general public, the outrage would be even greater. They will make laws and more laws to ensure their own safety, even if they are not reasonable laws. But please do not blame the victims for this fervor. They are the least guilty of us all in their grief, even if they justifiably lash out in grief induced anger as their numbers grow. Losing a child has got the be the worst thing that could ever happen to a mother and the efforts we see are almost identical the the MAD movement. Victims are gathering their strength and pooling it. It's what keeps them all from losing their minds over their senseless losses.
ToscasMom,
The "lack" of feeling for the girl? Why do you say that? Nearly ever poster has said how sad it is, about what happen to the girl. Just because we want the humans responsible for abusing a dog to the point it was unstable and killed, to be punished instead of thousands of innocent dogs that had zero to do with what happen, does not mean we don't care about the girl.
It is not that we don't care about the girl, its that the discussion has moved to blaming pit bulls as a breed and the refusal of some to acknowledge that human abuse and neglect created a single individual that became a monster.
You suggest what pit bull lover should say....I will suggest what Pit Bull hater should realize.... Humans that neglect and abuse animals are at fault and to hate a breed of dog is ignorant and naive and worst of all will do no good in the end. Change human behavior....and dog behavior will follow. If you destroy a breed the problem will not be solved, why can't you understand that most basic of facts?
Fault...you say dogs. I say the human that raised and controls it. Your belief is easier to deal with but is far less honest. Society will most likely take the easy way as it always does and so the innocent will be punished.
Just for intellectual exercise, In all of anti-pit bull propaganda out there, white out every place it says "Pit Bull" and then insert "Black Male" and then maybe you will see the stupidity of it.
It just amazes me that what appear to be smart people can't understand that a few (yes a few when you consider the total population vs attacks) attacks by a very few members of a group can't logically condemn and entire group.
I'll say it again, with the terrible abuse and neglect that many pit bulls endure, it is amazing they don't go crazy more often and attack. It is our duty as compassionate being to end the abuse and exploitation of pit bulls and you will see this "problem" stop.
I almost think that many Pit Bull haters refuse to blame the humans that abuse dogs (thus creating monsters) because Subconsciousally they fear guilt by association, because they are humans like the ones at fault.
The "lack" of feeling for the girl? Why do you say that? Nearly ever poster has said how sad it is, about what happen to the girl. Just because we want the humans responsible for abusing a dog to the point it was unstable and killed, to be punished instead of thousands of innocent dogs that had zero to do with what happen, does not mean we don't care about the girl.
It is not that we don't care about the girl, its that the discussion has moved to blaming pit bulls as a breed and the refusal of some to acknowledge that human abuse and neglect created a single individual that became a monster.
You suggest what pit bull lover should say....I will suggest what Pit Bull hater should realize.... Humans that neglect and abuse animals are at fault and to hate a breed of dog is ignorant and naive and worst of all will do no good in the end. Change human behavior....and dog behavior will follow. If you destroy a breed the problem will not be solved, why can't you understand that most basic of facts?
Fault...you say dogs. I say the human that raised and controls it. Your belief is easier to deal with but is far less honest. Society will most likely take the easy way as it always does and so the innocent will be punished.
Just for intellectual exercise, In all of anti-pit bull propaganda out there, white out every place it says "Pit Bull" and then insert "Black Male" and then maybe you will see the stupidity of it.
It just amazes me that what appear to be smart people can't understand that a few (yes a few when you consider the total population vs attacks) attacks by a very few members of a group can't logically condemn and entire group.
I'll say it again, with the terrible abuse and neglect that many pit bulls endure, it is amazing they don't go crazy more often and attack. It is our duty as compassionate being to end the abuse and exploitation of pit bulls and you will see this "problem" stop.
I almost think that many Pit Bull haters refuse to blame the humans that abuse dogs (thus creating monsters) because Subconsciousally they fear guilt by association, because they are humans like the ones at fault.
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