Who else feeds RAW?

vanillasugar

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hmmmmm.... this is all very interesting. Naturally, my disclaimer is that I never saw the dog nor even heard of her until a brief post last night. After reading this post, I don't know if I would say the dog is allergic to animal proteins, rather there is an internal disorder that keeps her from being able to properly digest animal proteins. It could be pancreas or one of a multitude of other organs not functioning properly. I say that because in this post you indicated that skin problems etc went away on PMR but not the GI problems. I guess in the case of this one dog in the world, its a good thing she can at least digest vegetarian kibble without showing GI or allergy symptoms is great for her.

I will make just one more comment on her. I think that if the highly processed vegetarian kibble weren't available, she would die if she had to depend on unprocessed whole fruits and veggies to keep her alive.

Thanks for taking the time to explain all this to me.
Just to be nit-picky, you will see in my original post about her that I did not say she was allergic to meat ;) I do not doubt that she is highly allergic to a mulitiude of other things, but she is simply unable to properly process meat protein.

And absolutely, if it were in the wild, she wouldn't survive.

Glad to have explained it to the best of my memory.
 

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You have Mals, it's in the breed standard, right next to "brains optional--additional charge required." ;)
:rofl1::rofl1:

(Although the dog who is allergic to humans is a corgi. And he really is. Showed up in his allergy testing...positive for allergy to human dander.)
 
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Well BabyDane and RawFedDogs have convinced me . . . I have no desire to ever read a thread about feeding raw. Total turnoff.
If I was new here I would be totally with you, 100%.

But I KNOW there are lots of educated people on this board who DONT think they are gods gift to the earth and are happy to share their beliefs in a much much much nicer fashion.

Please dont ever read another post by these three new "zealots" who have joined... I dont plan to either... in time I guarantee they will be gone ;)

But dont be turned off all together to topics regarding food.
 

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Lmao, why is this going over like a bunch of zealots trying to convert us all to their religion?
Now, wherever did you get that idea?

I don't see a problem with telling people they are wrong and pointing out where and how they are wrong and showing them the truth.
You sound a lot like BabyDane when I first met her. :rofl1: After you listen long enough and see the logic behind what I say, you will feel different.
May I have a moment of your time to spread the good news about our lord and saviour, meat?
 

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If I was new here I would be totally with you, 100%.

But I KNOW there are lots of educated people on this board who DONT think they are gods gift to the earth and are happy to share their beliefs in a much much much nicer fashion.

Please dont ever read another post by these three new "zealots" who have joined... I dont plan to either... in time I guarantee they will be gone ;)

But dont be turned off all together to topics regarding food.
^^^ This.

Raw, like any other diet, comes with its pros and cons, but overall it can indeed be an excellent way to feed your dog if you have the time, space and dedication for it, and it works for you and your dog.
 
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:hail: :hail:

There is nothing AT ALL wrong with having YOUR OPINION........but ultimately, THAT is just exactly what it is, YOUR OPINION.
It's more than an opinion, the way we feed out dogs approximates as closely as we can what dogs/wolves have eaten since the beginning of time. It is the way nature intended them to eat. If that was not a fact they would have different teeth, mouths, stomachs, and intestines along with different pancreas and liver. This is not just something I made up. It is all provable fact.

Doesn't make anyone else "wrong" or you completely "right"
It does make me completely right but whether the other methods of feeding are wrong depends on how closely you want to feed your dogs the ideal food based on their biological makeup.

Not everyone agrees with you and the way you go about things won't convince a single person here.
If they don't agree with me, and many people don't, the let them come up with logical scientific reasons why they don't. So far I have yet to see any of that. All I see is criticisms of my methods of delivery of information, not the information itself. People don't like when I say things against their belief systems and hate it even more when they can't prove me wrong.

For example, I have asked many many times on various boards over 7 years for someone to tell me what needed nutrients a dog would get from fruits and/or veggies that isn't in the meat, bones, and organs of the prey animals that eat them. I have never gotten an answer.

A few years down the road you might find out how to do somethings differently than you do now........never know, science discovers and changes all the time.
I'll never say never but for the life of me, I can't imagine what that could be. Possibly it will be discovered some day in the far distant future that dogs really decended from cows and are herbivores, but I don't think that is very likely. :rofl1:

You might end up owning a dog yourself that needs something different than you do now, karma has a way of doing things like that ;)
Seriously, I don't think that dog exists.
 

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If they don't agree with me, and many people don't, the let them come up with logical scientific reasons why they don't. So far I have yet to see any of that. All I see is criticisms of my methods of delivery of information, not the information itself. People don't like when I say things against their belief systems and hate it even more when they can't prove me wrong.
Seriously?

:popcorn:
 

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Yeah, but your dogs won't be as happy. :D
*hands out bowls of kibble to dogs*
*watches them be exceedingly happy*
*enjoys that they are incredibly healthy*

*offers nyx a chicken back*
*watches nyx be miserable because she doesn't understand that it's food and is hungry and feels very frustrated over being unable to eat what is offered*
Yup, my dogs are less happy on kibble. :rolleyes:
 

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I just asked Xena. She's happy with her kibble. You can't tell me otherwise. I'm 100% right, so there.
 

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STOP pushing your beliefs on me... cake is BAD, it will cause you to die early... do you think the cavemen had cake?!
Yep, I think they did, and unless you can scientifically prove they didnt, Im right and your wrong!!!
 

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May I have a moment of your time to spread the good news about our lord and saviour, meat?
It really is like a religion tho...but I'm Atheist...so...am I truly Atheist if I believe in Meat? LOL :rofl1:

Actually yes...I have only seen a few people actually post up a good rebuttle contributing to the discussion, the others have either been too hurt to post or just said what they feed...which we don't bash them for.

Prove him wrong. That will make both sides look more credible.

Let him be the "raw fed god" he thinks he is, he's a legend in his own mind :rofl1:
That is classic. I think that is what I will call him from now on, but not in a mean way, but in a haha funny way :lol-sign:

Please dont ever read another post by these three new "zealots" who have joined... I dont plan to either... in time I guarantee they will be gone ;)
Now that is just plain mean :(

Actually...I plan on sticking around, even though you and a few others don't welcome us or the way we post up :cool:

Have you noticed that RFD and I have not turned nasty towards you the way that you have to for bashing the way that we post? :confused:

It really does suck that people don't see it as being confident, but not mean...but rather arrogant. Instead of getting mad and hurt...post up a rebuttle to the debate in your own confidence. That will make you more credible in this whole thing.
 

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Confident is not the same as arrogant. If you have received a half dozen posts telling you you're coming across as arrogant, I suggest you consider that you are being arrogant--not confident as you seem to believe.

I feed kibble, because it contains enough nutrition to keep my dog happy, healthy, and fit. She looks phenomenal on it. She has more energy than I know what to do with, and she loves her kibble so much I can use it as treats and she'll still go nuts for it.

I tried raw for a week (not long enough for a full transition, I know), but she was pooping straight liquid (and couldn't hold it in to make it outside), throwing up, and was lethargic/bleh for the whole week. My husband finally told me I needed to stop, because it wasn't fair to her or us. If we need to go through 2-3 months of that to fully acclimate her to a raw diet, there is no way she will ever eat raw! It just doesn't seem worth it to me--even if it is slightly better (and I happen to think premium kibbles don't need much improvement), I'm not going to make my dog suffer for 3 months for that minimal improvement. I don't think that will make my dog "happier" in any way!
 

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Actually...I plan on sticking around, even though you and a few others don't welcome us or the way we post up :cool:
I am glad to hear this! 1.) I don't personally find YOUR posts offensive :) and 2.) I LOVE the danes in your avatar, LOL

Have you noticed that RFD and I have not turned nasty towards you the way that you have to for bashing the way that we post? :confused:
Depends on what you call nasty I guess. When RFD states HE is right and everyone else is wrong, I consider that nasty *shrugs* When zoom posted links that went against HIS "personal beliefs" he shrugged them off and still reiterated he was completely right and everyone else was still wrong.......*chuckles* It's all opinion and decisions of individuals no matter what his OPINION may be on the subject, LOL

It really does suck that people don't see it as being confident, but not mean...but rather arrogant. Instead of getting mad and hurt...post up a rebuttle to the debate in your own confidence. That will make you more credible in this whole thing.
People don't see it as "confidence" when someone with an *OPINION* states THEIR opinion is right and other OPINIONS are wrong. They see that as being arrogant ........plain and simple.

(you will notice my use of the word OPINION because no matter what he thinks, it's all speculation as nobody ACTUALLY knows where dogs came from, what their diet was, and how evolution has affected them........all opinion and speculation ;))
 

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