Don't use a shampoo that contains a conditioner if you want to keep a hard coat. We do this for Terriers (especially ones going to a show) and the Newf's etc we don't use a shampoo with conditioner especially if they are going to a show. There are times for conditioners but not that often on some coats, most times we have a conditioner in a spray bottle for spot on treatments. We have also groomed Collie's day before a show and kept proper coat.