Where's The Abuse?

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Please tell me what's so inhumane about dressing up dogs or carrying them around in carriers?

I don't use carriers, but I don't see nothing wrong with people who do. I see myself putting up a defensive mechanism when I put my dog in one only for pics, because I know how people get on the whole topic and might think ''omg you're another one of those paris hilton dog people''.....What if I did use them? I don't think that makes me a paris hilton wannabe and I treat my dogs like 'items', because I do use them.

They're really niffty things for taking dogs on subways, ect where dogs need to be contained and without the worry of beinging stepped on. If the place allows it, sure....if the place doesn't allow it, then I do understand why people get upset, that small dog owners get away with things like this. But some places say its perfectly fine if the dog is in a carrier/stroller. And please don't assume, because the dog is in a carrier, it never gets walk. That's not in ALL cases. Responsible and irresponsible owners use them. Doesn't make responsible owners terrible for using them. I do think the responsible dog owners who happen to use them know their dogs have the ability to walk. So when someone says 'dogs have feet, they're meant for walking', IMO if it were said to me and if I used a carrier, I would think it was offensive to my knowledge on dogs and as a dog owner, because obviously I never knew dogs were not snakes and had feet for a reason.

I put clothes on my dogs. But I don't see it an more different than people who buy designed collars for their dogs, except it covers more than the dogs' neck. I'm aware they have fur. I'm not overdressing them though. If its too hot outside, then they wouldn't have any business outside in the first place. But if its a nice day outside, I don't see an problem with me putting clothes on them if A:they don't mind and B:its not hurting them.

They LOVE when I take their clothes out, because they know they'll going somewhere. They can't wait to put them on, and the never once try and take it off or bite at it, nothing of that nature. If my dog didn't like putting clothes on or tried to take them off, I wouldn't put it on them. They don't do head gear, so I don't do hats, sunglasses, only for photo sessions. But Pepe didn't mind his santa hat though. My dogs wear clothes for almost every outing. Inside they're butt-nekkid. Not even as much as an collars or harness on.

But why, because I choose to put clothes on my dogs, some people have the nerve to tell me, why don't you have kids if you want to put clothes on a dog and go all peta on me. Seriously a dog and a baby are too different things. I can 'baby' my dog, but I can't 'dog' my baby. I can't leave a baby in crate while I'm at school or have it housetrained by 8wks. old. ;)

Some people really need to focus on some more serious issues. If the really think THIS is dog abuse, they really don't know what abuse it. I do know most people are extreme with 'humanizing' a dog, but that is not the case for everyone who does these things. :rolleyes:

One day I would like to post something without 'no my dog does not live in his carrier' and 'yes the do get exercise' or 'no my dogs don't wear clothes 24/7'.....or 'it wasn't below freezing temperatures that I had to put clothes on my dogs'

I do understand the differences though between spoiling them, and spoiling them rotten to the point where they never step on solid ground. That is cruel. Carriers and clothes, umm no. Unless the dog does not like it and your dog is soley a fashion item to you and that's the only reason you own a dog. I own a dogs, not because I could put clothes on them, I can be my own fashion statement. But why can't my dogs be as fashionable as me? Am I so wrong for doing so? Or are some people overreacting a bit too much on these issues?

A person can think its silly, but its not for me. Don't like it? Don't dress up your dogs or put them in carriers, but why should you tell me what I can and cannot do with my dogs, because you happen to think dressing up dogs/putting them in carriers is 'silly'?


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I don't think there's anything wrong with dressing dogs up but, like you said, it should be within reason.

I HATE the people who treat their dogs as fashion accessories. I recently saw an ad "I got a retriever pup but now it's too big to carry around in my purse so I want to trade it for a smaller pup". Stuff like that makes my blood boil.

My smaller dogs wear sweaters in the winter time when we go outside but for the most part I don't dress them up.
 

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I honestly don't like to see dogs dressed up too much. It just looks horrible to me, and a lot of the small dogs I see seem to hate some of their chlothes! Like male dogs with pants. Makes me wonder how they pee in those. That's just......um.......ewy to clean up I'm sure! But as long as the dog isn't overheating or actually suffering from it, to each their own I guess. I just don't like to see it too much. Especially when it gets to the point of a ton of jewelery etc. that's just overdoing it IMO.

The purses, I do NOT like those, the ones where the dogs legs are sticking out the bottom. WTF? If you want to carry your dog, fine. Carry it, but don't swing it around like a purse! There's just no point in those IMHO.


Though I wouldn't necessarily call those abuse, I just don't like to see it too much.
 

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I totally agree with bnwalker.

Nothing wrong with dressing them and carrying around as long as they don't mind, they're getting sufficient exercise and don't spend 8 hours a day in a purse, and you're not using them as a fashion accessory.
 
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I find myself saying this way too often these days BUT, once more...

BRAVO JUICY!

well stated.
 

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What did dogs do before carrier bags and strollers? Uhm, they walked. God gave them legs for a reason.

Now, I don't really mind if people do use carriers and strollers and dress their dogs up like dolls, whatever floats their boats.. but I do think that all of these can be taken to an extreme level and it can be considered abuse. Doesn't mean that all owners of "froo-froo" type dogs do it, but it does happen and it's sad.
 
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Nothing wrong with it in my mind. As long as they are still treated like DOGS, and are given proper exercise. Dogs are not fashion statements. I can see where a purse or stroller would come into play if you take your dog into a public building that otherwise, wouldn't allow dogs. Its good for the dog to be taken places and socialized as much as possible. I put reggin in a stroller and took him to the mall once a week to help him get used to different situations and people (back when he was a baby). It did help, a lot. And then he grew out of it. LOL. So whats the big deal?
 
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If people want to talk crap about a prissy dog all dressed up in ruffles, well excuse me, but that HUGE spiked collar hanging around your macho dog doesn't look too humane either. :rolleyes:

Not directed at anyone, lol. I've just seen people be quite hypocritical. ;)
 

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If people want to talk crap about a prissy dog all dressed up in ruffles, well excuse me, but that HUGE spiked collar hanging around your macho dog doesn't look too humane either. :rolleyes:

Not directed at anyone, lol. I've just seen people be quite hypocritical. ;)
Actually, I see both of the pretty much the same. I was going to compare the two, but thought I better not, just to save me some yelling at. :p

But yeah, pretty much, to me, it's the same thing. One is for the "macho" look and the other is for the "foofoo" look. So both bother me a bit. But again, as long as the dog isn't being hurt, to each their own. And that goes for both. I don't like seeing it, but it isn't what I'd consider abuse at all, as long as the dog isn't overheating or weighed down to the point of physical harm that is ;)
 

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What did dogs do before carrier bags and strollers? Uhm, they walked. God gave them legs for a reason.

Now, I don't really mind if people do use carriers and strollers and dress their dogs up like dolls, whatever floats their boats.. but I do think that all of these can be taken to an extreme level and it can be considered abuse. Doesn't mean that all owners of "froo-froo" type dogs do it, but it does happen and it's sad.
Well if someone is an outdoorsy type of person and owns a fro-fro dog goes on a hike with their dogs. I think it'll be abuse once the dog gets tired that the owner keeps pushing the dog to keep on hiking like if the dog had the same activity level as a bigger dog, if its the case with that dog, because some smaller dogs are more active. But I don't see nothing ''sad'' about the owner having a tote bag to carry the dog in for the rest of the hike. Now before strollers/carriers......they would be left home alone and not enjoy a good hike day, because their inability to keep up.

Or you go to an outing and don't want to leave the dog alone in the house or whatever. Now I think most every dog owner knows in outings you're going to run into some situations where its not so dog-friendly and people are going to either step on your dog, kids are going to come up to it and pet it, and some people that are not fond about dogs as you are. Even with family outings sometimes too. A carrier is a great useage here, where people don't even notice you have a dog and the dog isn't among the chaos. Now before?...they would be left out and stayed at home. Some people are as attached to their dogs as dogs to them. Reason why some people get smller breeds other thn getting a lrger breed due to unforunately they're not allowed in many plces and don't have carrier bags their size :yikes:

My biggest example is New York subways. Unlike Florida they're allowed in public transportations and sometimes subways are some people only choice to transport their dogs to some place like the vets or to go with them to their friends/reltive house. Carriers are EXCELLENT for subwys, because they're not allowed in them otherwise, even on a leash.
 

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I agree, not something I would do, but as long as the dogs don't mind and they get enough exercise and normal dog activity time then I'm not totally against it.

One thing that does irk me is to see double coated breeds wearing clothing in the summer and panting like crazy. That's ridiculous. And like today when I saw a girl walking around Wal-mart with a dog in her purse. I had half a mind to run to my friends house and grab her boxer to walk around the store, just to make a point, but I figured the girl would be gone before I got back. I did say something to her though.
 

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I agree, not something I would do, but as long as the dogs don't mind and they get enough exercise and normal dog activity time then I'm not totally against it.

One thing that does irk me is to see double coated breeds wearing clothing in the summer and panting like crazy. That's ridiculous. And like today when I saw a girl walking around Wal-mart with a dog in her purse. I had half a mind to run to my friends house and grab her boxer to walk around the store, just to make a point, but I figured the girl would be gone before I got back. I did say something to her though.
^ That bugs me a lot. I hate seeing dogs/cats in stores that carry food. It's disgusting. I don't want your dog around my food, period. It says "NO PETS" on the doors for a reason. It does NOT say "NO PETS unless in carriers!"
 

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If people want to talk crap about a prissy dog all dressed up in ruffles, well excuse me, but that HUGE spiked collar hanging around your macho dog doesn't look too humane either. :rolleyes:

Not directed at anyone, lol. I've just seen people be quite hypocritical. ;)
I think as long as the spiked collar isn't hurting the dog and isn't heavy...like that one guy who you posted had a padlock on the chain and the chain must of been like who knows how much weight, that is wrong.

Like overdressing a dog, same goes to dogs with heavy chins.

I don't mind that people have chain/spiked collars on dogs giving them that 'bada$s look'...as long as its lightweight and isn't pinching the dog.

I'm material, they're gangsta....most likely the dogs are going to be in 'your' lifestyle too.

They name their dog Capone, I name mines Valentino.

But though I don't like having scuff my shoes, my dogs love to get dirty. They get into mud, and I don't deprive them of their fun, because 'dirt' isn't my thing. But best believe they get cleaned afterwards. Nothing wrong with that.

Like a person with OCD might wipe their dogs feet everytime they enter or comb their hair with excatly 100 strokes, you might think thts ludacris....but what's a person to do, if thts 'their thing?'
 

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Actually, I see both of the pretty much the same. I was going to compare the two, but thought I better not, just to save me some yelling at. :p

But yeah, pretty much, to me, it's the same thing. One is for the "macho" look and the other is for the "foofoo" look. So both bother me a bit. But again, as long as the dog isn't being hurt, to each their own. And that goes for both. I don't like seeing it, but it isn't what I'd consider abuse at all, as long as the dog isn't overheating or weighed down to the point of physical harm that is ;)
What about the macho 'froofroo' look?





You knew Beau's spiked collar and gangsta hoodie was coming. xD

I agree, Juicy. People need to fry bigger fish.

Beau loves to put on clothes, no idea why. The others don't... Summer doesn't mind, but Rose hates it. Anyways, I think dressing Beau up every now and then for photo shoots is funny!
 

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I'm not a fan of dogs being dressed up but whatever rocks your boat! I wouldn't call it abusive unless it's taken to the extreme. If the clothes hinder the dogs ability to move or see then, no, not a good idea imo. Although, in cold weather, I imagine some clothes come in handy!
 

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What about the macho 'froofroo' look?





You knew Beau's spiked collar and gangsta hoodie was coming. xD

I agree, Juicy. People need to fry bigger fish.

Beau loves to put on clothes, no idea why. The others don't... Summer doesn't mind, but Rose hates it. Anyways, I think dressing Beau up every now and then for photo shoots is funny!
I think sweatshirts on dogs with thin fur can look very cute! Sweaters and things I do think look cute sometimes, depending on what it is on! lol Like that hoodie I think looks cute on him. ;)

I just don't like when people overdue it, the froofroo look really isn't my thing. Either is the macho look.

I see nothing wrong with dressing your dog up a little sometimes, but when it's almost every day, with a ton of stuff all over them, it's just.....icky. I hate that look. It always looks horrible to me. Tube tops for bitches? ew! I hate those skirts. The jewelery is disgusting too. I just hate the look.

But again, as long as the dog isn't suffering, to each their own. I just won't be coming over telling your dog how cute it is in it's dress. And yes, I cringe everytime I see them, cause it's just so icky looking to me. But I try not to make it obvious, I just can't help it. It's so ugly (imho)!
 

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One thing that does irk me is to see double coated breeds wearing clothing in the summer and panting like crazy.
My dogs wear the clothes out all year round. They actually have summertime outfits. I walk them in the late-afternoon time so they don't get overheated, even in the summertime the sun isn't that brutal if you walk them during that time. Clothes or not double coated breeds if the temperature is high, they're going to pant like crazy if the owner walks them late-morning/early-afternoon time. I know with work, some people can't do late-afternoon, so I see some chow and husky people walk their dogs early morning like 5-6am, when its still cool.

But are you just talking about walking or going out in general? Even if its going out, same rules apply for double coated breeds or any breed really, too hot, stay inside.
 

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I think sweatshirts on dogs with thin fur can look very cute! Sweaters and things I do think look cute sometimes, depending on what it is on! lol Like that hoodie I think looks cute on him. ;)

I just don't like when people overdue it, the froofroo look really isn't my thing. Either is the macho look.

I see nothing wrong with dressing your dog up a little sometimes, but when it's almost every day, with a ton of stuff all over them, it's just.....icky. I hate that look. It always looks horrible to me. Tube tops for bitches? ew! I hate those skirts. The jewelery is disgusting too. I just hate the look.

But again, as long as the dog isn't suffering, to each their own. I just won't be coming over telling your dog how cute it is in it's dress. And yes, I cringe everytime I see them, cause it's just so icky looking to me. But I try not to make it obvious, I just can't help it. It's so ugly (imho)!
Well, we don't have any dresses. I just dress them up as a joke every now ant then. (And send them to the breeder, who is then horrified by the 'puppy abuse' lol) The spiked collar/hoodie was too funny to resist.
 

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My dogs wear the clothes out all year round. They actually have summertime outfits. I walk them in the late-afternoon time so they don't get overheated, even in the summertime the sun isn't that brutal if you walk them during that time. Clothes or not double coated breeds if the temperature is high, they're going to pant like crazy if the owner walks them late-morning/early-afternoon time. I know with work, some people can't do late-afternoon, so I see some chow and husky people walk their dogs early morning like 5-6am, when its still cool.

But are you just talking about walking or going out in general? Even if its going out, same rules apply for double coated breeds or any breed really, too hot, stay inside.
No, double coated breeds get overheated faster than single coated breeds, especially when covered in layers of chlothes!

If it's hot enough that your dog is panting "like crazy" why make it worse by putting on chlothes on the dog just for you entertainment? That, I think, would be a horrible thing for an owner to do. It's not abuse, but still, it's not very considerate either.
 

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Well, we don't have any dresses. I just dress them up as a joke every now ant then. (And send them to the breeder, who is then horrified by the 'puppy abuse' lol) The spiked collar/hoodie was too funny to resist.
LOL your poor breeder! She must've been horrified!! :D ;) :rofl1:
 

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