I realize I am late in joining this post and am off subject a bit, but as you know from previous posts, I try to do my homework so I feel like I know who I'm speaking to, if my advise is appropriate, ect. Cindr... after reading your posts, I was confused and I know it's easily cleared up so, here goes. You said you own a training center K-9 Dogs 4 You, so does Deb Meloche. You own Miss Fritzy, she owns Miss Fritz. (Litter mates) You are starting a program, "sponsor a kid, train a dog", so is she. You own 2 GSDs' and a Dobie, so does she. You have a rescue Dogo, she has a Dogo and is currently looking for a stud service. Deb Meloche advertises GSD's, Dobies, french bulldog, english bulldog, Min. Pin. Golden ret. Maltese, Lab and Pugs for sale and is looking to breed Dogos. (Someone having made a comment about how these 9 different dogs for sale are certainly a lot.) Do you two just own the training center together? I too, was concerned to see how many dogs were for sale by this person, and thought you might clear that up. Not to insult you, (or she) I just like to know who I'm talking to (as best I can considering it's the internet. Lol ) Have a nice evening.
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Hi yes I am Deb Meloche and I own 3 dogs. We did have a Dogo and we placed her 3 weeks ago. We were going to breed her although could not find a sutable male. We found a wonderful home for her and now again we are down to 3 adult dogs. We do train, we groom and we assist others to place their dogs. Now these people that we assist are reputable breeders. As you know I would not accept anything less.
I take the time to assist both sides of the coin, the purchaser and the breeder in placing these dogs avail. It is important to us that we work together rather than against each other. If I make $50.00 to help either party I am happy. So yes I am trying to do my best with all areas concerned and to be honest with you tired of the weardo's that you meet out there. Let it be purchasers and or breeders. So why do it? Who knows I think I like to bash my self everyonce in awhile. :lol-sign:
I take the time to assist both sides of the coin, the purchaser and the breeder in placing these dogs avail. It is important to us that we work together rather than against each other. If I make $50.00 to help either party I am happy. So yes I am trying to do my best with all areas concerned and to be honest with you tired of the weardo's that you meet out there. Let it be purchasers and or breeders. So why do it? Who knows I think I like to bash my self everyonce in awhile. :lol-sign:
Well, my guys came to me... Roxy all the choice I was given was male or female, clearly I chose female.
Hades, well, I "had the choice" between him and Mercedes. Which one I would keep, and I chose Hades because he was a male. To get along with Roxy.
Now, what I'm "looking for". I've recently been leaning towards waiting much longer than first expected for my other dog.
What: Beauceron/Rottweiler
Why: Obedience work/possibly SchH or FR sport
Where: Reputable breeder
Hades, well, I "had the choice" between him and Mercedes. Which one I would keep, and I chose Hades because he was a male. To get along with Roxy.
Now, what I'm "looking for". I've recently been leaning towards waiting much longer than first expected for my other dog.
What: Beauceron/Rottweiler
Why: Obedience work/possibly SchH or FR sport
Where: Reputable breeder
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I love Tucker, don't get me wrong... But he's not what I want for my next dog.
What:
Probably a herding breed os some sort, not yet decided.
Why:
I just want a dog who is drivey, and enjoys work. A little bit of protection is a bonus as well. Pretty active-active.
Where:
A reputable breeder.
~Tucker
What:
Probably a herding breed os some sort, not yet decided.
Why:
I just want a dog who is drivey, and enjoys work. A little bit of protection is a bonus as well. Pretty active-active.
Where:
A reputable breeder.
~Tucker
What?
A male Cavalier King Charles Spaniel (that is not the breed I'd really want but I think it's a good second choice for a first-time dog owner; my top choice would be a Flatcoated Retriever, however I don't feel I can properly house such an active dog atm.)
Where?
Reputable breeders somewhere nearby so I can go for multiple visits before bringing the puppy home.
What do I expect?
Friendly towards everyone
Loyalty
Confident
Intelligent
Gets along well with other animals
Fairly active, able to do agility & obedience (for fun, not competition)
A male Cavalier King Charles Spaniel (that is not the breed I'd really want but I think it's a good second choice for a first-time dog owner; my top choice would be a Flatcoated Retriever, however I don't feel I can properly house such an active dog atm.)
Where?
Reputable breeders somewhere nearby so I can go for multiple visits before bringing the puppy home.
What do I expect?
Friendly towards everyone
Loyalty
Confident
Intelligent
Gets along well with other animals
Fairly active, able to do agility & obedience (for fun, not competition)
My next dog is going to be a rescue...unless something changes where I would want to show a dog, then rescuing makes me feel good, knowing that you gave a dog that might not have it the best possible life. Plus Im addicted to mutts.
The breed will probably be a pit mix, one of the bully breeds. There are SOO many in shelters around here. It will probably be a female and a puppy or young, so I can raise it the way I like. I do feel bad for older dogs in shelters, and not to say I wouldnt ever get an older dog, but especially w/ the bully breeds I would prefer a younger pup.
The breed will probably be a pit mix, one of the bully breeds. There are SOO many in shelters around here. It will probably be a female and a puppy or young, so I can raise it the way I like. I do feel bad for older dogs in shelters, and not to say I wouldnt ever get an older dog, but especially w/ the bully breeds I would prefer a younger pup.
C
You were going to breed a rescue dog?
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No I was not going to breed a rescue dog. I did take the dog in for training and the owners did not want her back. So with her breeding back ground had we found a male we would have bred her. But there were no good dogs around. She is much happier with the new owners anyhow
[/QUOTNo I was not going to breed a rescue dog. I did take the dog in for training and the owners did not want her back. So with her breeding back ground had we found a male we would have bred her. But there were no good dogs around. She is much happier with the new owners anyhow
What?
Belgian shepherd -- likely just groenendael, but maybe a terv one day.
Where
A reputable breeder. The next puppy I'm getting outside my lines I'm importing from Domaine Ponti in Belgium. I don't think I will get a pup outside of my lines otherwise, but if for whatever reason I do, there are very few breeders I'd go to.
What do I expect?
Friendliness towards everything --- nothing shy or aggressive
Nerves of steel -- nothing sharp
High energy and athletic ability
Quiet
Calm indoors
Medium well-controlled drive
Eagerness to please
Solid and stable, good temperment
Beautiful conformation
Belgian shepherd -- likely just groenendael, but maybe a terv one day.
Where
A reputable breeder. The next puppy I'm getting outside my lines I'm importing from Domaine Ponti in Belgium. I don't think I will get a pup outside of my lines otherwise, but if for whatever reason I do, there are very few breeders I'd go to.
What do I expect?
Friendliness towards everything --- nothing shy or aggressive
Nerves of steel -- nothing sharp
High energy and athletic ability
Quiet
Calm indoors
Medium well-controlled drive
Eagerness to please
Solid and stable, good temperment
Beautiful conformation
What- Irish Wolfhound
Where- USA
Who-From a well known, responsible breeder who has been breeding Irish Wolfhounds for 10yrs +
What do I expect- For me... I expect the breeder to quiz me on everything from why I want an Wolfhound, what makes me think I should have one, to the smallest detail as to where the Wolfhound will sleep... and then I expect to be put on a waiting list.
For the Wolfhound- I expect a good strong pup. A good background and a guarantee from the breeder that if I should have trouble with my pup that I can give him/her a call and they will be there for me.
Where- USA
Who-From a well known, responsible breeder who has been breeding Irish Wolfhounds for 10yrs +
What do I expect- For me... I expect the breeder to quiz me on everything from why I want an Wolfhound, what makes me think I should have one, to the smallest detail as to where the Wolfhound will sleep... and then I expect to be put on a waiting list.
For the Wolfhound- I expect a good strong pup. A good background and a guarantee from the breeder that if I should have trouble with my pup that I can give him/her a call and they will be there for me.
You were going to breed a rescue dog?
seems to be youre a bit disingenuous to let people talk about your dogs and your breeding program and have you discuss them without admitting thats who you are.
quite frankly, i see a ton of excuses and not a lot of doing.
and to top it off, your listings (even if you are listing for someone else) - has an 18 month old dobe male up for stud.
18 months?
and hes BLUE?
come on, the gig is up. go sell stupid somewhere else.
You were going to breed a rescue dog?
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No I was not going to breed a rescue dog. I did take the dog in for training and the owners did not want her back. So with her breeding back ground had we found a male we would have bred her. But there were no good dogs around. She is much happier with the new owners anyhow
[/QUOTNo I was not going to breed a rescue dog. I did take the dog in for training and the owners did not want her back. So with her breeding back ground had we found a male we would have bred her. But there were no good dogs around. She is much happier with the new owners anyhow
same excuse yuckaduck used, right? at first it was a rescue from a horrible situation, then all of a sudden she was breeding it and it wasnt a rescue anymore.
what about the lab that they had and were breeding?
yukon isn't even 2 years old and has been advertised at stud for a long time.
what health testing has he had?
and how convenient that the male she has in house will be bred to both of her bitches.
and she WOULD have a link about why hip testing is worthless.
if she hasnt had any litters, why did she post here last month that glory was due?
some things never change. i see the labs arent even on her website anymore.
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Now this is really funny!!:lol-sign: How is it that I have stated my name and my location to everyone here? To be recognised as a duck? Or that as yuck a duck?
Yes there seemed to be a few issues i noticed in that area although those issues were beteen you and yuck a duck not me. So if you would like to get your fax straight then we can start and not untill.
Remember this is your issue not mine. So if you wish to think I am yuck a duck go ahead. I will be laughing all the way to the bank with that one. Why cause that is a rich thought. No pun intended.
I have nothing to hide and have not hidden anything here at any time so if you have a greivence with yuck a duck. Please feel free to go find her. Cause she is not here. thanx Deb Ako cindr :lol-sign:
As well if you are trying to discredit me? Honey it ain't gona work! Why because yuck a duck would argue with you. I won't! So if you happen to find yuck a duck some where please say hi for me! Thanx
Yes there seemed to be a few issues i noticed in that area although those issues were beteen you and yuck a duck not me. So if you would like to get your fax straight then we can start and not untill.
Remember this is your issue not mine. So if you wish to think I am yuck a duck go ahead. I will be laughing all the way to the bank with that one. Why cause that is a rich thought. No pun intended.
I have nothing to hide and have not hidden anything here at any time so if you have a greivence with yuck a duck. Please feel free to go find her. Cause she is not here. thanx Deb Ako cindr :lol-sign:
As well if you are trying to discredit me? Honey it ain't gona work! Why because yuck a duck would argue with you. I won't! So if you happen to find yuck a duck some where please say hi for me! Thanx
jesus, can you read english? you wrote " i believe deb owns" -
why would you have to "believe" - are you not her? yes you DID hide who you were, by speaking of deb as if she were a third person and NOT YOURSELF.
where did i ever say you were yuckaduck? i never accused you of being heather auger.
is english your first language?
why would you have to "believe" - are you not her? yes you DID hide who you were, by speaking of deb as if she were a third person and NOT YOURSELF.
where did i ever say you were yuckaduck? i never accused you of being heather auger.
is english your first language?
Nobody's trying to discredit you, it's more of a "Once bitten, twice shy" thing, I think.
Do you need the url for Heather's forum then? I don't have it, but I think several here do and belong. Maybe you could ask for somebody to PM it to you?
I'm not sure what's going on, who you are, whatever. I do know that "Yuckaduck" is either still here or lurks. Not sure why, nor do I care. Sometimes things should just be let go, kwim?
Dishonesty on the internet is nothing new. Live and Learn.
Do you need the url for Heather's forum then? I don't have it, but I think several here do and belong. Maybe you could ask for somebody to PM it to you?
I'm not sure what's going on, who you are, whatever. I do know that "Yuckaduck" is either still here or lurks. Not sure why, nor do I care. Sometimes things should just be let go, kwim?
Dishonesty on the internet is nothing new. Live and Learn.
C
Hey I just know what was said. (you believe? you stated you are her! Why not admidt it rather than playing games!)
Sounds like you were believing that I was Heather Auger. That's why I stated what I did. I am not her at all. I have nothing to hide. But I just thought I would straighten that one out.
Heather had:
Labs at one time, why she liked the breeds, she did the best by them but after talking to me about it. She came to a conclusion to focus on one breed as to her breeding program. So she sold the dogs. Good choice for her:
Yukon; Well he is a nice dog and she has a trainer now that she is working with. She is taking the initutive to become more educacted, Good For her:
Glory: Yes she did breed the dog but no pups hey it happens so all evaluations are done. The dog is fine and she is now training her as well.
Ava: 5 months old enroled in Ob and socialization class. Starting off in the right direction. Another good for her.
Heather is just like anyone else that starts out in the dog world. Mind you she did have an attitude and to be honest it was hers to have. So given the time that I have taken to assist with the restructures to her new faciltity and the attitude as to training understanding and breeding of her dogs. Then I have to give her a A for the change.
Everyone starts off in their own directions what they think they should do and how to do it. We all have to learn by our mistakes and to be honest with you it is not up to me and or you to judge.
So If I missunderstood what you had said I appoligise for that. It seems aweful funny that the comments were made at all. Anyhow I am done with it and will go no further with it at all.
Sounds like you were believing that I was Heather Auger. That's why I stated what I did. I am not her at all. I have nothing to hide. But I just thought I would straighten that one out.
Heather had:
Labs at one time, why she liked the breeds, she did the best by them but after talking to me about it. She came to a conclusion to focus on one breed as to her breeding program. So she sold the dogs. Good choice for her:
Yukon; Well he is a nice dog and she has a trainer now that she is working with. She is taking the initutive to become more educacted, Good For her:
Glory: Yes she did breed the dog but no pups hey it happens so all evaluations are done. The dog is fine and she is now training her as well.
Ava: 5 months old enroled in Ob and socialization class. Starting off in the right direction. Another good for her.
Heather is just like anyone else that starts out in the dog world. Mind you she did have an attitude and to be honest it was hers to have. So given the time that I have taken to assist with the restructures to her new faciltity and the attitude as to training understanding and breeding of her dogs. Then I have to give her a A for the change.
Everyone starts off in their own directions what they think they should do and how to do it. We all have to learn by our mistakes and to be honest with you it is not up to me and or you to judge.
So If I missunderstood what you had said I appoligise for that. It seems aweful funny that the comments were made at all. Anyhow I am done with it and will go no further with it at all.