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You sure about that? I'm a meanie who just loves to give my pups hugs! :D And make them do "embarasing" tricks :yikes: Scary!! And sometimes I even......*looks around.......*whispers* make them wear costumes!!!! lol :D
Hey that sound so cool I remember taking my Teka and my Jake to our local Festival. Now Teka was wearing a dress, and Jake was wearing a jogging suit. You should have seen the looks we received!:lol-sign:

Especially from the Sergent and the Deputy Cheif of Police!!!!!!!!!!

We all had a load of fun and that was all that counts
 

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Well when I got Elle I wanted a loving dog, I was heartbroken over the lose of my last dog. Of course, I made sure I went to a rebutable breeder so the pup would be healthy, but all I was looking for was LOVE.

When I got Bella, i wanted a friend for Elle to help her seperation anxiety. Well Bella's seperation anxiety is even worse! LOL.

:) Elissa
 

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What: Female Fila Brasileiro

Where: Meh, if I had my choice it'd be within 100 miles of where I live, but with this breed it's not exactly possible.

Who: At this point, I think it'll be Dawna Berg of Eshabeta II. When I check out her facilities, if the quality of her dogs or their living arrangements isn't as good as I expect it to be, I will go elsewhere for a pup.

What I expect: From a puppy, I just expect a healthy, happy pup. Dawna would help me pick one out if I couldn't be there to do so. If I could be picky about color and markings, I'd love a a fawn or brindle with a big black mask, black ears and a little bit of white on the chest.
As the pup matures I'd like a smaller (under 130lbs) attentive, reserved dog with a loving personality. I'd like her to respond well to training (preferably be a "chow hound") and affection. I would like a quiet, fearless, watchful dog that could go anywhere with me and still be fiercely protective when the situation is appropriate. I'd want a Fila that will be polite to our friends and strangers that we invite into the house. Doesn't have to be friendly and lovey with them, just politely aloof. I want a velcro dog that will stay by my side whenever possible. I expect the dog to live peacefully with all of us. I expect the dog to be gentle and tolerant of me, my other dogs and the people I live with. I don't want to see aggression to family members, EVER.

I don't want a super hard individual that is highly aggressive and difficult to control, but at the same time I don't want a super soft dog that will shy away from "scary" things. Meh. I'm picky, especially about temperament, but I'm sure that with the help of a responsible, experienced breeder I can find the right pup for me. :)

But, with all the time I spend with shelter dogs, I just may find my "soulmate" there. I've already come across one dog that really just spoke to me, she was so gentle and shy. Horribly abused, but still very loving. I regret each day that I wasn't able to adopt her. I definitely understand that look; there are some dogs that I'm just drawn to. Usually they are plain as can be (I have a thing for big black dogs) but their eyes tell me all I need to know about them.
 

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Hey that sound so cool I remember taking my Teka and my Jake to our local Festival. Now Teka was wearing a dress, and Jake was wearing a jogging suit. You should have seen the looks we received!:lol-sign:

Especially from the Sergent and the Deputy Cheif of Police!!!!!!!!!!

We all had a load of fun and that was all that counts
LOL that's so true! All that counts is the fun we have! :D lol
 

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What?

German shepherd for work!

Where

I try to deal with reputable breeder's only

Who?

There are two people I would really be interested in doing business with in Ontario.
#1} Deb Meloche....a lady in Amhurstberg, Ontario. Awesome dogs and awesome abilities.
#2} Marc Auger.....his female came from Deb; I love the male's intensity and high drives. Just waiting to see what type of quality comes out as they are just starting out. They have got my attention though.

What do I expect?

Strong drives
Nerves of Steel
Healthy
Good working quality
Isn't Marc Auger's wife the one who used to post here about their "breeding program" that consisted of untested, untitled, and unregistered dogs?

Sorry, that whole program has too many question marks around it to be what I'd consider a reliable breeder.
 

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Isn't Marc Auger's wife the one who used to post here about their "breeding program" that consisted of untested, untitled, and unregistered dogs?

Sorry, that whole program has too many question marks around it to be what I'd consider a reliable breeder.


I don't know if Marc's wife posted here or not.

I do know that the dogs are registered, are tested for hips/elbows/cerf and many others. I also know that the references that Marc provides from vets, trainers and other breeders is extremely impressive.

Me personally, I look for police service type dogs, therefore titles mean zip to me. I am not sure what type of title you are looking for in this situation. I certainly would walk away from sport titles in a second; show titles are great for a show dog, not what I look for!

Notice the titles Deb Meloche's dogs have? None, but the pedigree is full of dogs doing the actual work. This is what I look for in my selection process.

Now I cannot defend or degrade the breeding program as the first litter will be on the ground in March from them. I have a deposit on that litter, because I want to see what comes out and like I said they have my attention.

Once I get a pup and get it going {about 18 months to 2 years from now} then I can tell exactly what type of quality or lack of; whichever the case may be they produce.
 

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Your comments sound exactly like those yuckaduck used to make.

How can a dog under 2 years old be certified for hips and elbows? Why are they breeding a dog that is so far out of the breed standard that they themselves say he can't be used for police work?

What is "level 1 protection"?
 
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Your comments sound exactly like those yuckaduck used to make.

How can a dog under 2 years old be certified for hips and elbows? Why are they breeding a dog that is so far out of the breed standard that they themselves say he can't be used for police work?

What is "level 1 protection"?
Hi it all depends on what country the dog is being certified from. I know that in the Usa the dogs will or can not be certified until the age of two. Canada they certify at 18 months. So it is a complicated avenue when you are dicussing certifications.

Now as far as the breeder trainer D. Meloche she has dogs that are certified in all aspects hips/elbow's/shoulders as well as the eye's are cleared prior to all and any breeding. Her dogs hold Sch 1 2 3 kkkl titles in the lineage, Cd, cdx and tdx as well, Yes most of the dogs go to Police Services and that is a great thing, Thus it is yes mainly about breeding quality dogs to quality dogs and making sure that all the areas are covered and covered well.

I personally believe that it is all about common sense, everyone here has their spacific areas of expertise and expectations from their dogs. No matter if we have differances veiws the most important rule is to be open enough to look learn and listen,
 

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I don't know if Marc's wife posted here or not.

I do know that the dogs are registered, are tested for hips/elbows/cerf and many others. I also know that the references that Marc provides from vets, trainers and other breeders is extremely impressive.

Me personally, I look for police service type dogs, therefore titles mean zip to me. I am not sure what type of title you are looking for in this situation. I certainly would walk away from sport titles in a second; show titles are great for a show dog, not what I look for!

Notice the titles Deb Meloche's dogs have? None, but the pedigree is full of dogs doing the actual work. This is what I look for in my selection process.

Now I cannot defend or degrade the breeding program as the first litter will be on the ground in March from them. I have a deposit on that litter, because I want to see what comes out and like I said they have my attention.

Once I get a pup and get it going {about 18 months to 2 years from now} then I can tell exactly what type of quality or lack of; whichever the case may be they produce.
About Deb Meloche - someone I know sent me this link. She seems to have an awful lot of dogs of very different breeds available. No wonder she doesn't have the dogs titled. I would doubt she'd have time, as she seems to have a lot of dogs going on!

http://www.adpost.com/ca/?website=&...mat=headlines&query=user&who_modified=zoegirl
 
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About Deb Meloche - someone I know sent me this link. She seems to have an awful lot of dogs of very different breeds available. No wonder she doesn't have the dogs titled. I would doubt she'd have time, as she seems to have a lot of dogs going on!

http://www.adpost.com/ca/?website=&...mat=headlines&query=user&who_modified=zoegirl
I believe D. Meloche owns 2 Shepherds and 1 Dob adult. Yes people can advertise what they wish and do it as many times as they wish. As far as the dogs titles there are many. So before you discredit someone you should learn to ask questions rather than bash them. There are many ads as to Dog training and fund raising as well so does that make her a bad person?
 

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I never made any comment on Ms. Meloche as a person, nor did I bash her (I don't know her). I simply commented that she advertises a large number of different breeds of dogs for sale, and as such must be quite a busy individual. You are jumping to conclusions when you assume I am bashing her. I just found it intriguing that she has so many different varieties of breeds for sale. An astute dog person can interpret that as they wish. I also thought you said her dogs were not titled? Perhaps I misunderstood.
 
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What, where and who would you go see and what would you expect to see when picking out your puppy or doggie?
I'm a dog person, I don't feel complete without a dog. When I look for a dog, I'm looking exclusively for companionship as I don't really have a desire to compete or participate in dog sports - for me, owning a dog is about being with the dog, not about being with 300 new friends at the trial or show. That said, I'm as choosy as the most competitive agility trainer when it comes to dogs. Physically, they must resemble my first dog, which means a shaggy 20-50lb dog with a beard. Second in importance, and just as vital, is that the dog has to be vibrant. I don't like stolid, sluggish, dull dogs. I look for a dog that WANTS OUT of the kennel, that rushes around like a locomotive, that pulls on the leash, wags its tail like a blur, jumps and is alight with energy and joy. Shelters are often startled I want these dogs, but I don't understand why so many people choose the 'hohum' animated hearth rugs that are apparently more popular. You can train a young dog, and if the dog's out of adolescence, most of that manic wildness will vanish once the dog realizes she's got a home and security. The joy, that palpable thrill of living, is worth every second of training.

As to where, I go to the same shelter where I got my first dog. The people there are responsible, and you can trust their evaluations on their animals. That's huge. There are shelters in my area I'd never go to, and I'd steer people away from, even though the dogs ultimately suffer. They're simply too poorly run. It's sad that there might be good dogs lost in the mess, but I wouldn't put myself or anyone else through the trouble of making up for their inadequacies. It's too easy to adopt a problem and be emotionally attached by the time you realize the extent of the issue.
 

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Aaaaanyway back on subject....

What?
I wanted a male sheltie pup. We've always had males, so I decided to stick with it. I wanted a companion dog, but agility or flyball or some other doggy sports was something I was interested in.

Where?
A breeder within an hour's drive. I wanted somebody who would be close enough to continue to be involved as he got bigger. Pictures are nice, but having your breeder actually put their hands on the puppy and check him out as he grows is really somethin' else... I didn't realize exactly HOW important that was to me until Auggie started getting bigger. Now it's an even bigger deal!

Who?
Jean Fisher! My dad worked with somebody who's girlfriend knew Jean from shows, IIRC, and pointed us in their direction. (There was a second sheltie breeder in the area that our vet pointed us to - she never returned my messages telling her I was looking into getting a puppy.) Conformation, herding, agility - yes, yes, and yes.

What do I expect?
An awesome, healthy dog who will own on the agility course. He's already awesome, so far he's been healthy, and we'll see how he does on the agility course. ;> He does very well making his own obstacle courses in the house, LOL!
 
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I never made any comment on Ms. Meloche as a person, nor did I bash her (I don't know her). I simply commented that she advertises a large number of different breeds of dogs for sale, and as such must be quite a busy individual. You are jumping to conclusions when you assume I am bashing her. I just found it intriguing that she has so many different varieties of breeds for sale. An astute dog person can interpret that as they wish. I also thought you said her dogs were not titled? Perhaps I misunderstood.
That it is totally understandable I would question it too. Yes her dogs are titled. Her dog Miss Fritz is just getting ready to be certified as to Search and rescue dog. She does the job well. I do not know where I think it is chidee that said that not me
 
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I don't know if Marc's wife posted here or not.

I do know that the dogs are registered, are tested for hips/elbows/cerf and many others. I also know that the references that Marc provides from vets, trainers and other breeders is extremely impressive.

Me personally, I look for police service type dogs, therefore titles mean zip to me. I am not sure what type of title you are looking for in this situation. I certainly would walk away from sport titles in a second; show titles are great for a show dog, not what I look for!

Notice the titles Deb Meloche's dogs have? None, but the pedigree is full of dogs doing the actual work. This is what I look for in my selection process.

Now I cannot defend or degrade the breeding program as the first litter will be on the ground in March from them. I have a deposit on that litter, because I want to see what comes out and like I said they have my attention.

Once I get a pup and get it going {about 18 months to 2 years from now} then I can tell exactly what type of quality or lack of; whichever the case may be they produce.
Exactly: There is always potential in any ones breedings, sure they may not have any titles, but you can look at the dogs in the pedigree. Now I know that they Augers have one of my dogs. Glory.A short stocked working line, sure has some white on her although does not take away from the quality in her breeding. She comes from some of my impressive breeding dogs.

Tucker out of top german holland breeding Sch 1, 2, 3 kkl1 Started in bh for sch.

Yeka K-9 security, building, vehicle search personal protection dog. East German Ddr lines

Teka Fully trained Search and Rescue, K-9 Security, Narcotic Patrol,building and Vehicle search dog. High and intense strong nerves ready to go when ever needed. Completed Personal Protection dog

Jake: Fully trained K-9 Security, building search vehicle search, narcotic patrol dog. Extreme intensive personal protection dog.

And the list goes on. As far as the papers I beleive he choses to register with the Apr Registry. That is his choice and to be honest with you as long as there are some sort of paper trail on the dogs who should care.

Now yes there are some issues that needed to be corrected and I have dealt with them and they have listened well to instructions with the proper approach. The dogs are no longer on tow chains. But in full kennel indoor out door runs. They have a rescue program which I would say is honorable.

Now as far as their breeding program is concerned, there are only three dogs that they are working with and that is Glory, Yukon, and Ava. Ava another of my breeding. As well what I understand is that they have not had a litter of their own as yet. So as far as I am concerned all and every one requires the benifit of the doubt.

I will tell you this, I am the type of person that will give just about anyone a chance. If I see that any of my dogs are being miss treated I will deal with the issue and deal with it hard. So if there were to be any type of abuse directed to the dogs she or any one that has received from me be assured they would have been removed in a heart beat.

I will state this I have worked very hard for the reputation that I have and I will be damed if any one ruin it for me. So when I see a potential problem, I take the time out of my busy day and go and work with yours. I can say I have given them permission to use the information at hand on Glory and Ava. Why not it is the truth and why keep that from anyone. Good luck with the pup you receive from the Auger's and keep in touch with us so we can see how the dog is developing
 

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Exactly: There is always potential in any ones breedings, sure they may not have any titles, but you can look at the dogs in the pedigree. Now I know that they Augers have one of my dogs. Glory.A short stocked working line, sure has some white on her although does not take away from the quality in her breeding. She comes from some of my impressive breeding dogs.

Tucker out of top german holland breeding Sch 1, 2, 3 kkl1 Started in bh for sch.

Yeka K-9 security, building, vehicle search personal protection dog. East German Ddr lines

Teka Fully trained Search and Rescue, K-9 Security, Narcotic Patrol,building and Vehicle search dog. High and intense strong nerves ready to go when ever needed. Completed Personal Protection dog

Jake: Fully trained K-9 Security, building search vehicle search, narcotic patrol dog. Extreme intensive personal protection dog.

And the list goes on. As far as the papers I beleive he choses to register with the Apr Registry. That is his choice and to be honest with you as long as there are some sort of paper trail on the dogs who should care.

Now yes there are some issues that needed to be corrected and I have dealt with them and they have listened well to instructions with the proper approach. The dogs are no longer on tow chains. But in full kennel indoor out door runs. They have a rescue program which I would say is honorable.

Now as far as their breeding program is concerned, there are only three dogs that they are working with and that is Glory, Yukon, and Ava. Ava another of my breeding. As well what I understand is that they have not had a litter of their own as yet. So as far as I am concerned all and every one requires the benifit of the doubt.

I will tell you this, I am the type of person that will give just about anyone a chance. If I see that any of my dogs are being miss treated I will deal with the issue and deal with it hard. So if there were to be any type of abuse directed to the dogs she or any one that has received from me be assured they would have been removed in a heart beat.

I will state this I have worked very hard for the reputation that I have and I will be damed if any one ruin it for me. So when I see a potential problem, I take the time out of my busy day and go and work with yours. I can say I have given them permission to use the information at hand on Glory and Ava. Why not it is the truth and why keep that from anyone. Good luck with the pup you receive from the Auger's and keep in touch with us so we can see how the dog is developing
I'll certainly let you know what happens and how it works out.

I am the type of person who goes and looks at the dogs before I decide anything. Anyone can say anything. The proof is in the fur in front of me.

I have met the Auger's; I have met Deb Meloche; I find both extremely responsible and reputable. I do find Deb has much more knowledge then the Auger's but she has been in the business much longer and she should have more knowledge.

Now that female shepherd Miss Joy that Deb has, wow. Miss Fritz...wow.
Never saw a building search done so well as that dog.

Now go watch that male of Auger's track. Wow. Check his protection {bite work} Wow
The younger female has nerves of steel, but is very raw. No training. From what I was told the basic's are being started.

I will PM more with you as I think the Auger's are alittle taboo to be discussed openly here.
 

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About Deb Meloche - someone I know sent me this link. She seems to have an awful lot of dogs of very different breeds available. No wonder she doesn't have the dogs titled. I would doubt she'd have time, as she seems to have a lot of dogs going on!

http://www.adpost.com/ca/?website=&...mat=headlines&query=user&who_modified=zoegirl
Tell me something though, does she breed all those dogs herself? Or does she have different breeders at different places working for her, kwim? Sort of a network? I'm curious as to whether they allow you to visit the breeder or if the puppies are brought to her facilities to meet the new owners. I've never heard of K9 Dogs 4 You, sounds like they're a really busy facility! Even a Quarter Horse listed on there.

And what exactly is APR registration?
 
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Tell me something though, does she breed all those dogs herself? Or does she have different breeders at different places working for her, kwim? Sort of a network? I'm curious as to whether they allow you to visit the breeder or if the puppies are brought to her facilities to meet the new owners. I've never heard of K9 Dogs 4 You, sounds like they're a really busy facility! Even a Quarter Horse listed on there.

And what exactly is APR registration?
hi; K-9 Dogs 4 You is a Dog Training Center, Held in a little town of Amherstburg Ontario Canada. What we do there is hold Full dog training courses for individuals that wish to become a professional dog trainer. After hours dog training and grooming of all breeds of dogs.

We as well are offering a program called "SPONSOR A KID TRAIN A DOG"

I see you noticed the ads avail. One especially a Horse. Well that ad was placed for a great freind of mine that I rode in Horse shows with many moons ago. He is one of Ontario's top barrel racer and breeder. Would do just about anything for him as he would do just about anything for me.

Then the other ads. Well they were to be deleted but Oh well. Not a problem. We do not breed anything other than German Shepherds and Dobermans here. The other ads were to assist those who did not have a internet or way to advertise their dogs. So again we helped them out.

Yes we are busy, we assist with the homeless, (people) we assist with the local food mission in sponsoring them financially or voluntering. We just do what we do to help others out. No harm in that We have a load of fun doing it too.
 

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wow those questions really make someone think. for myself, when my grand children are older, I will want a tea cup yorki I will at that time find a reputable breeder. for now, since we just got Ginger last week, I wanted a companion. Someone to take walks with and just snugle up to. so I went to the pound and found exacly what I was looking for she came in about 5 minutes after I did. Her owner had passed away. It was love at first sight.
 

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