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Only if you're looking at showline...working line GSDs in TX are still $1200-$1500. Showlines are $2000+
If you have to ship a dog, though, a $1200 dog could easily cost $2000 in the end. Logan was $800, but by the time it was all said and done, including shipping (and the costs associated with shipping), he was closer to $1600.
 

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Why did shipping cost 800? Are you including your own ticket flying to collect and flying him as baggage?

Our dogs shipping was 250 as cargo with no one on flight, 100 if you're on flight and they're baggage or 100 if they're puppies/small dogs and fit in the cabin.
 

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Why did shipping cost 800? Are you including your own ticket flying to collect and flying him as baggage?

Our dogs shipping was 250 as cargo with no one on flight, 100 if you're on flight and they're baggage or 100 if they're puppies/small dogs and fit in the cabin.
Yes, I am, because going there (or flying the breeder here) was a requirement, since she basically sold a puppy to someone on the internet that she had never met (and Romy had never met me, either). She wanted to meet me and get to know me a bit. I'd rather go there than subject her to summer in Kansas.

I don't remember how much the cost of the flight or the cost of cargo was individually, but I do know the extra $800 included flight, cargo, crate, health cert, and whatever else I may have needed to fly there and fly him back home. I only went for the weekend, so it does not include missed wages.

I include it all because none of it would have been required if I didn't have to ship a dog.
 

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If you have to ship a dog, though, a $1200 dog could easily cost $2000 in the end. Logan was $800, but by the time it was all said and done, including shipping (and the costs associated with shipping), he was closer to $1600.
She said in her area...I took that to mean without shipping.
 

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She said in her area...I took that to mean without shipping.

I know, I was speaking in general, since it's a general type of thread... It's awesome if you have good breeders near you, but a lot of times shipping has to happen (especially with less uncommon breeds). I could get a good local aussie, lab or GSD around here, but anything else I'd have to ship.
 

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Yes, I am, because going there (or flying the breeder here) was a requirement, since she basically sold a puppy to someone on the internet that she had never met (and Romy had never met me, either). She wanted to meet me and get to know me a bit. I'd rather go there than subject her to summer in Kansas.

I don't remember how much the cost of the flight or the cost of cargo was individually, but I do know the extra $800 included flight, cargo, crate, health cert, and whatever else I may have needed to fly there and fly him back home. I only went for the weekend, so it does not include missed wages.

I include it all because none of it would have been required if I didn't have to ship a dog.
That makes sense, I thought you meant the shipping itself cost that and I was overwhelmed wondering why ours have been so cheap.
 

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I know, I was speaking in general, since it's a general type of thread... It's awesome if you have good breeders near you, but a lot of times shipping has to happen (especially with less uncommon breeds). I could get a good local aussie, lab or GSD around here, but anything else I'd have to ship.
Gotcha! :)

FWIW I got Kastle from Belgium for $1700 total. It's close to $2000 but $300 excess is nothing to sneeze at!
 

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That makes sense, I thought you meant the shipping itself cost that and I was overwhelmed wondering why ours have been so cheap.
Haha, yeah, if you just ship the dog alone, it's around $250-$300. That's about what Tango cost to ship. Tango's crate was also much cheaper than Logan's :rofl1:
 

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gotcha, there are some good breeders in TX of either :)
Yes I know ...I already have them all bookmarked :p I would much better prefer getting a pup from a local (meaning same state) breeder because I have never shipped bought a dog sight unseen & am apprehensive on how that would work.

But if I could buy OOS I would buy from these people (ACDs): http://k9cowboys.com/

I wished I lived closer :( :(
 
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Yes I know ...I already have them all bookmarked :p I would much better prefer getting a pup from a local (meaning same state) breeder because I have never shipped bought a dog sight unseen & am apprehensive on how that would work.

But if I could buy OOS I would buy from these people (ACDs): http://k9cowboys.com/

I wished I lived closer :( :(
I flew to pick up my puppy. I found a breeder I liked and met her briefly at nationals before the litter was born. When they were ready to go home, I flew there to meet her, meet her dogs, see her place, and evaluate my pup in person. He rode home under my seat, and I was extremely pleased.

People can claim all kinds of things on the internet, so it was peace of mine for me that my pup came from exactly the home that was described, and probably made the breeder confident that I was willing to go all that way.
 
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I suppose show quality dogs of different breeds cost different prices. Show quality dogs in my breed and in the registry I show are pretty darn cheap compared to most of them. My breeder kindly asked me not to say how much I paid for my puppy as to not make other puppy buyers jealous (lol, I was delivering a puppy back home with me on the trip) but he was practically free. I basically just paid for all of his medical stuff and health certificate and that's it. I had been in contact with her for several years and while I had never met her or her dogs in person, I had met dogs she'd produced (older siblings and several older half siblings to my current dog). We stayed for a week vacation and I bet we didn't even break $600 for everything, even driving from Indiana to Florida and back.

I don't expect that kind of break on my next puppy whether it be from this breeder or another. I have plans on getting another breed in the future and more than likely that dog will have to be flown to me. Price isn't really an issue if I'm getting the dog I want. I've never flown a dog but I guess there's a first for everything.
 

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I flew to pick up my puppy. I found a breeder I liked and met her briefly at nationals before the litter was born. When they were ready to go home, I flew there to meet her, meet her dogs, see her place, and evaluate my pup in person. He rode home under my seat, and I was extremely pleased.

People can claim all kinds of things on the internet, so it was peace of mine for me that my pup came from exactly the home that was described, and probably made the breeder confident that I was willing to go all that way.
This is what I'm doing. I'm in Michigan. My breeder is in Wyoming. I will be flying or driving out to pick up my little ACD girl. I follow my breeder on FB, as well as several of her past puppies' owners. I try to keep in steady touch with her, chatting about different things every few months. I don't feel I would be comfortable buying sight unseen without a super good relationship. I also like a super tight knit support group. And I get that through both the ACD community and my breeder. I know if anything goes wrong, she will be there and the ACD community is EXTREMELY easy going and welcoming. Koolie community has some stuff going on, which is another reason I stepped back from that for a while.

Rider was pretty much adopted sight unseen. I talked with the coordinator a few times, and his foster home a few times. From how they made him sound, he was perfect for what I was looking for. Has he met everything they said? No.. but there are more factors that go into it. I feel that for specific things, such as an SD, working dog, bird dog, whatever.. reputable breeder is the way to go. For a household pet/dabble in sports... why not a rescue?
 

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I feel that for specific things, such as an SD, working dog, bird dog, whatever.. reputable breeder is the way to go. For a household pet/dabble in sports... why not a rescue?
Because people want a household pet where the genetic health of the parents/line is known, want to raise a puppy, and want to have an idea of how that pup will turn out? Because they're not equipped for potential baggage of an adult, or because their needs in a pet are met by a breed that's very uncommon in rescue? Or because they want to have say/control of if and when the animal is sexually altered?

My mom got Ollie as household pet and nothing more. I mean, they jog with him but almost any dog can do that. She still sought him out from a breeder for all of the reasons listed above and more. He has been absolutely perfect for my parents and their household.

I'm very uncomfortable with the attitude that one should "need" the dog for "something" in order to buy from a breeder. I think that's unfair to pet owners.
 

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Honestly Auggie was not intended to be a sport dog when I bought him. But I went to a breeder because I did NOT want another Happy.
I loved Happy and I miss him severely, sometimes still to the point of tears.
But I did not want to pay money to put myself in a situation of heartbreak again. It was not easy with Happy. His health and temperament problems plagued him almost his entire life and caused his early demise, even though when I bought Auggie I had no idea Happy would die young.

I don't think anybody would be so stupid to suggest that health problems are IMPOSSIBLE with well-bred dogs and health screening. It's genetics. Nothing is guaranteed... nothing. But if I'm going to play the genetic lottery, I'm going to put my money where the odds of health are higher.
 

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Panzer was bought unseen. I put my total faith in the breeder to pick out my puppy. And so far I am so happy with that decision. I think it helped put my mind at ease because I've talked to previous puppy owners that are very happy with their dogs and the breeder. The breeder also was honest with me and upfront and answered all my questions and then some.

So far I am so, so, so happy with my puppy his confidence and personality astound me more and more everyday.

If I was able to, yes I probably would have flew there to meet the breeder the pups in person, but that would set us more than the 2000 and that was our budget for this puppy, which included the fee to fly him here.
 
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I'm very uncomfortable with the attitude that one should "need" the dog for "something" in order to buy from a breeder. I think that's unfair to pet owners.

Also, companionship/being a pet IS "something," and someone wanting a pet has as much right to be sure the odds have been stacked in their favor to get what they want as someone wanting a sport dog or whatever.

Until Squash, who was not from an intentionally bred litter so I'm never really sure where to put him, all of my dogs have been obtained via "rescue," I never had any specific plans for them, and I've been perfectly happy with them. But I am personally pretty adaptable to whatever I get and kind of like a bit of a gamble about "well I like this dog let's see what happens." But not everyone is like that... and even someone who wants "just" a pet has a right to seek out something that has a high chance of matching their expectations.

Now that I probably will have more specific plans, I may or may not continue to work through rescues/rehomes even though I'm just a "dabbler."
 

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Also, companionship/being a pet IS "something," and someone wanting a pet has as much right to be sure the odds have been stacked in their favor to get what they want as someone wanting a sport dog or whatever.

Until Squash, who was not from an intentionally bred litter so I'm never really sure where to put him, all of my dogs have been obtained via "rescue," I never had any specific plans for them, and I've been perfectly happy with them. But I am personally pretty adaptable to whatever I get and kind of like a bit of a gamble about "well I like this dog let's see what happens." But not everyone is like that... and even someone who wants "just" a pet has a right to seek out something that has a high chance of matching their expectations.

Now that I probably will have more specific plans, I may or may not continue to work through rescues/rehomes even though I'm just a "dabbler."
Yes, totally. I don't think my "something" necessarily counts more than an average pet owner's "something." I just... don't think I get to decide that.
 

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