labradoodles?

[dr2little]

May I ask how many "Labradoodles" anyone has ever seen with therapy certifications? Or actively doing therapy work? Or actively being used as a guide dog? I've seen none first-hand, personally. I've heard from many other folks more heavily involved in therapy work that they have not seen them either. They're being bred and sold as pets for the most part. That's turned into the purpose of the breed, a nice pet.

Many Labradoodles are being donated by responsible breeders for just that purpose in Australia and here in Canada. As for breeding for the perfect pet (not the original intention for the Labradoodle)...what a great "purpose". The vast majority of dogs on this planet are just that, beloved pets. 4 of my 5 dogs are exactly that. Pugs would be happy to know they're valued too.
I read that your dogs were used to do what they were bred for but you do realize, especially with your experience that your dogs were in the minority.
While I agree, a border collie without a job may spell disaster, many dogs of most breeds are active, happy family members....no job required.

 

[dr2little]

And it begins *ding* , lol.

No bell required, I took my pills and I'm downing a 26 as I type!!

 

[dr2little]

Oops....looks like I'm all alone here. I changed my mind GSDLOVER, ring the bell quick...I think I won!! hehe

 

[lakotasong]

I understand that plenty of working breeds exist as nothing more than pets today. My point was that if someone is breeding a dog that has a job that its breed is supposed to do, I feel it is a disservice to the breed if the breeding dog is not proven in that field.

 

[SummerRiot]

IMO solely - I do find it a bit unnerving that the Labradoodle can be classed as a "breed", although I can accept it if someone wants a "lab like" dog with a non-shedding coat - for I know that Labs shed lots and lots! lol

BUT.. poodles on their own are a very intelligent breed - yes they may not posses the structure of a Lab that some people like.

I Do oppose all the other "oodle" breeds and find it horrible to see. People are just breeding poodles to other breeds to "see how it turns out" it seems lol

I'm sure one day in the future the Labradoodle will become an "actual breed" - but I really hope that only respectable breeders keep that up.

There are WAY too many mutts that wind up in the shelter because "they were cute as puppies". I used to volunteer at a Shelter for years and there were so many loveable dogs (mostly Lab crosses) that I used to take care of that were euthanized because they were there too long. Its very very sad.

So.. recap - I am for the Labradoodles - ONLY under respectable breeders
I'm 100% against any other "oodle" mix.

 

[GSDlover_4ever]

Oops....looks like I'm all alone here. I changed my mind GSDLOVER, ring the bell quick...I think I won!! hehe

LMAO!!

 

[Fran27]

I too have a hard time understanding why some people seem to think that all Labradoodles come from BYB's but that all breeders of pure breds breed to better their breed rather than for money. It's a selfish "business".
I mean lets do the math, labs, goldens (which I do like) have what...up to 10..sometimes more pups. How many are sold to family homes and how many are used to "better the line"...
There are terrific breeders out there but they are unfortunately hugely out numbered by the bad ones...hence breed specific rescues.
Like I said before, in my perfect world ALL BREEDERS would be regulated to the nuts.

I think you misunderstand what people say. Nobody ever said that all breeders of pure breds breed to better the breed. Frankly, I think that over 60% at least breed solely for money.

Not all labradoodle breeders are BYB's. Yes there are some that are just in it for the money, and yes there are some that just love the look/temperment of the dog.

Well honestly, at this point I'm not sure anymore. If those people who just love the look/temperament of the dog really only bred for those reasons, why are they still charging $2500 then?

 

[Roxy's CD]

Yeah, the only thing I don't really like about the whole issue is all the "doodles". It's not just labradoodles, there's boxer doodles, golden doodles.. I cant wait to see a doberdoodle or a gerdoodle.. LOL NOT!

I just think because the people who started this trend have made a name, labradoodles are very popular, now everyone's trying to come up with their own doodle breed. It's just gotten a bit out of hand in that sense.

 

[Roxy's CD]

I think you misunderstand what people say. Nobody ever said that all breeders of pure breds breed to better the breed. Frankly, I think that over 60% at least breed solely for money.



Well honestly, at this point I'm not sure anymore. If those people who just love the look/temperament of the dog really only bred for those reasons, why are they still charging $2500 then?

My friend got her golden doodle for I think $300. Shots, I'm not sure what type of certifications and what not... A few toys, a collar and leash. And a certificate for lessons at our local kennel club.

 

[dr2little]

IMO solely - I do find it a bit unnerving that the Labradoodle can be classed as a "breed", although I can accept it if someone wants a "lab like" dog with a non-shedding coat - for I know that Labs shed lots and lots! lol

BUT.. poodles on their own are a very intelligent breed - yes they may not posses the structure of a Lab that some people like.

I Do oppose all the other "oodle" breeds and find it horrible to see. People are just breeding poodles to other breeds to "see how it turns out" it seems lol

I'm sure one day in the future the Labradoodle will become an "actual breed" - but I really hope that only respectable breeders keep that up.

There are WAY too many mutts that wind up in the shelter because "they were cute as puppies". I used to volunteer at a Shelter for years and there were so many loveable dogs (mostly Lab crosses) that I used to take care of that were euthanized because they were there too long. Its very very sad.

So.. recap - I am for the Labradoodles - ONLY under respectable breeders
I'm 100% against any other "oodle" mix.

YES!!!

 

[GSDlover_4ever]

I cant wait to see a doberdoodle or a gerdoodle.. LOL NOT!

Oh, the Doberman has already came out. Its called a Doodleman pinscher. When will the madness end.

 

[dr2little]

I think you misunderstand what people say. Nobody ever said that all breeders of pure breds breed to better the breed. Frankly, I think that over 60% at least breed solely for money.

I'm referring to the people who are adamant on this forum, not necessarily you, that pure breed breeders were by virtue of their breed of choice, somehow more responsible.



Well honestly, at this point I'm not sure anymore. If those people who just love the look/temperament of the dog really only bred for those reasons, why are they still charging $2500 then?

Most are over charging. I agree, but $2500.00 is less the norm. $1000.00 is on average what's being charged for a Labradoodle. Not sure where the $2500.00 figure came from. I can't even find anyone charging that.

 

[Fran27]

Actually, all the australian labradoodle breeder websites I've seen charge over $2500.

 

[Bailey+Ralph]

Ok, not getting involved in this at all

All i do want to say to Dr2little is that i kept looking at your Avi and didn't know that sophie is a Labradoodle (didn't even know what they look like) but i think she is a cutie

 

[bubbatd]

Easy everybody !!! No name calling !!!!!

 

[dr2little]

Ok, not getting involved in this at all

All i do want to say to Dr2little is that i kept looking at your Avi and didn't know that sophie is a Labradoodle (didn't even know what they look like) but i think she is a cutie

Thanks She's the best!

 

[LabBreeder]

I didn't call anyone a name Grammy. I'm sick and tired of being the one to get jumped on AFTER I apologize/fix something that was said before and everyone else has moved on. I have every right to be angry about what iluvpitbulls said.

 

[Roxy's CD]

I know there's a lot of people on this forum that agree somewhat with the statement regarding people who breed purebreds being upset about the mix.

I totally understand where they are coming from. If you are breeding an animal like a lab for field work, and are committed to keeping the breed for their original purpose I can see how mixing them could upset someone. When you've worked hard to achieve "good lines".

I can't say that I really care personally though, owning mutts myself. But I do understand where those people are coming from.

 

[MyIrishWolfie]

Labradoodles kind of look like Irish Wolfounds gone wrong.. I mean the snout area with all the long whiskers and stuff.

 

[LabBreeder]

I've had mutts as well Roxy. I love every dog I've ever had and have now. It's like you said though, when you are trying to "breed for their original purpose" it's annoying (to say the least) when someone acts like you shouldn't care. If owned a Poodle I'd be just as upset. It's not a matter of "breed specifics", it's a matter of mixing purebreeds to make a profit. Not all labradoodle breeders are doing this, I know. But there are plenty out there that are and it's VERY upsetting.