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I'm glad that we don't have to be as sensitive in the JRT world... There are tons of short legged, bow legged puddin' dogs with prick ears out there being called JRTs, in a way they are, poorly bred waaay out of standard BYB/ Mill dogs for sure, but to try and tell them their dog is not a "real" JRT is pointless and often hurtful...
The only time I get irritated is when someone tries to tell me mine are not proper cause they have long legs, and in Mindy's case a heavy harsh coat
I understand where you are coming from on the name issue but just glad I don't have to worry as much in my breed... To me a poorly bred, so out of standard it's not funny JRT is still a JRT just not a properly bred one..
The only time I get irritated is when someone tries to tell me mine are not proper cause they have long legs, and in Mindy's case a heavy harsh coat
I understand where you are coming from on the name issue but just glad I don't have to worry as much in my breed... To me a poorly bred, so out of standard it's not funny JRT is still a JRT just not a properly bred one..
Yah, I'd love for "pitbull" to only refer to the APBT, but the reality of the matter is that "pitbull" refers to a type and we're better off working to educate in that direction and THEN break it down into actual breeds.
Sometimes you have to work with accepted terminology and shape it
Sometimes you have to work with accepted terminology and shape it
Well, it doesn't help when supposedly dog-savvy people are doing the same thing. And no, I don't think that we should accept it. The terminology issue is a huge part of the reason BSL is so horrid right now. I would venture that most attacks are done by unregistered dogs. If the news always reported the attacks as generic bull breed mixes, or just plain DOGS, who would be afraid of Pit Bulls?
I was talking about why i dont distinguish on a dog forum , not this dog in particular , as I and the OP agree on what I called the dog , then out of left field i get punced on because i dared use a slang term , of boohoo.
aggggg i keep getting sucked back in , i am going to log out , someone scream leave it at me!
aggggg i keep getting sucked back in , i am going to log out , someone scream leave it at me!
I live in an area where there's an appreciation of the difference between a "pitbull" and an APBT -- not by everyone, but those who don't realize there's a difference are generally "not from around here," and they get the short educational talk, especially if I've got Tallulah (who IS an APBT) there as an illustration.
It's far easier to MODIFY behaviors than it is to turn them 180 degrees, especially if you can let them think they came to the conclusion themselves . . . then they'll be itching to spread their knowledge
And yah, much as I would LOVE for the catch-all term "pitbull" to go away, it's not going to in the real world. Sometimes you have to talk to people in their own language and use the vernacular they accept to get a message through.
It's far easier to MODIFY behaviors than it is to turn them 180 degrees, especially if you can let them think they came to the conclusion themselves . . . then they'll be itching to spread their knowledge
And yah, much as I would LOVE for the catch-all term "pitbull" to go away, it's not going to in the real world. Sometimes you have to talk to people in their own language and use the vernacular they accept to get a message through.
In my area, all of the generic bully mixes are called either 'pit mixes' or 'pit type dogs' by people out and about, and so that's usually what I do. Around here, bulldogs mean English bulldogs, and bully dogs means a rude, pushy dog that wants to get his way. It's easier to just go with what they're saying (especially when 'pit mix' isn't that far off).
I don't think people are dumb for now knowing dog breeds like an AKC judge. I couldn't tell you what kind of motorcycle my dad has or the title of a single song by Rihanna (that's a person, right?) if you had a gun to my head (I also couldn't name the gun!), but I don't think that makes me stupid, just uneducated. I do think there needs to be a lot more education, particularly in light of all the horribly ineffective, unscientific fear-based laws that are popping up. :]
It's easier to just go with what they're saying (especially when 'pit mix' isn't that far off). I don't think people are dumb for now knowing dog breeds like an AKC judge. I couldn't tell you what kind of motorcycle my dad has or the title of a single song by Rihanna (that's a person, right?) if you had a gun to my head (I also couldn't name the gun!), but I don't think that makes me stupid, just uneducated. I do think there needs to be a lot more education, particularly in light of all the horribly ineffective, unscientific fear-based laws that are popping up. :]
Yes, really.
From the "political" standpoint - It is very possible that the entire WORLD might outlaw my dogs, because people continue to choose to try to "save" and "help" dogs who have no business living.
From my personal standpoint... I have a zero tolerance policy on temperament issues, ESPECIALLY fear/shyness. I would be more willing to work with a downright aggressive dog than a fearful/shy dog - but if we're talking strictly bulldogs, anything that isn't perfect deserves a bullet.
When I'm actually trying to talk to someone about the breed, I use APBT. But when personally referencing them, they're bulldogs. (Then I get funny looks and people tell me my dogs aren't English Bulldogs *rolls eyes* lol)
I don't have bully breeds, but I do understand not risking it with severe issues... IMO that's different than manageable issues in the right hands...
To say that ANY dog thats not "PERFECT" deserves a bullet, I just can't go along with... My heart gets in the way...
Most of the dogs here I heard about being "problems" here were not rescues being handled by people with a clue... And properly managed... but idiots who bought pups from BYB and thought they were tough or Ceasar wannabe's... Then stuck the dog on a chain and ignored it...
I will bow out now because admittedly this is not "my" breed... But I just can't wrap my head around killing every non perfect dog...
To say that ANY dog thats not "PERFECT" deserves a bullet, I just can't go along with... My heart gets in the way...
Most of the dogs here I heard about being "problems" here were not rescues being handled by people with a clue... And properly managed... but idiots who bought pups from BYB and thought they were tough or Ceasar wannabe's... Then stuck the dog on a chain and ignored it...
I will bow out now because admittedly this is not "my" breed... But I just can't wrap my head around killing every non perfect dog...
So, to summarize, in THIS thread, one of our members posted some pictures of an adorable dog that her friend is fostering. In this same thread, you have made snarky comments about such dog's temperament and stated that any "bulldog" that is less than perfect deserves a bullet. IMO, that is inexcusably rude and uncalled for. And pretty **** extreme.
Zero tolerance? Meaning every dog that is shy/fearful should be euthanized or what? (curious)
I think my girl is the bomb - despite her shy/fearful tendencies
I think my girl is the bomb - despite her shy/fearful tendencies
I personally would MUCH rather work with a fearful or shy dog than a purely aggressive dog. I will never own an aggressive dog because they're aggressive and there's no fixing that. A fearful or shy dog (to a point) I can work with - it takes a lot of effort, but it's worth it.
It's a *very* common mindset that any perceivably unstable pit bull (or looks there of) should be put down to prevent allowing ammunition to the BSL backers. Be it overtly shy, normal dog guarding, or any other decided-by-the-moment extreme. This mentality is based off the fable of APBT of the past were perfect and killed if they maintained any form of substandard temperament. The truth is all dog breeds maintain their flaws and flukes and it's upon each owner to judge their dog, or kennel club/governing body if the dog is breeding, it should not be up for discussion by outsiders unless your dog is proving to be the infamous media ammo that we all fear.
Me, I out grew those fantastical theories years ago. I'd rather judge my dogs by their character as an individual and not as a lynchpin for an entire movement.
Me, I out grew those fantastical theories years ago. I'd rather judge my dogs by their character as an individual and not as a lynchpin for an entire movement.