What do you expect from your dog?

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cindr

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Nobody's trying to discredit you, it's more of a "Once bitten, twice shy" thing, I think.

Do you need the url for Heather's forum then? I don't have it, but I think several here do and belong. Maybe you could ask for somebody to PM it to you?

I'm not sure what's going on, who you are, whatever. I do know that "Yuckaduck" is either still here or lurks. Not sure why, nor do I care. Sometimes things should just be let go, kwim?

Dishonesty on the internet is nothing new. Live and Learn.
What do you mean once bit twice shy?
 
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cindr

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I am sorry but I need to laugh.:lol-sign: I sincerely can not get over this! I find that it is a joke!:lol-sign: That people can jump too conclusions and assumtions so quickly. But again not my issue and or problem.

As stated I am who I am and nothing but who I am. So if thats wrong I can't do anything for you and your thinking. Why because it is yours. No one elses but yours. Therefore you can keep it and hold on to it as tight as you wish. I need not to challange your thoughts as you need not attempt to challange mine. As stated we, none of us know each other. So to say things about some one is to attempt to bring attention to it and yourself. So yuup you all can keep it.

If you think I am going to get angry over this? Nope not at all. No need too. :cool: So anyhow have a great day and remember before you judge someone! Get to know them first. Or better yet don't bother. Why? Missery loves company! I know one thing I am not misserable and have no reason to be. So again good luck to what you think you have and think you own on me!!!!!!!!!
 

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#65
:confused: what is going on? Cindr is Heather? Or Heather's friend?? You were *going to* breed a rescue??

so confused...

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I'm not accusing you of being Heather/Marc Auger, either. All I know is that bunch and all those associated with them are quite shifty regarding their breeding practices. They're quite accustomed to lying to get around questions that are brought up regarding their dogs. I don't know you, and I don't know if you're lying here, but a lot of things just don't match up. WHY would you feel the need to pretend you aren't you, in order to discuss the dogs you're breeding? The only explanation that makes sense to me is that you are trying to hide something.

If you truly care about dogs, why are you doing things that will only harm dogs in the future? If you cared more about the dogs than your pocketbook, you'd be responsible about what dogs you breed (ie: no RESCUE dogs of unknown origin, no 1-year-old dogs, etc)

You are doing exactly what the Augers do in regards to titling - if you spent as much time training as you do making excuses, you'd have some OTCHs by now. You say your dogs are trained so well in these fields, so prove it. Just DO it. If you have titles and PROOF that your dogs are what you say they are (genuine proof, not your word that they were trained that way) I'll shut up.

Excuses and half-truths do not make someone an ethical breeder, Deb, contrary to what you may believe.
 
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hi; K-9 Dogs 4 You is a Dog Training Center, Held in a little town of Amherstburg Ontario Canada. What we do there is hold Full dog training courses for individuals that wish to become a professional dog trainer. After hours dog training and grooming of all breeds of dogs.
You teach a course for people who want to become a professional dog trainers?
 
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cindr

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I'm not accusing you of being Heather/Marc Auger, either. All I know is that bunch and all those associated with them are quite shifty regarding their breeding practices. They're quite accustomed to lying to get around questions that are brought up regarding their dogs. I don't know you, and I don't know if you're lying here, but a lot of things just don't match up. WHY would you feel the need to pretend you aren't you, in order to discuss the dogs you're breeding? The only explanation that makes sense to me is that you are trying to hide something.

If you truly care about dogs, why are you doing things that will only harm dogs in the future? If you cared more about the dogs than your pocketbook, you'd be responsible about what dogs you breed (ie: no RESCUE dogs of unknown origin, no 1-year-old dogs, etc)

You are doing exactly what the Augers do in regards to titling - if you spent as much time training as you do making excuses, you'd have some OTCHs by now. You say your dogs are trained so well in these fields, so prove it. Just DO it. If you have titles and PROOF that your dogs are what you say they are (genuine proof, not your word that they were trained that way) I'll shut up.

Excuses and half-truths do not make someone an ethical breeder, Deb, contrary to what you may believe.

Okay;

1) I have never made excusses at any time on this forum. No need too!
2) Where have I stated that I am some one I am not? Or lied about my breeding practises? We have 3 dogs and they are all registered. We have only bred our female Gsd and she is 27 months old. Her sister Joy has come in and out of season 3 times and will not be bred. Not our purpose. We bring in dogs for our training program thus no matter the breed the dogs are trained. They are then donated to either a Special Needs person or a Police Service in need. Thus I have no need to make up stories there at anytime. Where as I can prove them with out a doubt.
3) I have NOTHING TO HIDE! NOW OR EVER!
4) I am NOT HEATHER AUGER and have helped her out by assisting her with proper breeding and training guidence. Where as she has now cleaned up her facility! Why? Most definetly not by attacking her and her best interests but restructuring her thoughts and beliefs with kindness. Nothing else
5) I have trained dogs and received these titles; 1) Stolhuska Jake Cd title High score Ob. 90 % of my dogs go to Policing Services and not any where else.
6) Received Canadian Champion titles on my male Adam
I have not attempted a OTCH and do not need too as my dogs are trained spacifically for other areas. I therefore hope that this is worthy of your approval!:hail:
 
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whatszmatter

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I say keep up with the personal stuff. There are so many lies on the internet, and more than a few pages put forth by this HEather person, her ideas and attitudes shift daily from web board to web board, I've run across her before and every place she's been has been a train wreck, yet every so often she finds a group of people that aren't familiar with the 1000's of other twisted stories she's told, but eventually she trips up in her lies and gets exposed once again. I believe since this site has such high traffic she should have a sticky in her honor warning people about her.

I have no idea if Cindr is her or not, I could care less. But before Heather was against breeding Mal's with GSD's for breeding and rather recently she had the most timid scared looking specimen of a dog on her website of just that mix claiming she was going to be adding her to her breeding program, did you give her that guidance??
 
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cindr

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I am going to say this and then drop the subject all together. Since everyone here wants to take a peice out of me!

1) Where does it say that to be a trainer you must only train and handle one breed of dog?

2) Where does it say that because I breed a spacific breed of dog I can not assist another dog find a home?

3) Where does it say that To be a trainer you must hold a title or two?

4) Where does it say that I am a something I am not any where on this forum. I beleive the issue is this that the people that are attacking me are doing so why because?

1) They can

2) Because they wish too

3) They have nothing better to do!!! and missery loves company!:popcorn:
 
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cindr

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I say keep up with the personal stuff. There are so many lies on the internet, and more than a few pages put forth by this HEather person, her ideas and attitudes shift daily from web board to web board, I've run across her before and every place she's been has been a train wreck, yet every so often she finds a group of people that aren't familiar with the 1000's of other twisted stories she's told, but eventually she trips up in her lies and gets exposed once again. I believe since this site has such high traffic she should have a sticky in her honor warning people about her.

I have no idea if Cindr is her or not, I could care less. But before Heather was against breeding Mal's with GSD's for breeding and rather recently she had the most timid scared looking specimen of a dog on her website of just that mix claiming she was going to be adding her to her breeding program, did you give her that guidance??

Actually I told her that the dog she had was not a pure. That she should place that dog and not breed it. For some reason she has listened again. Hum tell me why is it she can listen to me and not any one else? I believe it has a lot to do with attitudes. As a matter of fact I have been working with her on the honesty program as well.

The thing about all of this and I truly understand. I as well as any one else are tired of the ways people play with animals lives. So there for it is no differnace then training an old dog new tricks. can it be done? Yes and I have accomplished that feet in many ways and many times.
 

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. But before Heather was against breeding Mal's with GSD's for breeding and rather recently she had the most timid scared looking specimen of a dog on her website of just that mix claiming she was going to be adding her to her breeding program, did you give her that guidance??

I am just curious as I am Heather's trainer; where you ever saw she was breeding this dog. I know she claimed it was brought in for training; which is true because it is in my kennel right now being worked with. I also know everytime I have looked on her website I saw it state not for breeding, but brought in for training. I also know currently the dog is listed on her site for sale; while I continue working with her and as I put more training in on the dog.

So if lying is so bad, which I tend think it is; why do you insist on doing it?


Cindr is Deb about 12 hours away from Heather. Does it matter?

One last thing and then I am gone from this site as it is not my style. I am going back to Heather's.

If you guys would have taken the time to educate Heather as Deb and I have in the manner that we have; then I honestly believe you would all be as proud as Deb and I are.

Deb we gotta meet someday as I really love the way you post so straight to the facts. There should be more like you!
 
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cindr

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I am just curious as I am Heather's trainer; where you ever saw she was breeding this dog. I know she claimed it was brought in for training; which is true because it is in my kennel right now being worked with. I also know everytime I have looked on her website I saw it state not for breeding, but brought in for training. I also know currently the dog is listed on her site for sale; while I continue working with her and as I put more training in on the dog.

So if lying is so bad, which I tend think it is; why do you insist on doing it?


Cindr is Deb about 12 hours away from Heather. Does it matter?

One last thing and then I am gone from this site as it is not my style. I am going back to Heather's.

If you guys would have taken the time to educate Heather as Deb and I have in the manner that we have; then I honestly believe you would all be as proud as Deb and I are.

Deb we gotta meet someday as I really love the way you post so straight to the facts. There should be more like you!
Well yes Chickenlittle we should meet some day. It is too bad when some one begins to assume things about others rather than taking the time to get to the person first. I do beleive that at one time Heather and her husband had been lead in the wrong direction. She did at one time say some worng things, I will state with the right approach she has taken the time to listen.

yes there were some heated conversations, but to be honest with you I am so straight foreward that I won in the end. So no I do not give up on people and or at that dogs. No matter the breed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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You should meet someday? Why, on page 4 you say you already have.Hard to keep it all straight, isn't it?
 

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