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We have a friend that used to watch Herschel for us when he was a puppy. We would only ever be gone for 6-8 hours, max, and we would measure out the food and place it in bags for each meal, give her one of his crates, and just about everything she would need to take care of him. All she had to do was take him out to go to the bathroom every few hours.

Now, she has an 8-month old puppy from some horrible breeder. I'm pretty sure it's a cocker/poodle mix. Depending on the context of the situation, she will lie and tell people she's a rescue. Yeah right. Find me a single rescue that will adopt out their dogs at 6 weeks without a spay/neuter contract. Luckily, we referred her to our vet so she was pressured into getting the dog spayed.

Anyway, it's our turn to return the favor. She is gone on a trip for a couple of weeks. She was boarded for a few days, then one of our friends took her and neglected her for a few days. By the time we got her, she smelled like pee, looked terrible, and was even less house-trained than she was before. Our friend didn't provide a crate or any grooming supplies. I guess she assumed we would just use one of ours? Her instructions are basically, "give her a bowl of food in the morning and a bowl at night."

I borrowed a crate from a friend of ours because I don't want this thing peeing in any of Herschel's crates. So far, no major accidents in the house. Any time a person touches her she gets so excited that she pees all over the place. She pees when she's submissive, too. She made it onto one of our couches before I could stop her and as soon as I pointed to the ground and asked her to get off, she peed, then jumped off and scurried away.

We're being as tolerant as possible, but it is wearing on both of us. We mostly keep her confined to her crate. If I'm absolutely sure she has no chance of having an accident, I will let her play with Nala for a little while. As soon as they are done, she goes out to go to the bathroom and then back into the crate. My kitchen is starting to smell like urine so I have an air purifier right next to her crate. As soon as she is gone on Sunday I'm going to sterilize everything.

Ugh.
 

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Ohh that is NO fun. I don't think I would handle that- at all. Ok, well, I don't think Bella would handle it either, but I wouldn't stand for that. I'm not sure how you do it. Good luck until Sunday!
 

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i would have pulled all of my hair out!
Congrats to you for dealing with this pup and hope all goes wel til Sunday.
 

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I feel like I'm fostering a feral rescue or something. Unfortunately, it isn't that noble at all.

Nala, who is typically very submissive and soft, quickly taught her the rules of the house. If she goes somewhere that I don't want her to go, Nala picks up on it and corrects her. I don't even have to say a word--Nala knows.
 

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This is why I am loathe to bring other people's dogs to my house for puppy-sitting. Ewww. I hope Sunday comes quickly for you.

The peeing. Is it just a Cocker thing? That's the only breed in which I've noticed the most inappropriate excited/submissive urination. Eve used to pee in excitement when she was a puppy, but thankfully that's long gone. I knew I had to be patient with her but holy crap, it drove me crazy.
 

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You are good to put up with it !!! At this point I'd take to a kennel and have them bill her !
 

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The peeing. Is it just a Cocker thing? That's the only breed in which I've noticed the most inappropriate excited/submissive urination. Eve used to pee in excitement when she was a puppy, but thankfully that's long gone. I knew I had to be patient with her but holy crap, it drove me crazy.
Careful. I used to think the same thing, but Cocker people hate that stereotype. It's like saying all Border Collies are neurotic.

Cockers have been overbred into such a disastrous state. I think the overwhelming majority of Cockers that most of us meet are poorly bred. As a result, a lot of them have the same temperament and behavior issues.

Another friend of ours has a Maltese/Poodle (rescued at 4 months) but she leaves her alone for 10-12 hours/day. As a result, she isn't house-trained at all and pees as soon as anyone touches her. It's just a lack of training thing, I guess. If the dog never gets in the habit of holding it until they get outside, they never learn to control it when they excited.
 

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The peeing. Is it just a Cocker thing? That's the only breed in which I've noticed the most inappropriate excited/submissive urination. Eve used to pee in excitement when she was a puppy, but thankfully that's long gone. I knew I had to be patient with her but holy crap, it drove me crazy.
Careful. I used to think the same thing, but Cocker people hate that stereotype. It's like saying all Border Collies are neurotic.
Not sure I care if cocker people hate the stereotype, and I usually steer clear of making breed-specific generalizations of any kind, but I will say that in all of the time I have spent working in boarding kennels, cockers have been consistently among the filthiest dogs.
 
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It's just a lack of training thing, I guess. If the dog never gets in the habit of holding it until they get outside, they never learn to control it when they excited.
I don't believe that's true either. Corvus is an excited pee-er, and he's been housetrained pretty much since he was four months old. Exceptionally housetrained to the point of I think he'd burst before he'd intentionally soil the house. But when he's excited, he has a hard time controlling it. In fact, he seems to not even notice he's sprinkling urine everywhere. We have cured this for the most part by completely ignoring him upon arriving home in the evening (he doesn't do it at lunch for some reason) until he's settled down. THEN he gets to go outside and use the bathroom. But, when we have company or we're out in public and strangers start the googly faces and baby talk with him, he'll tinkle again...even if he's already relieved himself.

It's a quirk, but it's not a lack of training by any means. Not in my case anyways.
 

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I don't believe that's true either. Corvus is an excited pee-er, and he's been housetrained pretty much since he was four months old. Exceptionally housetrained to the point of I think he'd burst before he'd intentionally soil the house. But when he's excited, he has a hard time controlling it. In fact, he seems to not even notice he's sprinkling urine everywhere. We have cured this for the most part by completely ignoring him upon arriving home in the evening (he doesn't do it at lunch for some reason) until he's settled down. THEN he gets to go outside and use the bathroom. But, when we have company or we're out in public and strangers start the googly faces and baby talk with him, he'll tinkle again...even if he's already relieved himself.

It's a quirk, but it's not a lack of training by any means. Not in my case anyways.
Herschel would very occasionally excitement pee when he got really excited until he was about a year old. However, that's completely different than peeing just because someone is trying to attach a leash. I seriously can't open this dog's crate door, attach a leash, or pick her up without her peeing. I've mastered the art of swooping her up as fast as I can to avoid accidents.
 

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Good god.. the situation you're in is my mother's worst nightmare.

Good luck with cleaning your house up after the pup is gone... my advice? Ask someone ELSE to dog sit for you so you don't get roped into this again...
 

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Is it the bending over that makes her pee? Have you tried just crouching down, tilting your head away from her and reaching for her without making a fuss?

I had a couple grooming clients with Cockers that peed over every little thing, and it was so hard to handle them and cut their hair while still keeping them CLEAN. Ugh. And they always soiled their crates. Always.
 

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