So we might be getting a second dog

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Not sure if anyone remembers me, my old account got eaten apparently, but I'm back. My mutt (rottie, lab, german shep, and ??? mix) Sam is doing superb, and is five years old now which is absolutely crazy to think about. I'll have to get some pictures up for you guys!

Anyway my Dad recently heard word of a young german shepherd, just over a year I believe, that is in need of a home. His owner, a young woman, started working out of the country and her mother took over care of the dog. She couldn't handle him and was looking to rehome him (his name is currently Mufasa.... you know from the Lion King).

So my Dad's friend, who has two hunting labs, decided he would take Mufasa. It didn't work out and one of his labs attacked Mufasa. He needed stitches. Apparently he's still doing well with the other lab though for what that's worth.

My parents are on board with us adopting this dog providing that I think that we can work him through any issues he might have. I'm home except for a few shifts of work until the end of August and from there my Mom works from home and should be able to work with him from there while I'm at school during the week. Aside from that I have three sisters who are all old enough to help with him now. (The youngest is 14). So time isn't an issue really.

I'm worried that this attack could have some long term effects on Mufasa. What is the best way to work with him to make sure this doesn't leave him fearful of other dogs? I worked with Sam as a puppy through his fears, but he was easy to influence and shape as a puppy. Any tips or advice on this issue for if we do end up taking him in?

According to my Dad's friend, Mufasa is fairly well behaved and gets along well with his other lab. He likes to chase cats, but isn't rough (we have four cats). Something my Dad is certain that we can work on, and have in the past with other dogs. Right now Sam half thinks he's a cat sometimes and even cuddles with one of them. The cats will be in for a rude awakening I guess. :p

Along with all that he apparently is protective over his crate. Sam doesn't have a crate he was always good to sleep the whole night through without getting into trouble as a pup and has never RG, so I don't even know where to go with this. I've been reading about crate guarding, and it is possible that he was just overwhelmed with his new surroundings and that the issue could resolve itself once he settles in. But how do I approach this? The only space we have for a crate is in the middle of family space, I'm mostly worried about the cats getting too close to his crate. Humans I can make them stay away while we work on curbing that desire to RG his crate but the cats not so much. I might be able to talk my parents into letting his crate go in my room to start off if you guys think that it is a better plan. There's just not much room for it there. Most of what I know about stopping RG is to limit access to the thing being guarded, but with a crate in the middle of the house it might not be as simple?

Basically he has some things to be worked out, I have the summer to start working on them, I just need some insight on whether this is a dog that can be worked with from home. I can't afford a trainer, and will be assuming responsibility for the cost of our current dog myself. I just want to help the poor pup out. This is all I know about him right now, I'm hoping to learn more soon. Any advice is greatly appreciated.

And well, see you around the forums. :)

Also general advice about life with two dogs? Or links to more information? Again super greatly appreciated!!
 

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I just wanna say HI nice to see you around :D

I'm unfortunately not good with "issues" so don't have advice for you there. I guess if I were considering this dog, I'd want to know more info about the circumstances surrounding the "attack" (does all fault go on the lab?). I'd want more info on the crate guarding (what behavior does he exhibit? Does he bite?) and would want to know if he's shown guarding behavior towards other things like food and toys. Just in general, I would want a loooot more info about him if I were in your shoes (and maybe you have that info, I guess I can't expect ALL the details to be posted :p)

You have to consider how much work you really want to put into this, what you are realistically able to deal with, and what your options are if it just doesn't work out. I would definitely meet him, have him meet Sam, and spend a decent amount of time with him to get to know him before committing. We kind of took a leap of faith getting Cajun (she was 15months old, being rehomed by a neighbor), but we met her, took her for a walk, and had her meet Juno before we made any decisions. I think we spent a couple hours with her before we decided to just do it.


But 2 is a great number of dogs to have :) My current number is at 4 which is a BIT much, but I really like having 2, provided they get along of course. I love being able to do stuff with 2 dogs, love that they can play with each other, but then with 2 it's also easy enough to make time to hang out with them one-on-one too.

Pictures of Sam, pls. :)
 

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Wow your zoo has grown! It's nice to hear from you again too. So wait do you have four dogs now??? That's a whole bucket of fun, lol.

Despite your wonderful advice about meeting him first and such my Dad went ahead and just brought him home. The guy he got him from is known for never being able to tell a truthful story apparently to boot.

The new guy, being called Mo, isn't possessive over his crate at all, nor his food or any food. He got a bit possessive around Sam with a chew but, not over his kibble so far and Sam took the message and respected his space. He won't be given anything like that unsupervised, and I same with Sam now. He doesn't seem to guard anything, but the house. He's nervous with strangers coming too close to him or in the house. We were each introduced to him one at a time while he wore a muzzle, walked him around for a bit on a leash and then a quick game of fetch. I don't know if that's going to have to be the norm for strangers in the house in the future, so we'll see.

He did have a thing about trying to hump Sam at first, but after a few foiled tries and a clear correction from Sam they've been best buddies ever since.

He is hardly interested in food at all, he is a nibbler when it comes to eating his kibble and Sam has zeroed in on that fact, but we're working on that.

He's also very pleased to chase the cats non-stop and they are not pleased in the slightest. Definitely have to work on that for their sake.

He really didn't like me at first, I was in and out of the house working all weekend so my lack of a presence probably had something to do with it. But ever since I saved his favourite ball from the pool he's seems to have changed his mind.

He feels like the complete opposite of Sam to be honest, but we're giving him a fair chance first. We're his fourth home and with all the issues that he does have I'm worried about how well he'd do in another, or if we could even find him any other good home.

Sam picture as requested:


And one of Mo too
 

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