Say hello to my lil' friend!

[PWCorgi]

Seriously.. Eating dog in the U.S, and that's OK how?

To her eating dogs is no different than us eating pigs or cows.
People of certain religions think that it is absurd that we eat cow and drink their milk, yet we see nothing wrong with this. In my view it is the same.

I do however find however that the callous nature of how we feel about the 'livestock' we consume is beyond the pale.

I find nothing funny about talking about animals like they have no consciousness or feelings simply because we (or our dogs) will consume them.

If I thought the chick had no feelings or consciousness than it would be sitting in a bucket with just food and water so that it will grow. Instead it is being kept warm with a heat lamp in a big tub with soft bedding. I don't understand what you are trying to say, but I can guarantee you that I have more respect for the animals I eat than many people will ever understand.

If you're talking about the joking that Nolu, AC and I were doing, I can't speak for them but what I was saying was tongue in cheek. I will continue to raise this chick, slaughter other animals for food for my dogs, and they will be taken care of in the best way possible. I make no excuses for what I am choosing to do.

I agree completely paean.

 

[dr2little]

What I think is sad, is not someone who is raising livestock to feed to another animal. It's that this particular animal is being raised completey "free range" with none of that crap food that huge companies like perdue use. This chick is very happy, and will continue to be as long as it lives. It will then go on to do what nature intended it to.

If you want to feel sad about something, feel bad about the animals major companies raise. they're locked in small crates, feed disgusting food, and look extremely sickly. Hell, at the perdue farms they run chicks over with tractors all the time and don't care. That chick just gets thrown out.

And no(aside from chicken and seafood) I do not eat meat. Even those I eat sparingly. yet I am completley fine with animals being raised for food. As long as they're given a good life until the day they die, I see nothing wrong or sad about it.

If you're replying to me, you're preaching to the choir...I couldn't agree more. I do not support (purchase) any animal that is raised for food in cruel circumstances. I support REAL hunters and buy only free range birds/eggs. That was not however what my post was about.

I think that it's fantastic that this little guy will be allowed to live the way he should. I also understand feeling sad when you look at his picture and then read about his demise....I'm simply being honest.

My point was only that I found the way that this thread evolved was sad. I just don't find anything funny about any aspect of meat production and certainly can understand how others feel sad when they see an adorable chick and the thread turns into what it has.

 

[Lizmo]

I honestly can't believe this thread is STILL going! It's JUST chickens that are going to be used as food. That is what CHICKENS were created for.

What is wrong with posting pictures of your new "livestock"? If I got sheep, I would post pictures of them because it's something that makes me happy. I'm happy I got (hypothetically) sheep. Because it benefits me. Just like the Lauren's chickens benefit her and her dogs.

This is ridiculious.

 

[PWCorgi]

This thread wasn't made in a "nice" way sharing photography of a baby chick. It was made with lack of compassion. And certain comments made afterward were childish and also show lack of compassion for the animals being used to feed humans.

That's right, I made this post because I hate the chick
I'm really glad you cleared that up for everyone, especially me, I had no clue I started this thread for those reasons.
As for calling him lunch and saying that he just won't shut up (it that's what you're referring to), uh, have you read ANY of my posts on this forum before. I'm always saying stuff like that, it's part of who I am. Haven't you ever heard the saying that actions speak louder than words? I think it's really quite entertaining that you think I am not a compassionate person, really I do.

The purpose of this thread was to share pictures of an adorable chick with others, if that offends you, too bad. I'm surprised you've made it this far in the world.

 

[Punkygirl0101]

I never said it offended me. I simply stated my opinion, and you took it farther than needed. I am who I am, and if I find it sad to post pictures of your dogs lunch, then so be it. Whats so wrong with that?

 

[xpaeanx]

And I still do think its cruel, and shows lack of compassion. This thread wasn't made in a "nice" way sharing photography of a baby chick. It was made with lack of compassion. And certain comments made afterward were childish and also show lack of compassion for the animals being used to feed humans.

so what exactly is a "nice" way to show pics? I see nothing wrong with what she posted. The chick is going to be eaten. Should she pretend everyone on here is a 2 yr old and that things done die, and the meat we are given/give out to eat just appears in the grocery store of it's own accord?

Honestly, if she was not compassionate towards the chick I doubt that she would post pics of it. Why go through all that effort over something you don't care about?

the things said after in jest, were said in just that: jest. It's human nature to joke about things we don't like/feel comfortable about. PW will prob not like killing the chick when the time comes, but she'll do it bc that's what has to be done.

I see no reason to gripe to someone, when they haven't actually done anything wrong. And posting pics of chicklet isn't wrong. Mistreating the chicklet is wrong. Clearly, PW is not mistreating this chicky. She was just sharing the cuteness of a baby chicky.

 

[dr2little]

I DO understand how things become tongue and cheek and I absolutely admire the fact that this little chick will enjoy the life he deserves before he is used. Again, I think that you know that the treatment of the chick is not what bothered me about this thread.

The only reason that I posted is because everyone seemed to be poking at the members who did find looking at the picture of him, knowing that it's not REALLY your lil' pet, sad. That's when the tongue and cheek started and if you read back, it got pretty cruel.

If you take a minute to think about the other side, there was no need for this to become what it has.

The last comment in particular "I'm surprised you made it this far in the world"...why?

 

[Punkygirl0101]

Because people like picking on different opinions.

 

[Lizmo]

I never said it offended me. I simply stated my opinion, and you took it farther than needed. I am who I am, and if I find it sad to post pictures of your dogs lunch, then so be it. Whats so wrong with that?

You took it wayyyy to far. You stated you opinion but posting pictures of livestock it's terrible.

 

[Dakotah]

I DO understand how things become tongue and cheek and I absolutely admire the fact that this little chick will enjoy the life he deserves before he is used. Again, I think that you know that the treatment of the chick is not what bothered me about this thread.

The only reason that I posted is because everyone seemed to be poking at the members who did find looking at the picture of him, knowing that it's not REALLY your lil' pet, sad. That's when the tongue and cheek started and if you read back, it got pretty cruel.

If you take a minute to think about the other side, there was no need for this to become what it has.

The last comment in particular "I'm surprised you made it this far in the world"...why?

And I think it is wrong that she said that.
Personally I will NOT kill an animal for food if I have it as a pet, because to ME they are family. Sorry that is MY opinion.

 

[xpaeanx]

I never said it offended me. I simply stated my opinion, and you took it farther than needed. I am who I am, and if I find it sad to post pictures of your dogs lunch, then so be it. Whats so wrong with that?

what's wrong with that is that you would have her not post pics of an adorable little chicken bc it bothers you. However, there are TONS of people on this forum who do/prob do enjoy seeing pics of baby animals. But bc it bothers you we shouldn't be able to see them?

No one told you you had to look at this thread, no one forced to you open it.

I love baby chicks, I have pics of me holding my mum's baby chicklets(who have now probably all been eaten), but does that mean I have no compassion for them? Even though I"m cradling them under my chin the pics? and I took the utmost care with how I picked them up to take the picture?

I would bitch if she showed a pic of the chicken in a sh!t filled bucket thrown in the corner, with no bedding, some water, and some pellets.

 

[xpaeanx]

And I think it is wrong that she said that.
Personally I will NOT kill an animal for food if I have it as a pet, because to ME they are family. Sorry that is MY opinion.

but it's not a pet. so what is the problem?

 

[Punkygirl0101]

You took it wayyyy to far. You stated you opinion but posting pictures of livestock it's terrible.

That is not taking it too far. That again, was defending MY opinion. I never said anything rude about other people, I NEVER called other people cruel. I said certain ACTIONS were cruel, but not people.

But bc it bothers you we shouldn't be able to see them?

Of course I am not out to stop all people doing certain things because I don't like what they do! I was...(Let me say this again) stating my opinion.

 

[Lizmo]

But I think the thing was that we all knew your opinion from your first few posts. Why keep on nagging PW?

 

[xpaeanx]

That is not taking it too far. That again, was defending MY opinion. I never said anything rude about other people, I NEVER called other people cruel. I said certain ACTIONS were cruel, but not people.

a person is their actions. by stating their actions are cruel, you are stating the person is cruel. If you are going to call someone cruel, you are going to have them(and everyone who would do the same as them as) defending their point. If you do not want this to happen, then don't give your opinion that their actions(and thus them) are cruel.

 

[Dakotah]

but it's not a pet. so what is the problem?

Did I say that PWC chicken was a pet? No
If you read, I said TO ME they are pets.

 

[Punkygirl0101]

Why keep on nagging PW?

How did I keep on nagging PW? I didn't...I was defending myself. Its not like I posted, and then nobody else commented about my post. I was being attacked, not the OP.

 

[Punkygirl0101]

My opinion WILL remain the SAME! As will everyone elses...so I really don't see the need for anyone to continue on. Who cares if I disagree with it? No need for a full blown war!

 

[xpaeanx]

Did I say that PWC chicken was a pet? No
If you read, I said TO ME they are pets.

but you said it in PW's thread about a chicken not being kept as a pet. When you make comments like that in a thread where someone is doing it, it makes it a pointed comment. so I was simply responding to where the comment was pointed.

 

[PWCorgi]

I DO understand how things become tongue and cheek and I absolutely admire the fact that this little chick will enjoy the life he deserves before he is used. Again, I think that you know that the treatment of the chick is not what bothered me about this thread.

The only reason that I posted is because everyone seemed to be poking at the members who did find looking at the picture of him, knowing that it's not REALLY your lil' pet, sad. That's when the tongue and cheek started and if you read back, it got pretty cruel.

If you take a minute to think about the other side, there was no need for this to become what it has.

The last comment in particular "I'm surprised you made it this far in the world"...why?

I do not understand why the comments about this being sad were made in the first place. I do not go around posting in threads about how sad it makes me to look at dogs that are overweight, how sad it makes me when dogs are kept outside 24/7, how sad it makes me when people get rid of their animals for crappy reasons. I guess I was just expecting the same courtesy for myself, but I guess I was expecting too much.

As for the comment, it was made in the context that if something like this (pictures of livestock) is so upsetting than I do not understand how that person has been able to function in a world like ours where cruelty, true cruelty and abuse exist, and are presented to us on a daily basis. Where millions of people and dogs are killed, that they can be this upset over a picture of a chick that is living happily and will be humanely killed for the optimum health of my dogs.

And I do not see why he cannot be treated as a pet until the time comes for him to be eaten, I will keep his standard of living as high as I would if he were meant to live in my home until he died of natural causes.