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yuckaduck

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I'm interested in hearing what dogs you are planning to breed, and why.
Has been answered many many many times.

I do not always have the cash readily available to spay a rescued bitch. My adoption fees are what pays for the next dogs treatment and care. Therefore if there are alot of dogs and no one adopting the money sometimes runs short so I do what is best for the dogs with what funds are available. I do my best for these dogs out of the goodness of my heart.

I am not showing nor do I have the interest in showing dogs. I have a paid trainer/handler who does that.

I am breeding Hope to a RCMP stud dog when she comes into heat....we are breeding for patrol dogs. These pups will be sold to registered patrol trainers or police agencies only. Any pups not making the cut will be trained for personal protection and then sold as trained adults. All pups will be spayed or neutered before leaving the property, any looking like good breeding prospects later will be kept until the decission is made. No intact dogs will leave here for many reasons but the main one is that there are very few breeders of high puppies for policing work. I want to restrict the competion by selling only spayed or neutered dogs; I do not want someone taking one of my dogs and creating their own breeding program with our hard work and our spent money.

My mentor and trainer is the one who makes all decisions concerning the breeding of the dogs and the placement of pups.
 
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My mentor and trainer is the one who makes all decisions concerning the breeding of the dogs and the placement of pups.

Interesting.
 
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yuckaduck

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RedyreRottweilers said:
My mentor and trainer is the one who makes all decisions concerning the breeding of the dogs and the placement of pups.

Interesting.
Yup he is the one training them so he will be the one who knows what they are capable of. I sell all my pups to him, and he trains and sells them as trained dogs there after. None of my pups will leave as sold puppies to homes all will go to Sam and be trained for whatever their capablities allow them to do and then they will be sold as trained adults. We are very excited about our first planned breeding too because the stud is a proven dog has almost all of his pups working in the RCMP. Hopfully Hope's working lines will up that work ability some more and give us a great turn out.
 

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I agree to get her spayed. You don't know if what kind of show dog she might be. It would be harder for her to lose a companion than a show dog. She can still compete in many, many competitions that would be great practise. Even if she did manage to keep her intact this will be an ongoing problem without a fenced yard. Get her spayed. When you are an adult and have full responsibility of your animals you should consider your other options. I do hope you come back and post again.
 
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It is really hard because she sounds like a responsible young lady but her parents are not helping her. A simple fence or going out with the dog would illiminate all this wonder and worry.

There is always the future and spaying this dog may be the easiest thing but will her parents do that? It seems like really it is not up to her. Unfortunately because I doubt this would have happened in the first place.

I too hope you come back and post.
 

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Yuckaduck, 100% of Hopes pups will be worthy of police and /or personal protection work? I don't think I've ever heard of a breeder where every pup in a litter is able to perform to those standards. Your trainer/handler must be amazing to take a dog that might not even have the temprament to do this work and be able to train them for it.
 

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I don't think she said that. She said they will be trained for whatever they can do and then be sold. I imagine that would include obedience, agility...
 

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"These pups will be sold to registered patrol trainers or police agencies only. Any pups not making the cut will be trained for personal protection and then sold as trained adults."

That pretty much says to me that they will all be used for 1 of those 2 purposes. She's always said that none of them will be pets. Even the BEST breeders of proven working dogs have pups that are not suitable for this kind of work.
 
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Saje said:
I don't think she said that. She said they will be trained for whatever they can do and then be sold. I imagine that would include obedience, agility...
I assume this is directed towards me and yes it does but the priority is policing and personal protection. The things that shepherds were more directed at first. Of course not all will have the temperment and ability to do that so then they will go for what they can do.

Our number one priority is what we are breeding for though and under no circumstances will they be sold as family pets. I feel selling dogs with strong drives as family pets is just setting up problems. They are meant to work and they love to work so that is what we intend to have them do.
 
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I also think at this point it is important to remember what this thread is about and not to again start re hashing my life and my business. I have mentors and I have professionals helping me and there is no need for people with their pets to worry about what I am doing.
 
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Yes people please lets keep threads on topic, what Yuckaduck does with her puppys is up to her, they will all recive the best care and only be sold to the correct homes. I think its time people let it rest and got on with their own lives!
 

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There's no fenced yard and no outdoor run for the dog. Instead she's allowed to run loose with the rest of the neighborhood dogs and may or may not be pregnant. Well, if she's not pregnant now, she very likely will be when she comes into season next time. Spaying is the best (and IMO the only) course of action for this dog. Unfortunately, if the poster's parents won't pay for a run, it's unlikely they'll pay for a spay either.
To be blunt, these owners are not responsible enough to own a dog shown in conformation. If you're going to keep a dog intact for any type of activity, whether it be sport or showing, you better be prepared to keep her under lock and key when she goes into heat!
This is how BYBs are born.
 
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Wow, lots of info to read through! lol, well I must say I think the best option for my pup is to be spayed. My "Dad" as we will call him, is very cheap, and I think he would possibly pay for her to be spayed, but not for a dog run, because he agrees dogs should go where they please, which I totally do not agree with. We live out in the country, so there are no leash laws where we live, I have checked into that. I have tried my hardest to give this dog whats best, but unfortunetly my lazy dad will not agree with anything I mention about puting up a fenced yard. As far as showing goes, I dont think I will be able to with this pup anymore. We spent lots of cash for this pup and she IS of showing cabablity. She fits all requirements. And as far as expierience goes, my "dad's" mother has expierience in showing her own dogs and said she would teach me about showing my own pup. She is a very responsible dog owner, who I think would be on my side if I metioned this topic to her.
So I think its time now to call our vet, and see what he thinks! I can always get another dog of showing capability, but Im not sure if my "dad" will allow any more dogs, or pets for that matter, into this house. He is a very big dog lover, and hates all other animals.. this I do not get. He will not even allow us to get another family cat. Right now all we have is the golden pup, and my two keets that I tend to myself. I appreciate all the help and information all you guys have given me! and its really opened my eyes about how serious this matter is. I will be posting again on her update, whether she gets spayed or not. Thanks again! you all were of GREAT help!
 

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Sounds like you have a good head on your shoulders :) What kind of showing did you want to do? There is still plenty out there you can do.
 
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I was originally wanting to do conformation with my pup, but agility is also an option. As of now I am really not sure, my friend does agility with her dog, and says she loves it! so maybe I'll look into that.
 

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I'm sure you'll find something both of you will love. With your lifestyle, spaying is definitely the best option. You won't have to worry about heat cycles, mood swings, pregnancy, and her health. You'll both be happier. Get some experience first and then decide what you want to do. :)
 

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Can I ask is it a definate rule that bitches in the USA have to be intact for conformation showing? here in the UK KC rules state that the dogs cannot have any operations to alter the conformation of a dog EXCEPT THE SPEYING OF BITCHES TO PREVENT BREEDING AND WITH THE KC permission, which means you can have your bitch speyed, you contact the KC and tell them that it is to prevent breeding, and they send you a letter giving you permission to show at all KC rule shows. and speyed bitches are also harder to detect than a neutered male. can someone who knows FOR SURE tell me please.


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Good luck and you are a very mature responsible person who obviously cares about the best interestes of your dog.
 

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Moe... I was wondering about the rules too....how can a judge tell if a dog is spayed or had a caesarian ?? Kami... you're a cool kid !! We lived in the country too, but I strung a long line between 2 trees and used it for my females .... like a clothes line with a sliding chain .... just long enough for the dogs to be able to lie down, but not get tangled. Good luck !!! ( BTW... I had to have a litter aborted and though sad, it was neccessary.
 

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