Now, I'm a new member here, my family has always purchased dogs from BYBs and never had a problem with an animal, and I never really thought about BYBs being all that terrible until I got here and I found everyone to be EXTREMELY INTENSE about it.
To be honest, I've always viewed the purebred breeders as the villians because they seemed so elitist to me. Everyone that has bred dogs has added to overpopulation, and that's a fact. You make more puppies, there's a higher puppy population, period. I get now that reputable breeders are preserving a breed's health and disposition and so the fact that they are adding to overpopulation is okay because they're creating healthy dogs...or something. Okay, maybe I still don't get it entirely. That's okay. I'm not getting another dog for a long time, I already have a dog from a BYB and what's done is done, and I'll keep fighting to understand this whole argument, really I will. The problem is that I can seldom actually make out the argument through all the emotional attacks being thrown. I have to literally force myself to read each post because I find myself reading the first sentence and going, "oh boy, not this jerk again..." What shocks me the most is not the argument, because I can kind of make that out and sympathize. Probably when I get it totally I'll full-on agree. What is shocking is the way that many people in this forum approach other people, especially new people.
Its like a train wreck aint it. Much like your long winded defense of BYB and how villainous purebred breeders are for wanting to know their litters are going to screened homes and not just sold for cash.
I apologize for anything that we have done that would scare you. Most people who make the statement you did are usually quite brittle and need to constantly keep themselves offended to deal with their own every day life.
I am scared to post or socialize on this forum. I'm making myself do it, but I'm also reading old posts and the more I'm exposed to, the more afraid I am that everyone is going to attack me. Many of you are mocking and sarcastic and throw underhanded insults at one another and then pretend like if you didn't say it outright, it wasn't suggested. I want to like you all, and I want to learn, but many of you outright scare me. I don't remember specific names, either. I'm new. All I get is the feeling that the new guy said this and everybody else said this, a million to one. It makes everybody look bad, not just the individuals who are actually saying it.
Im sorry you feel that way, the majority of posters on Chaz really are a fun loving bunch who only want whats best for the dog owning community. Yes we do have those who do want to ruffle feathers with their direct and indirect insults but you will find that on every forum, but when I step over the line directly or indirectly I will own up and eat my share of crow. The OP on this thread leaped over the line caused a stir and faded into the background how very noble.
I read the whole, "this post is okay because we educated lurkers" thing, but honestly, if you handed this thread to a person with little to no dog knowledge and had them read it cold-turkey, I think most would come off thinking you were snobbish and would consequently bad-mouth purebred breeders as elitist. I did this, actually, linked this site for a friend of mine, and that was the reaction.
Maybe the OP is out to get a rise out of you. But you don't end up looking great to the lurking masses when you close your eyes, fling insults, and insist that "I didn't see it!" The OP gave curt responses meant to make the opposition look over-aggressive and irrational. Guess what? He met with success. I read a lot of comments generally along the lines of: "look, we said your puppy was cute, okay, just admit that you messed up and tell us you won't do it again!" This feels like a religious confession and repentance. I feel like I've joined a dog cult and the forum is God. You can see why I'm a little iffy here.
And as for the "Well if you can't handle it, leave this forum! Survival of the fittest!" argument? I think that's what makes this forum feel so elitist. For heaven's sake, I'm not here to prove I'm made out of steel and NOTHING CAN KILL ME, I'm here to talk to more experienced people about healthy dog treats and making him comfortable with nail clipping.
I don't want to turn this argument around and seem like an abrasive trouble-maker attacking the Forum Gospel. I just think it's important to let those who are particularly passionate and maybe even a little over-the-top know that sometimes their opinions come across as a little too fire and brimstone for the beginners.
This post isn't a threat saying that if you don't shape up, I'm out. I just feel like I might hit a point where I feel like I have to leave this forum because it's too aggressive, and I think it's only fair to let everyone see why I feel like that.
I actually wondered whether he really owned this puppy as well. That's an awful lot of really nice photos for a small pup that was allegedly just brought home the day before. Darby has been with us 2 months and she's still not done as many cute things as that Goldendoodle apparently did in one afternoon. But who knows?
(EDIT - I should add that if this really is his pup and he took these on day one as he says, then well done. The dog and photos are great.)
If you click the link for pics , look at the 3rd one down. then scroll up and click see more pics in blue. look at the pic of the woman holding the dog. Is it just me or does it look like it grew like crazy between 6/2 (when they say they got it) and 6/7 when the pic was taken?