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skyeboxer

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Okay, long story ...

For some reason this dog reminded me of Buddy (Buddy's parents). He's black and white PB or PB mix. He was in the park in front of our house the first time we saw him. he played with Skye great, no owner in sight. When SO approached him he shyed off, same with me so good with female dogs, shy with people. Expensive looking collar on, not bad shape. It's not uncommon for dogs to wander near the houses with owners out of sight, so we were not too worried about him.

A week later and Bud is back. Thinner this time and his coat is no longer so glossy. SO is out early morning with Skye and a neighbour with a young male black retriever is out at the same time. Buddy gallops about with Skye but plays and tolerates the young male too. Now, it's more worrying. He's not looking well kept. SO slipped Skye's lead over the dog's head and brought him home but the dog was very scared of people, was shaking and literally had to be dragged inside the gate. . I seperated Skye from him while I put out some food and water for the dog. He drank but didn't eat.

The guy with the retriever had said to SO if we did not want to keep him he'd take him in or take him to the shelter. He was a sweet dog but with two little kids and two cats, plus Skye a bit achy with arthritis and I know nothing about him, I thought he's be better to go with the young guy. SO took the dog round to him.

To my great pissed-offedness there was Buddy in the park again this morning - still skinnier. SO had a hospital appointment, so left him on our patio and this time called the police. I gave Buddy food and water - again he drank but did not eat. My daughter was at her grans for the night so I didn't have to deal with her fussing over the dog which was a relief. Still he slipped the lead and came to sit at the house grill to commune with Skye. The cats, for once steered a wide berth.

The police called and asked me to take the dog into the park.

I took Sami and Buddy into the park. Out of the patio he was so much happier, pulled like almighty on the leash, but his tail was flapping like a flag, belly up rolling in the grass and I can see he had a wound on his tummy (cause of the eating problem?) not raw, but evident.

I sat on a wall to wait for the police and Buddy casually leaned against my leg. Polce were a no-show, so I returned to the house and on the way one of my cats wandered down the path. Buddy lunged at her but a sharp no and he came right back to my side. He cringed in fact which is obviously not a good sign. He was tense when Lili was hanging about but relaxed as soon as she perched out the way to watch him from on high.

Police called again and off I went into the park. Again a no-show. Returned to the house. By this time Buddy either thought I was off my rocker or had started to completely relax. He looked at me several times tongue out grinning.

Police called again and I said for god sake this is killing me, come to the front door. Which they did too soon afterwards. I had Bud on Skye's lead and the guy who came was a big overpowering looking guy. he rattled this great chain and Buddy cowered and rolled his eyes. he was scared all over again.

Long story short, the police will check if he is chipped. If not, he'll have a month's grace. I can't bear the thought of anything happening to him. I asked them to call me if they couldn't find the owner. But I am unsure whether I could trust this dogs with my children and cats.

If the police call and say his time is up, I know I would take him in even if only temporarily to find him a new home. But PB owners/experienced folks ... what are the chances of a (guessing at age) 1.5 to 2 year, people shy, possibly cat aggressive, though sweet when relaxed dog like this coping wth young boisterous kids?

I am heartbroken that I let Buddy go this morning ... though I know I won't let them put him to sleep unless he does indeed prove to be aggressive.

Very sad and not at all sure that I did the right thing. :( If HE was already people shy another month in the police pound is going to make him worse. Wish I'd taken a photo to show you all.

Now, I think if I'd kept him here he'd be settled by now and snoring along wth Skye. Instead he's probably curled up shaking and scared in some grim cage.
 

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:(

You need to think of you and yours first and foremost.

I believe that every dog deserves a chance. With proper socialization, training and love, he could very well turn into a great dog. However, not every dog can be "fixed."
 

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I think you did the right thing for now. Give his owner a chance to find him. You said he looked well cared-for when you first saw him so that is something to his owner's credit.

If you'd like, volunteer to work with the dog at the pound. Take him home for visits or just spend happy time with him at the shelter working to make him placeable. You may be able to work something out with the shelter to pay for his board beyond the month or you may decide to take him home as a foster until another home is found or you find he works well in your home.

There are still all these options open to you and they don't have to be decided now. Sleep on it over the weekend, talk to your family.
 

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Oh...that is heartbreaking :( But like others have said, I think you did the right thing.

I couldn't agree with you more Jason
If you'd like, volunteer to work with the dog at the pound. Take him home for visits or just spend happy time with him at the shelter working to make him placeable. You may be able to work something out with the shelter to pay for his board beyond the month or you may decide to take him home as a foster until another home is found or you find he works well in your home.

There are still all these options open to you and they don't have to be decided now. Sleep on it over the weekend, talk to your family.
 

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Thank you guys but this is Tenerife. I asked for a number to call and they fudged and buggered about. I asked where the police pound was, they ducked and dived. In the end I forced pen and paper on them so they'd take my number.

I do have record of the general dept that handled the pick up and we've decided that at the very least we're going to take Skye's current bed (it's only two weeks old, so comfy and puffy and warm still, miles better than stone cold floor) with her scent and the cat Lili, because they sleep together and at least try to pass that to Buddy, He didn't spend much time with us, but he may remember Skye's scent, he seemed to cleave to her for some reaosn and if we get him back the smell of Lili certainly won't hurt.

We've talked about it a lot tonight and are in agreement that this is a lovely dog that deserves another chance. Maybe with us, maybe somewhere else. But if I know he has a one month chance to find an owner that may have kicked him out because of some tummy trouble or face the big needle, I think we'll be bringing him back here for a while.

It was the leaning against me with a big soft sigh that did me in. I think he's afraid of men more than women. I just have no experience with this kind of dog breed. He came right to my leg when I gruffed at him about sighting on Lili ... but can I handle that much dog?

I don't know and I surely don't want to break his heart again.

We'll call the police tomorrow ... or given that no-one will talk sense on a Sunday here, Monday at the latest and I'll let you know.

Jason - volunteering at the pound is not an option. Though I'd love to do it, I do not have a spare minute in the day. Which is not to say I coudn't handle another dog in the house, I work from home. My animals are around me all day but I don't drive and with two little kids and SO out with the car, I couldn't commit to the travelling time.

But if Bud came home with me he'd be around people, kids and cats and birds. I am slowly talking myself into heartbreak here, I know it. Fingers crossed, poor Buddy was just a wanderer and his owner will be delighted to find him.
 

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Okay. An update on Bud.

My SO had a chance to speak to the wife of the man who'd originally said he'd take the dog in or to the shelter. Bud stayed with that woman in her house all day. She said he was quiet and sweet. Unfortunately it seems that the dog was recognised by another neighbour whose PB is Bud's father.

He knew who'd taken him as a pup, got back in touch and told him to come pick Bud up.

That's what happened but then Bud did a runner and that's when he came to us the second time. The lady who's had him for the day suspects that he may have been slapped about quite a bit and now has a habit of heading for the hills.

He is also apparently chipped so the police will be able to trace the owner. If he wants the dog back, I suppose he'll get a fine. If not, then Bud will have a month's grace and we should hear from them.

I'll let you know when I hear more.
 

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I honestly don't know what to say. I have been in similar situations with cats, where my cats' health would be in danger due to certain illnesses. It's a tough call, but the truth is, you cannot save them all-- and first and formost comes your family.
 

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Thanks Tosca,

I know it really and my kids and current pets have to come first. Still, I feel so sad and guilty about this poor dog. If I could turn back time I would have handled the situation differently. Now I just think he's either going to go back to a possibly abusive owner or the police may automatically PTS because of the breed. They were very vague when I asked about what was going to happen.

:(
 

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Skye, when you work in rescue of animals you always have regrets. I have one that has haunted me for several years. But the truth is you have to weigh things against what could turn out to be even more painful regrets in the future. I think that is where you are at. You did the right thing Skye, make no mistake about it. Will you regret? Yes. But imagine the potential scenario if you were to take this dog in and I think you understand what I mean. We do the best we can, Skye. And questioning the wisdom of taking this dog in is the wise thing to do.
 

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