Makes me sick at my stomach

[bogolove]

I am literally sick at my stomach after reading this.....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19028969/site/newsweek/page/2/

How can people do this? Have we already talked about this? If we have, sorry, I haven't had a chance to get on in a few days.

 

[Spirit2010]

omg, I am sick to my stomach, really badly after reading that!! Those poor dogs!!

 

[Miakoda]

Sad yes.

But again, an article full of misinformation & using untruths to persuade their audience.

According to the people involved in that article, I'm a dogfighter & train all my dogs to fight including our Rottweiler, Olde English Bulldogge, & the Dogo. How is that you ask? Because we weight pull with the majority of them, they all play with the springpole & flirtpole, we own 5 breaksticks located throughout the house just in case (although 1 is a decorative handcarved one), we put every single dog on the treadmill at least every other day, etc.

I'm tired of reading that crap of "how to know if your neighbor is a dogfighter."

 

[McKenzie]

Why do you need a breakstick if your not fighting your dogs?

 

[Gempress]

Sad yes.

But again, an article full of misinformation & using untruths to persuade their audience.

According to the people involved in that article, I'm a dogfighter & train all my dogs to fight including our Rottweiler, Olde English Bulldogge, & the Dogo. How is that you ask? Because we weight pull with the majority of them, they all play with the springpole & flirtpole, we own 5 breaksticks located throughout the house just in case (although 1 is a decorative handcarved one), we put every single dog on the treadmill at least every other day, etc.

I disagree. The reporter/interviewer asked how the dogs are conditioned, and the officer answered. He was being honest. And he said, "These dogs are conditioned, not trained." A lot of pet owners do the same exercises for the same reason: conditioning. The difference is that we don't expect our pets to maul each other to bet some money.

 

[Kayla]

Why do you need a breakstick if your not fighting your dogs?

Being the responsible multiple pit and dog owner that Miakoda is, it would be reckless for him/her (sorry I don't read enough posts to know what gender you are) to not have breaksticks ready incase a fight should breakout between his/her dogs. Due to the style in which pitties inflict their bites (grab and hold) and because of how powerful their grip is ( no they don't have lock jaws) breaksticks are a nessicary tool that all pit owners should own incase their dogs should start a fight with another dog in their house. Breaksticks are inserted in the mouth and are used to essentially lodge two dogs off each other.

Which considering their natural tendancies towards dog aggression, owners should always be expecting it to happen and be prepared to deal with it if it should arrise. Though being prepared if you own multiple dogs, regardless of sex applies for non- pit, owners as well and every multiple dog household should have plans for what to do if a dog fight should occur.
The only reason most other breed dog owners do not carry break sticks is because most breeds tend to snap and lash out when fighting another dog ,increasing the risk of you being bitten and rendering a break stick useless.

I think the article has good intentions, and I believe it's important that people realise how commong dog fighting is everywhere, even in their own city. However I do think to some extents it misportrays dog fighters, as all of the conditioning items used by trainers are also commonly used by responibly owners. The only difference is responsible owners besides not intending to fight their dogs,are not going to be as secretive and as such are more likely to have a neighbour call in on them to the AC in that area and possibly have their dogs taken away for owning "dog fighting paraphenillia".

None the less real dog fighting is a disgusting and sad reality even today, however I feel that article while trying to bring to light a very serious situation does nothing more then to possibly bring a few responsible owners under fire from ignorant and misinformed neighbours.

Kayla

 

[meco]

Sick sick sick:yikes:

 

[Miakoda]

Great post, Kayla! Well said. :hail:

 

[Peaches 'n Cream]

Wow. Thats so cruel. It seems like some people will be willing to put any two living things into a pen and watch them maul themselves for money.
This reminds me of this creepy old guy who lives out in the country who was raising fighting roosters. Me and my brother discovered the place when we went for a bike ride out in the counrty. They were beautiful roosters, all of them chained to seperate white plastic tipie like things. They were surounded by barbed wire fences and guard dogs were barking like mad up on the hill that the guy lived on. We were trying to figure out what the whole thing was when this guy came walking out of his house and saw us. Eeeek. He was CREEPY. We high-tailed it out of there FAST.
Gah I hate it when you stubble across these types of things.

 

[McKenzie]

Which considering their natural tendancies towards dog aggression, owners should always be expecting it to happen and be prepared to deal with it if it should arrise.

If that is the case then why are you suprised that people want these dog's banned?

 

[Miakoda]

If that is the case then why are you suprised that people want these dog's banned?

EVERY single breed of dog has dog aggressive dogs within it. Every single type of mutt out there has dog aggressive dogs within their ranks. So according to you, all dogs should be banned.

Dog aggression has absolutely nothing to do with human aggression nor does dog aggression lead to human aggression or vice versa. They are 2 completely separate forms of aggression as is food aggression, resource guarding/aggression, etc..............

And although dog aggression is considered an underlying trait of the APBT, AST, SBT, BT........heck ALL bulldog breeds, it does not define them. Instead you should look to the breed standard which calls for them to have stable temperaments, be loving & accepting to all humans, etc.

 

[Kayla]

Just wanted to add to Miakoda's post by saying Bullies were not the only breed developed to have dog aggression. Shar-pei's along with various other breeds are notorious for strong dog aggression. Like Miakoda said this had nothing to do with human aggression and a responsible owned dog aggressive dog will never present a problem to public safety.

This is why emphasis is ALWAYS put on dealing with irresponsible owners not individual dog breeds. When this happens innocent, well behaved dogs pay the price. In some countries up to 75 breeds including pugs and spaniels have been banned due to close minded legislation.

 

[Nancy Lou]

That is sick and BSL is still wrong

 

[McKenzie]

So according to you, all dogs should be banned

That's not according to me, I was just saying with a comment like that its no wonder people react that way.