Gah dogfight!

Suzzie

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well really, more of a one-sided hair ripping.

I fed the dogs and Roofus didn't eat (not unusual), so I just left his food out (stupid me), even though I normally stand there while everyone eats. He has a really tall feeder, about 24" off the ground, and the only other dog that can eat out of it is Blossom. I let Blossom eat out of it if she wants because she is extremely skinny and doesn't like food. Seriously. She just recently started eating all by her own (six years later, she eats LOL) so I am pretty lenient with the amount she gets. No one else likes it because if they stand on the feeder, it moves.

Popper and Merlin both are aggressive about Roo's food, hence why I usually pick it up. They lie in wait under the kitchen table for a dog to growl at. Well, I guess Blossom was either heading for his food dish or maybe just walking by (former more likely), because all the sudden I hear the beagle screech of annoyance followed by thumping and claws trying to get traction on hardwood. I ran into the kitchen, knocking everything in my path over as I went, and there's Popper growling, snarling and snapping on TOP of Blossom (twice his height), who is scrambling around frantically just trying to get away. I had to physically restrain Popper (which isn't easy considering he's a little dog) so she could leave, and for nearly some time after that as he kept growling at ALL the other dogs (who of course came to see what was happening)..

Blossom had some hair ripped out, was pretty saliva'd up and was shaking badly, but she is okay. A short time later, Popper walked up to Blossom, waggled his tail once or twice, ducked his head, then popped up and licked her on her face. Maybe a doggie apology? Who knows.

I did, btw, pick the food bowl up. Roofus can learn to eat when it's dinnertime.

Popper has become increasingly aggressive about that food bowl... I did start severely limiting his food intake a few months back, and now he's slim and trim, but that's why, I think, he's become a "food jerk." I really wish I could go back to free feeding - I never had any problems with food aggression then. But that's how he bulked up in the first place. I just have to keep that food bowl out of sight, out of mind whenever there's food in it.

Now Popper is trying to suck up to me because he knows he was bad. I think I can ignore him for another fifteen minutes before I have to give him some lovins.
 

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Man, scuffles sure can blow your nerves!

While I'm not a fan of free feeding or allowing dogs to eat unattended in the same space (just asking for trouble, IMO), if you still wanted to allow that in your house I would feed Popper and Merlin separately in crates and give the others some time to eat on their own.

Once again, though, I'm a fan of everyone eating separately and supervised. I don't even allow dogs to investigate bowls when finished, it's just too risky if someone decides to have an "off" day.
 

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I can set up 3 or 4 stations in a row with no problems when the dogs are all familiar with each other . When I had my XSIL's Annie here , I fed her in kitchen alone as she's a slow eater .. Was fun to watch . The outsiders finish and sit and wait until all are done then they all check out each other's bowls . Then the came into kitchen and wait for Annie to finish . Annie goes out to check theirs and they all check Annie's ......no dog bowl washing here !
 

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Popper doesn't have a problem with the dogs eating - he stands by their bowl and patiently waits for them to finish so he can lick it out. He'll leapfrog from dog to dog wanting their food (he is always done first). It's ONLY roofus's bowl that he has a problem with, and only if there's food left in it... maybe because it's higher? Who knows. All merlin does is growl, and the only dog intimidated by merlin's growling is Roofus. They do all eat in separate locations, but in the kitchen. I'm used to him snarfing the other dogs' food if they leave any so I stand and watch like a hawk until they're done eating.

At any rate, he had another scuffle with Blossom outside when we were playing. I tossed her a treat, she missed, and he attacked her. NOT acceptable. I was standing right there so I ended it nearly immediately, but I don't know what's up his butt today. It's also an issue because Blossom is deaf and can't hear any warning growls.
 

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I think it would only take ONE scuffle for me to decide on separate feedings. It might be a little more work, but a lot less stress ;)

Phoebe and Orson eat at the same time in the same room............they are at different sides of the room.

They have never had an issue over food, neither one is food aggressive and them being opposite sex probably helps out there too. Especially since Phoebe is the head honcho anyway, LOL
 

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I would use this as a training oppertunity instead of just seperating them while eating. A friend -who has peaches of dogs one of which is blind- taught me about corrections. Use a "limber-timber" -a limber stick, that is- about 1 foot long. When they do something inapropriate, wop them 3 times gently but firmly on their hind end saying "no!" NOT in anger, though! I actually say
"tut-tut!!" instead, but thats just me. The stick cannot and will not hurt them! It may hurt for a second, but it can't hurt them! I use sticks off a maple tree. I just started doing this a few months ago, and I can already see a change in the relashinship and obedience of the dogs! 1 time Banjo was disobedient about something, and all I said was, do you need a correction? And he immediatly stoped. I think it was barking crazily after a skate-board went by like 15 minutes ago. Imediate obedience! And I love my dogs!!!! this is not being cruel!! I promise!
 

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Kyrsqueena, you will find that most of us here DO NOT agree with hitting our dogs in any way shape for form.

You may be seeing what you believe are results, but I don't for one minute believe your dogs are listening out of obedience, they are listening out of fear of being struck with that stick.

Please don't take the bad advice of your friend.........you can get a lot more flies with honey than you can with vinegar, in other words, your dogs can be trained to listen to you because you have worked hard and instilled the good behavior in them instead of making them fear the consequence.

I know you are very young, but please believe that your friend gave you some REALLY bad advice :(
 

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Ditto to what ACooper said, hitting dogs with sticks is a no-no in behaviour modifcation.

I would seperate feedings are a must, I know you have a lot of dogs but it is something I would strongly urge you to consider.
 

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