Eukanuba

[rottnpagan]

Well, to start with, I'd rather feed my dog food that is actually made with quality meats, and not rancid fats. I feed Wellness, and it's first ingredient is high quality (ie human grade) meat. Dogs prefer to eat meats, not corn. I also give my dogs raw bloody meats and organs. They absolutely love it.

Try looking at some of these links.

Mordanna.com

Food Pets Die For.

 

[chloesowner]

we give chloe the jibblets every thanksgiving and whenever we have chicken.

 

[Saje]

no cooked bones I hope

 

[chloesowner]

nnnnooooppppeee

 

[Ruckus]

Nothing is really wrong with it. It's not like their actually selling you cat food and calling it dog food. It will keep your dog alive but it's just not as good as some of the other dog food selections that are available. Not only are you spending a lot of money on a not so good food you are also feeding a lot more. You could spend maybe a few dollars more on a better quality food and feed less of it and so you'd be saving money. Lets just say, hypothetically speaking, you are feeding your puppy 5 cups of Eukanuba a day, well with lets say Eagle Pack (agian hypothetically speaking) you may only need to feed her 2 cups a day. So right there you are feeding your dog 3 cups less of the Eukanuba and she will poop less and it will be easier to clean up, she will be eating a better quality food that contains no by-products, and you most likely will notice a difference in her coat and probably shedding if she sheds a lot. I know when I switched my dog back onto Eagle Pack she was shedding like crazy and now it's back down to a manageable level.

did you read this quote chloesowner? also, did you read Saje's posts? if you did, then you should understand why Eukanuba isnt highly recommended here.

 

[Gallien Jacks]

Its not the lowest food but its not great either, i you have to chance I would switch

 

[Ash47]

rottn gave you some great links. Mordy's site is excellent and taught me everything I know about dogfood. I never knew that there were bad foods and good foods. Maybe they look more expensive, but in the end, you will be paying the same as if you were buying the lower quality food, because they eat smaller portions of the higher quality stuff.
I know right now, it's not your choice what she gets though.

 

[Bowowee]

Eukanuba is superb! The problem is, the dogs poop is very, very smelly.

 

[Athebeau]

Eukanuba Lamb Ingredients:
lamb, brewers rice, corn meal, fish meal, ground whole grain sorghum, dried egg product, ground whole grain barley, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols, a source of vitamin E, and citric acid), dried beet pulp (sugar removed), natural chicken flavor, brewers dried yeast, potassium chloride, salt, calcium carbonate, sodium hexametaphosphate, vitamins (vitamin E supplement, ascorbic acid, beta-carotene, vitamin a acetate, calcium pantothenate, biotin, vitamin B12 supplement, thiamine mononitrate (source of vitamin B1), niacin, riboflavin supplement (source of vitamin B2), inositol, pyridoxine hydrochloride (source of vitamin B6), vitamin B3 supplement, folic acid), choline chloride, minerals (ferrous sulfate, zinc oxide, manganese sulfate, copper sulfate, manganous oxide, potassium iodide, cobalt carbonate), dl-methionine, dicalcium phosphate, rosemary extract

Eukanuba Original - Adult Maintenance Small Bite Formula
[same ingredients as the "Adult Maintenance Formula" but in a smaller kibble size]
Ingredients:
Chicken, chicken by-product meal, corn meal, ground whole grain sorghum, ground whole grain barley, fish meal, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols, a source of vitamin E, and citric acid), brewers rice, natural chicken flavor, dried beet pulp (sugar removed), dried egg product, brewers dried yeast, potassium chloride, salt, sodium hexametaphosphate, calcium carbonate, flax meal, choline chloride, ferrous sulfate, dl-methionine, vitamin E supplement, beta carotene, zinc oxide, ascorbic acid, manganese sulfate, copper sulfate, manganous oxide, vitamin A acetate, calcium pantothenate, biotin, rosemary extract, vitamin B12 supplement, thiamine mononitrate (source of vitamin B1), niacin, riboflavin supplement (source of vitamin B2), inositol, pyridoxine hydrochloride (source of vitamin B6), vitamin D3 supplement, potassium iodide, folic acid, cobalt carbonate

I put the ingredients in red that I am not comfortable with. Mordy will be able to tell you why I am uncomfortable with them

Eukanuba adds salt, I would be wary of that as your your dog is getting enough salt naturally without more being added. Too much salt in a diet can lead to chronic kidney disease, this may not show up for years. Salt taxes the kidneys and excess amounts will stress them.

I'd also be very wary of "fish meal", I think Mordy mentioned once that fish meal is more likely to have a dangerous chemical called Ethoxyquin. Not only is Ethoxyquin most likely in fish meal, but, were it is 3rd party Proctor and Gamble (Eukanuba) does not have to list it. Ethoxyquin was originally developed as a rubber hardener and herbicide. Ethoxyquin is a cheap preservative and is known to affect your dogs antioxidant system, cell membranes adn metabolic processes. Ethoxyquin - preserved diets also have been linked to seizures. For myself I would be very wary of fish meal in my dogs food due to the high risk that it contains this dangerous preservative.

Brewer's rice is the small milled fragments of rice kernels that have been separated from the larger kernels of milled rice.
Brewer's rice is a lower quality rice product that is missing many of the nutrients found in ground rice and ground brown rice. (See the descriptions for those ingredients.) Natura uses only whole ingredients, with their nutrients still intact.

Corn meal is the entire corn kernel, finely ground.
While the whole corn kernel is nutritious and follows Natura's philosophy of supplying whole grain nutrition, corn is considered to be highly allergenic.
Fish meal is the clean, rendered (cooked down), dried ground tissue of undecomposed whole fish or fish cuttings, either or both, with or without the extraction of part of the oil.

Fish meal is made from unspecified types of fish. While fish meal can be a good source of essential fatty acids and is very palatable for cats, the ambiguous nature of this ingredient puts it on our unapproved ingredient list.

Sorghum is the ground grain of the sorghum plant.
Sorghum is a member of the grass family; its leaves and stalk resemble corn but it does not have ears. Although sorghum is good source of carbohydrates, it is low in digestibility and therefore not used in Natura products.

Sodium Hexametaphosphate is used as sequestering agent. It is used in the industry of soap, detergents, water treatment, metal finishing and plating, pulp and paper manufacture, synthesis of polymers, photographic products, textiles, scale removal and agriculture Does this make you feel comfortable, knowing that you are feeding this to your best friend daily
Here are some links to read more about this ingredient in Eukanuba
http://www.chemicalland21.com/arokorhi/industrialchem/inorganic/SODIUM HEXAMETAPHOSPHATE.htm

While most dogs eating commercial food appear healthy despite consuming some of the above dangerous ingredients daily, the consequence of long-term consumpiton of multiple chemicals just isn't known. Food allergies, gastrointestinal troubles, and thyroid disease appear to be increasing in dogs, and some feel that repeated exposure to the wide variety of chemicals present in some commercial foods may be responsible. Daily bombardment of your dog's system may damage cells, perhaps even creating a great risk of cancer.

chloesowner, I hope I answered your question of "why" Eukanuba is not a top food choice for pet owners. There are many "good" quality foods out there that on a pound per pound cost less than Eukanuba. Eukanuba is a high priced inferior food that the company is using a lot of advertising to lead consumers into false security that it is a "top" rated dog food. Sadly looking at the ingredient list it proves them wrong and they spend more money on animal testing and advertising than quality food ingredients.

Most dog breeders and show people recommend Iam/Eukanuba because they sponser dog shows, send free puppy packs and to be honest breeders are treated like royality by Eukanuba..by giving free stuff and backing them through events they are generating customers for long term breeder backed sales. For dog shows Eukanuba gives free bags of food, prizes such as freesbee's (sp?), cute neck ties, balls, toys, blankets, food bins, dishes, drool clothes etc. They also provide tents, and other important items to conduct the dog show.

Breeders receive perks as well, I know this as a friend of mine is a big time Eukanuba backer, she breeds Newf's and she gets all kinds of free items, just last year she won a Dell computer from Eukanuba for high sales. This is why Vet's and Breeders sponsor and back such poor quality foods. You should see what my vet sells...Medical, we knicknamed Medi-Kill...the ingredients are terrifying! and Vets back this product which is even worse than Eukanuba. So, myself, I would never take the word of a Vet or Breeder, I always think what are they gaining..???

Sorry to be long winded...

 

[gaddylovesdogs]

I don't like Eukanuba. Not a great food and they abuse their test animals. www.iamscruelty.com (Euk is made by the same company and Iams)

 

[rottnpagan]

I put the ingredients in red that I am not comfortable with. Mordy will be able to tell you why I am uncomfortable with them

*edited some*

Breeders receive perks as well, I know this as a friend of mine is a big time Eukanuba backer, she breeds Newf's and she gets all kinds of free items, just last year she won a Dell computer from Eukanuba for high sales. This is why Vet's and Breeders sponsor and back such poor quality foods. You should see what my vet sells...Medical, we knicknamed Medi-Kill...the ingredients are terrifying! and Vets back this product which is even worse than Eukanuba. So, myself, I would never take the word of a Vet or Breeder, I always think what are they gaining..???

Sorry to be long winded...

Is Mordy Mordanna? I had no idea!! I use that site to reference often!!

Also, a point worth noting is that vets don't receive much training, if any, on proper nutrition for dogs.

 

[Sirius]

I would never feed my dogs Euk. same reasons as Gaddy, www.iamscruelty.com

Odie was on Euk at the shelter so I had to buy a small one, but now she is on Innova like the rest of the clan.

 

[tessa_s212]

Eukanuba= icky

 

[chloesowner]

Eukanube= NOT icky!

 

[Wings]

Chloesowner : I seriously suggest when you still have a chance, change to a better brand of food that is available and affordable to you. I used to have a minature schnauzer (champ bloodline & won various titles) He was on Ekanuba lamb & rice for almost all his entire life, he looked very healthy, like you said what your dog look like now, shiny coat & energetic. But when he reached age arnd 10 yrs, his immune system shuts down and develop a very very bad skin problem that sheds, smells and scratchy. Only thing that helped to clear was a steriod that the vet prescribe and after his course of steriod, the skin is back to its bad state. And he could not be on constant steriod since it would cause kidney failiure according to the vet.
After that I changed several kinds of food like science diet skin and coat and many more but none help and he had to be put down 'cos he is suffering too much. He almost scratch his whole body raw and bloody at some spot.
All this happen w/o knowing what can help him. I have never known food can be so destructive till I joined this forum and have since been very careful of what goes into my baby's food now. Food is the main source of things that impact directly on your buddies body.
I sincerely hope you can consider all the kind suggestions of the people here and you might change your mind.

 

[Babyblue5290]

I wouldn't feed my dogs Eukanuba unless I had NO other option at all!!! Why? Because I want my dogs to live a long, healthy life and by feeding them a higher quality food, although not insuring a long, healthy life, I give them a much better chance at it. Anyways, that's just my opinion.

 

[Saje]

Eukanuba is part of the Iams company which tortures it's animals. Is that OK with you?

Eukanuba uses inferior ingredients. Is that OK with you?

 

[Bowowee]

Hmmm just viewed the site. Interesting...

 

[Gallien Jacks]

Eukanuba is part of the Iams company which tortures it's animals. Is that OK with you?

Eukanuba uses inferior ingredients. Is that OK with you?

I think people shopuld always buy what they can, and if you can afford it change! Iams i feel is more well known i sure wouldnt want anything to do with this company!

 

[Mordy]

Is Mordy Mordanna? I had no idea!! I use that site to reference often!!

yup it's me allright.

hmm, i don't have much more to add here, athebeau explained the quality issues pretty well. more info is available at my website, just click the blue part of my signature.

iams and eukanuba used to be fairly good quality food until procter & gamble bought up the company in september 1999 and soon after that formulas were changed to be more profitable. then the iams line was introduced to the mass market, to compete with grocery store food.