I don't have one, but one of my techs breeds (her engie will be at Westminster, he's been heavily specialed and been a top engie for 2 years, he's well known!) and she brings her pups to work every day, so her engies play with my dobes daily. i cannot decide if my dobes think they are engies or her engies think they are dobes
nice dogs - too soft for me, and WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY too much hair