Can anyone with LGD tell me how they got CGC?

[oriondw]

Im thinking about "attempting" to get it again, for my personal pleasure and so that my neighbors can finnaly shut up about him.


Anyways, how hard was it? Did you do specific training for it?

Is it passable with a very protective dog that doesnt like most other dogs?

Should I start asking my trainer friends to do it for me with friend dogs instead of just random dogs??

 

[IliamnasQuest]

The CGC is very basic and any dog with a bit of training should be able to pass it. Your dog never has to be face-to-face with another dog. The closest they come is that you have to go up and shake hands with another person who also has a dog. But since both dogs are at their owner's left sides, the dogs don't really have contact. And you can keep your eyes on your dog, praise and encourage him to stay in a sit by your side as you shake the other person's hand.

Other than that, the dog must accept being approached and touched by strangers. Even a protective dog should accept strangers if their owner says it's okay.

You can read the different exercises here:

http://www.akc.org/events/cgc/training_testing.cfm

That will give you an idea of what you might need to work on with your particular dog.

Good luck, and have fun!

Melanie and the gang in Alaska

 

[Dobiegurl]

The CGC is fairly easy, and only basic obedience is needed to pass. I think your biggest problem would be the part where you dog must accept another person bringing him back to you. Your dog should know the difference between a threat and a friendly person and should be able to be handled by someone if you say its ok.



I know a LGD is a livestock guardian dog but is that a breed or what breeds are involved? What makes them different from other breeds? Just curious.

 

[oriondw]

The CGC is very basic and any dog with a bit of training should be able to pass it. Your dog never has to be face-to-face with another dog. The closest they come is that you have to go up and shake hands with another person who also has a dog. But since both dogs are at their owner's left sides, the dogs don't really have contact. And you can keep your eyes on your dog, praise and encourage him to stay in a sit by your side as you shake the other person's hand.

Other than that, the dog must accept being approached and touched by strangers. Even a protective dog should accept strangers if their owner says it's okay.

You can read the different exercises here:

http://www.akc.org/events/cgc/training_testing.cfm

That will give you an idea of what you might need to work on with your particular dog.

Good luck, and have fun!

Melanie and the gang in Alaska

Cool, cool.

We only have problems with other medium to giant dogs. No problems with people or small animals.


Our biggest problem is if we get another big dog, specifically a male dog.

He hates other bigger males, he's tolerant of females.

 

[oriondw]

The CGC is fairly easy, and only basic obedience is needed to pass. I think your biggest problem would be the part where you dog must accept another person bringing him back to you. Your dog should know the difference between a threat and a friendly person and should be able to be handled by someone if you say its ok.



I know a LGD is a livestock guardian dog but is that a breed or what breeds are involved? What makes them different from other breeds? Just curious.

That shouldnt be a problem. He's ok with other people handling him if he see's me accept them. He knows the difference between threats, but if he see's an actual threat he'll try to attack, not just growl and stuff.

LGD - basically big strong molloser with innate protection mindset.

 

[Dobiegurl]

That shouldnt be a problem. He knows the difference, but if he see's a real threat he'll try to attack, not just growl.

LGD - basically big strong molloser with innate protection mindset.

Thank you for the LGD def.

If I recall there is a part in the test where someone comes up running and screaming and acting crazy like they are a threat. In that situation the dog is supposed to step up and be alert but aren't suppose to even growl. Thats stupid, IMO, but thats the rules (I think).

 

[RD]

Dobiegurl I think that's a temperament test, not a CGC test. Read the link IliamnasQuest posted. That's all that goes on in CGC testing.

Good luck if you try it, orion.

 

[oriondw]

Thank you for the LGD def.

If I recall there is a part in the test where someone comes up running and screaming and acting crazy like they are a threat. In that situation the dog is supposed to step up and be alert but aren't suppose to even growl. Thats stupid, IMO, but thats the rules (I think).

hmn, if thats the case, then we wont pass, because in that situation he will attack.


Ill ask few trainers around here who do these in more detail though before i do it.

 

[Dobiegurl]

Well, they did that on Chico's CGC test (he failed though, oh well he's still young).

 

[bubbatd]

I've passed 4 and on to TDI ... it's really no big deal. The only problem you may have is the growling or any barking. Let us know and good luck !!! Even if you don't pass, it will tell you what to work on. I personally every dog should be able to pass this test.

 

[RD]

Well, they did that on Chico's CGC test (he failed though, oh well he's still young).

Wow. They definitely weren't "playing by the rules". The reaction test usually involves a loud noise, not a person running towards you and screaming. Almost any dog would percieve that as a threat and react to it.

 

[bubbatd]

That's in the TDI test...not CGC. When putting on a TDI testing... we always had someone ranting, trays crashing , people with walkers, canes swinging, wheel chairs etc. ...... things they could encounter in a hospital or nursing home.

 

[Dobiegurl]

Wow. They definitely weren't "playing by the rules". The reaction test usually involves a loud noise, not a person running towards you and screaming. Almost any dog would percieve that as a threat and react to it.

Well thats what they did, and Chico wasn't eexpecting it, and naturally he reacted, causing him not to pass. If that wasn't supposed to be part of the test then thats wrong because thats why he failed.

 

[DanL]

The "weird stranger" is NOT part of the CGC test! It's part of the TDI test.

Orion, the only part your dog may have a problem with is the approach another dog part- he can't growl or make any sound or attempt to even sniff the other dog. He pretty much has to ignore it. You are allowed to talk to him so if he knows any kind of "leave it" type stuff, you can tell him that. If you go to a CGC class, they might let you stack the test in your favor by letting you do that part of the test with a small dog.

The other part that may be tough is leaving your dog with a stranger and going out of sight for 3 minutes. He can't get anxious, or whine or bark. You need to be able to trust him with the stranger too.

He'll need to allow a stranger to approach him and pet him and touch his paws. Some dogs don't like the paw part.

I did this test with Gunnar when he was about 9 months old. We made a mistake and had him do it after a long class- he was wiped out and ready to go home. He barked at the dog on the approach test, and he started whining at 2:45 on the out of sight test. I feel confident that if we had done it before class he would have passed. My instructor said, do you want a gimme, or do you want him to earn it. I wanted him to earn it, not have them make it so he could pass. We'll do it again someday.

 

[Dobiegurl]

Thats messed up then. If they wouldn't have done that Chico would have passed. Im p*ssed off right now.