I dont know if any other dogs do this but according to 'the internet' boxers get them randomly. Ive seen my dog have three in the past month (we are going to the vet tonight for blood tests) its just her face that shakes. its like shes freezing cold and her face is twitching. they last about 3 minutes and its only when she wakes up. her eyes stay in place and she lies down when we tell her to no problem. they dont seem to hurt her and shes fully aware when it happens but im worried about her. has anyone else every seen there dog (boxer or others) do this?
boxer siezures
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Seizures are easily treated these days
try not too worry too much, i know of a dog who has had really bad epilpsy for the past 5 years and he is absolutely fine
Im sure she will be ok,
Boxers seizures are not common in the UK, so maybe it is more Common in the European Boxers but english ones are not known for having them.
i honestly have no idea but i know for a fact it isnt common here
try not too worry too much, i know of a dog who has had really bad epilpsy for the past 5 years and he is absolutely fine
Im sure she will be ok,
Boxers seizures are not common in the UK, so maybe it is more Common in the European Boxers but english ones are not known for having them.
i honestly have no idea but i know for a fact it isnt common here
I've had boxers for about 30 years now. I had one that had seizures from epilepsy in old age; however, I've had them also have episodes that look like small seizures and it's turned out to be a side effect of hypothyroidism. Ask your vet to run an extended thyroid panel, it's a blood test that shouldn't cost very much. If your dog is hypothyroid, thyroid meds are VERY cheap ... like under $10 per month ... and a lot less damaging to the liver than Pheno-Barbitol, the drug of choice for seizures/epilepsy. Thyroid pills are teeny and very easy to give. Pheno-Barbitol are about a little bigger than your average aspirin and can be harder to give. It's definitely worth looking into on either account though. The tests should not be expensive and your boxer can and will live a pretty normal existence if medication is necessary. Good Luck! 
Well we went to the vets and he decided not to do a blood test. I was a little ticked off because he put her on meds right away. He didnt act like it was a big deal seeing as shes only had 1 a week for the past month. He thinks its her coming out of her puppy stage. He gave us little pink pills ummm...phenobarbital or something im on my way to look them up. she has to take one in the morning and one at night and he said if she acts dopey to cut them in half. does he have a right to just give her meds without a blood test? she goes back in a month to see if shes okay and for blood tests then. hes been telling us hes going to run tests for a while now.
im sorry but i would deffinately get a different vets oppinion before giving her any drugsshe should be thoroughly checked AND have blood tests to confirm her condition, i cant belive he did that!
He should already know the correct dose of the medication, so if he said 'if she acts dopey to cut them in half'' then I for one would deffinately be going for another vets oppinion,
i hope you manage to get it sorted,
If I'm not mistaken, a Seizuring dog needs medication just like a seizuring person.
A friend of mine has a boxer and it has never had a problem with seizures, so its definately NOT natural for one to do that.
I'd get it to the vet, be clear to the vet about what you are looking for. If the procedure or medication won't work tell them straight out that you want an honest answer. ask them what THEY would do for their dog if it was in that situation.
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I just read your last post and omg.. get to a new vet! Any responsible vet would have been 100% sure about a condition, before administering medication. Medication alters chemicals, and such into their system to balance out things. if the medication is wrong, it could unstabilize your dogs system..
A friend of mine has a boxer and it has never had a problem with seizures, so its definately NOT natural for one to do that.
I'd get it to the vet, be clear to the vet about what you are looking for. If the procedure or medication won't work tell them straight out that you want an honest answer. ask them what THEY would do for their dog if it was in that situation.
Edited to say;
I just read your last post and omg.. get to a new vet! Any responsible vet would have been 100% sure about a condition, before administering medication. Medication alters chemicals, and such into their system to balance out things. if the medication is wrong, it could unstabilize your dogs system..
Is it like the head bobbles? Just out of curiousity does your vet know her history well or did he ask you questions and detail description, had he heard of it before? Like what flea medication do you use, are there any new dogs she's been exposed to, any new changes in household or yard items, increase in drinking, etc. I can't believe he refused to do as you requested and just put her on seizure pills. If he's going to continue to do tests what you requested should be one of them, just to make you happy. I hope she has never has a full seizure and with the medication these "bobbles" are controlled. Sometimes seizures are less of a problem than the medications to control them, at that level of seizure activity. You might want to discuss the need for the medications with your vet again in a month.
i think im going to take Twilights advice and get a new vet. hes very french..no offense to any french people on here im half french myself...but in quebec its like even at the doctors. they are right. they know everything. without tests. without proof. my bfs moms friend went to get some tests done and they punctered his intestion. so u can see why im a little worried right now. I asked him twice if he was SURE she only needed a blood test in a month and i know what is now going to happen. he is going to say everything is fine and charge us a fourtune every month for pills and checkups. i am already looking into other vets. he asked us what we feed her and she started her fun female adventures yesterday morning and he says she is growing up and its a part of something blah blah blah he rambled on and i didnt really understand but the way he put it its normal to happen once in a while. i know a little girl with epilepsy and its not a fun thing to go through having to hold her hand while seizures hit her i dont want my puppy to have to be on meds forever though. if i makes her better yes but im just pissed he wouldnt do tests. sorry im rambling lol. should i go to another vet this week and ask his opinion and see if he will get a blood test done on her?
i dont want my puppy to have to be on meds forever though. if i makes her better yes but im just pissed he wouldnt do tests. sorry im rambling lol. should i go to another vet this week and ask his opinion and see if he will get a blood test done on her?
Deffinately get another oppinion, even if you just phone another vet and ask there advice
tell them everything the other vet did and they will probably say weather that is normal procedures, but i doubt it is, i think any good reliable vet will do all tests possible to make sure they know the exact condition and the exact medication the dog will need
I wouldnt go by a vet just 'guessing' her condition and handing her tablets without even taking blood tests to prove it!
Let us know how you get on, but that vet sounds like a complete idiot.
Good luck, hope shes felling better soon
tell them everything the other vet did and they will probably say weather that is normal procedures, but i doubt it is, i think any good reliable vet will do all tests possible to make sure they know the exact condition and the exact medication the dog will need
I wouldnt go by a vet just 'guessing' her condition and handing her tablets without even taking blood tests to prove it!
Let us know how you get on, but that vet sounds like a complete idiot.
Good luck, hope shes felling better soon
Yes keep us posted when you find out.
Also wanted to add in case some do not know,
When you first take your boxer to a vet (or to a new vet), for any kind of treatment have them write in red on the outside of the patient record "NO ACE". Be firm! If they refuse to do this then I would immediately remove my dog and find another vet. Acepromazine, is a tranquilizer that is often used as a preanesthetic agent. In the Boxer, it tends to cause a problem called first degree heart block, a potentially serious arrhythmia of the heart. It also causes a profound hypotension (severe lowering of the blood pressure) in many Boxers that are given the drug. This drug is the most commonly prescribed tranquilizer in veterinary medicine. It is also used orally and is prescribed for owners who want to tranquilize their dogs for air travel.
Sorry if i posted useless ramble that everyone already knew
Also wanted to add in case some do not know,
When you first take your boxer to a vet (or to a new vet), for any kind of treatment have them write in red on the outside of the patient record "NO ACE". Be firm! If they refuse to do this then I would immediately remove my dog and find another vet. Acepromazine, is a tranquilizer that is often used as a preanesthetic agent. In the Boxer, it tends to cause a problem called first degree heart block, a potentially serious arrhythmia of the heart. It also causes a profound hypotension (severe lowering of the blood pressure) in many Boxers that are given the drug. This drug is the most commonly prescribed tranquilizer in veterinary medicine. It is also used orally and is prescribed for owners who want to tranquilize their dogs for air travel.
Sorry if i posted useless ramble that everyone already knew
There are still people who dont know about ACP boxer*mom, i posted about it on here a while ago because my friend had been given it for her yorkie, once i realised what it was, i realised that not every boxer ewner will know about it
not sure were the thread is now probably lost somewere lol
Found it - http://www.chazhound.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6887
not sure were the thread is now probably lost somewere lol
Found it - http://www.chazhound.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6887
LOL! Must have came from the same site, http://www.flbr.org/AceWarning.htm I wasn't a member in June so I didn't know you had put it up. Good to keep spreading the word
thanks for an extra info! the only thing is im from quebec so what is that in french? I would never let them give my dog tranquilizers to begin with and I dont trust airplanes enough to put my dog on one my bf is going to be upset when i tell him we are going to another vet. he loves the dog but he doesnt think this is a very serious thing. I kind of agree with him but id like to know what is going on and if a blood test will do that. I mean if its something as simple as shes not eating right or something small...well i dont want her on meds that could hurt her even more!
my bf is going to be upset when i tell him we are going to another vet. he loves the dog but he doesnt think this is a very serious thing. I kind of agree with him but id like to know what is going on and if a blood test will do that. I mean if its something as simple as shes not eating right or something small...well i dont want her on meds that could hurt her even more!- Joined
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Besides not doing a blood test, I am shocked that he put your dog on phenobarbital for a "seizure" as mild as a facial twitch! I always thought that they pulled out those "big guns" for more severe seizures. We had a Lhasa Apso that had mild seizures (but more serious than your boxers) every couple of months and he was never on any meds. He lived to be 15. I'm not a Vet but I don't think your dog needs to be on that drug. Definately go see another Vet a.s.a.p.
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you know what... ive seen two dogs taken from a regular dogs diet put on raw from raw advantage and their seizures were cut down to one maybe two every other month.. and it is because there are no chemicals going in just what they are supposed to eat.. and nothing more or less... and phenobarbital is for some dog with severe seizures as devin said... not your dog... get a second opinion because that can cause more bad than good if it isnt needed sorry hun
Boxers should not Be fed A raw Diet
they are prone to stomach problems and feeding a raw diet can up the chances of stomach problems in boxers
There are lots of perfectly good foods out there, i dont know if they will help with the seizures, but if a change of food would help then i think its a good idea,
they are prone to stomach problems and feeding a raw diet can up the chances of stomach problems in boxers
There are lots of perfectly good foods out there, i dont know if they will help with the seizures, but if a change of food would help then i think its a good idea,