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FYI, if you put fresh batteries in an old citronella remote collar and nothing happens when you push buttons 1 and 2, it's still wise to point it away from yourself before pressing button 3. At least I won't have to worry about mosquitoes for the rest of the day...
 
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Playing with a dog is tiring.
I mean REALLY playing WITH a dog.

The newest lecture in my Fenzi class was about personal play. Which is something that I have a hard time engaging in with Cajun, unless she's already really amped up by something else. But today we decided to try some things at the park. No toys, no food. Just me and her. And she took to it really well!! I was puffing and beat pretty quickly lol apparently I'm not in shape enough to play with my dog :p It was fun though and she was clearly enjoying it too because she didn't blow me off to do something else. I'm sure the guy sitting in his car eating lunch thought I looked crazy though.
 
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Have you talked to the breeder about this?

I would be exploring a behaviorist and/or anxiety meds if you want to try to continue working on it. But if you what you need is a service dog and that's not gonna happen with him... well, there's also nothing wrong with deciding he's not the right fit for you.

I know he's still pretty young but I also feel like you've been having these troubles with him since day 1.
I haven't talked to the breeder recently. The thing is she described him to me as a perfectly normal puppy. A bit aloof with strangers but that's what I wanted. What I didn't expect was a puppy that's completely terrified. And he's not scared of everyone either but I haven't really noticed a pattern. It seems almost random who/what/when he is scared and when he isn't.

I don't know if the flight traumatized him? He did get worse after one incident of a child running up to him and trying to grab at him with one of those plastic pooper scoopers repeatedly even after I told him he shouldn't do that. Both of the trainers I'm working with are telling me that there is a chance that with enough work he could grow out of this without medication. Could the anxiety meds temporarily be used just to help him get past this?

I feel like, as frustrating as he is, I don't want to give up on him yet. I do see potential in him at home and places where he's comfortable
 

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Playing with a dog is tiring.
I mean REALLY playing WITH a dog.

The newest lecture in my Fenzi class was about personal play. Which is something that I have a hard time engaging in with Cajun, unless she's already really amped up by something else. But today we decided to try some things at the park. No toys, no food. Just me and her. And she took to it really well!! I was puffing and beat pretty quickly lol apparently I'm not in shape enough to play with my dog :p It was fun though and she was clearly enjoying it too because she didn't blow me off to do something else. I'm sure the guy sitting in his car eating lunch thought I looked crazy though.
I'm not taking this class but I LOVE her blog entries/ videos on personal play. There's one where her dog (Raiki?) is playing as a contest and it's awesome and adorable. You can really see their relationship.
 

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Yesterday night, Mimi got attacked by a GSD.

Today, she earned her first Obedience leg at our first trial ever.

This girl is something else.
 

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Liz is taking DHA as per her oncologist - after like two doses, she has diarrhea.

Rage busts out of her crate, eats TWO BOTTLES of DHA, and is fine - unless you count the smell of fish literally being emitted from her pores.
 
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Are your dog secretly my dogs? Gimmick would get the poops from DHA, and actually started gagging when he saw the bottle.

Gambit gobbles them like they're candy. Of course, this is the dog who ate a roadkill possum who had been baking on the road for 2 weeks in July and didn't so much as burp.

ETA: I really thought Rage was a boy!
 
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I haven't talked to the breeder recently. The thing is she described him to me as a perfectly normal puppy. A bit aloof with strangers but that's what I wanted. What I didn't expect was a puppy that's completely terrified. And he's not scared of everyone either but I haven't really noticed a pattern. It seems almost random who/what/when he is scared and when he isn't.

I don't know if the flight traumatized him? He did get worse after one incident of a child running up to him and trying to grab at him with one of those plastic pooper scoopers repeatedly even after I told him he shouldn't do that. Both of the trainers I'm working with are telling me that there is a chance that with enough work he could grow out of this without medication. Could the anxiety meds temporarily be used just to help him get past this?

I feel like, as frustrating as he is, I don't want to give up on him yet. I do see potential in him at home and places where he's comfortable
This is why I always channel my inner bitch when it comes to people trying to touch my dog. its not "now honey you shouldnt do that!" and more like "do it again and you will regret it!" Adult people arent much better, either -_-
 

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Are your dog secretly my dogs? Gimmick would get the poops from DHA, and actually started gagging when he saw the bottle.

Gambit gobbles them like they're candy. Of course, this is the dog who ate a roadkill possum who had been baking on the road for 2 weeks in July and didn't so much as burp.

ETA: I really thought Rage was a boy!
I don't know, would your dogs bust out of their crates (today) and eat my Valentine's Day gift as well as the wine glass my friend got me for my birthday? *sigh*

And yea, definitely a girl. Lol
 
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Yes to the busting out, no to eating the gifts. But only because Felony would have already done it. The wine glass would have been spirited away to one of the boxes in her kitty tree, to be used for whatever nefarious purposes she has plotted out.

I pulled out two tampons, a straw, several cat and dog toys, a spray bottle and my iPod the other day.
 

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I haven't talked to the breeder recently. The thing is she described him to me as a perfectly normal puppy. A bit aloof with strangers but that's what I wanted. What I didn't expect was a puppy that's completely terrified. And he's not scared of everyone either but I haven't really noticed a pattern. It seems almost random who/what/when he is scared and when he isn't.

I don't know if the flight traumatized him? He did get worse after one incident of a child running up to him and trying to grab at him with one of those plastic pooper scoopers repeatedly even after I told him he shouldn't do that. Both of the trainers I'm working with are telling me that there is a chance that with enough work he could grow out of this without medication. Could the anxiety meds temporarily be used just to help him get past this?

I feel like, as frustrating as he is, I don't want to give up on him yet. I do see potential in him at home and places where he's comfortable
Anxiety meds can help take the edge off enough that the dog is actually capable of learning and working through things. I put Juno on medication (fluoxetine/Prozac) a couple years ago when her anxiety started getting really bad. I wanted so badly to not have to go the medication route, I tried just using training and positive associations but you know what... none of that training was getting through to her. It wasn't until she was on the meds that I could finally see the training start to pay off.

She was afraid of strangers, especially men. She was afraid of going places. She was afraid of noises. If I stepped on a stick while we were on a walk, it was pretty typical for the sound of it snapping to send her flying to the end of her leash in a panic. The automatic doors at the pet store freaked her out (even though she had been exposed to them since she was a puppy and never had an issue, until suddenly they became an issue). Most of the time, if we were outside of the house, she was frantic and trying to escape. At the height of this, I was working at a pet store and would frequently take her there on my days off for some shopping... as soon as we'd walk through the doors she'd freeze and completely shut down. That store is like Disney World to her now, and my male coworker who she hated hated hated and wouldn't go near or even look at, she freaking LOVES him now.

Choosing to medicate her was by far one of the best things I've ever done. She was on the medication for 2 years, I just took her off it a couple months ago (she probably could've stopped it a long time ago, I just figured why fix it if it ain't broke). She's still unsure around men, but otherwise she is so much more comfortable and happy, taking her out in public is enjoyable for both of us now.

You of course don't have to use medication, but I feel like a lot of people treat it as an absolute LAST RESORT when there is really nothing wrong with using it. It can make the process much easier and less stressful for everyone involved.
 
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Anxiety meds can help take the edge off enough that the dog is actually capable of learning and working through things. I put Juno on medication (fluoxetine/Prozac) a couple years ago when her anxiety started getting really bad. I wanted so badly to not have to go the medication route, I tried just using training and positive associations but you know what... none of that training was getting through to her. It wasn't until she was on the meds that I could finally see the training start to pay off.

She was afraid of strangers, especially men. She was afraid of going places. She was afraid of noises. If I stepped on a stick while we were on a walk, it was pretty typical for the sound of it snapping to send her flying to the end of her leash in a panic. The automatic doors at the pet store freaked her out (even though she had been exposed to them since she was a puppy and never had an issue, until suddenly they became an issue). Most of the time, if we were outside of the house, she was frantic and trying to escape. At the height of this, I was working at a pet store and would frequently take her there on my days off for some shopping... as soon as we'd walk through the doors she'd freeze and completely shut down. That store is like Disney World to her now, and my male coworker who she hated hated hated and wouldn't go near or even look at, she freaking LOVES him now.

Choosing to medicate her was by far one of the best things I've ever done. She was on the medication for 2 years, I just took her off it a couple months ago (she probably could've stopped it a long time ago, I just figured why fix it if it ain't broke). She's still unsure around men, but otherwise she is so much more comfortable and happy, taking her out in public is enjoyable for both of us now.

You of course don't have to use medication, but I feel like a lot of people treat it as an absolute LAST RESORT when there is really nothing wrong with using it. It can make the process much easier and less stressful for everyone involved.
I have no issue using medication if it'll help him. I mean, I would prefer if he didn't need it at all but if it helps it helps. Do you mind if I pm you? I just want to know a little bit more about the process if I were to go that route and what your experience was with it, but I don't want to clutter up the thread.

Of course today he had an absolutely fantastic day for him. Focused on me most of the time we were inside Petco, went on a walk and he was almost perfectly fine until we were almost back home when there were some kids on the street, and he had a blast and was confident all through training class. He even went with the male instructor to do a demo.
 

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UGH! Leo is inexplicably and randomly going lame!

He was fine last night. This morning, he is either:
A) Gimping around the room without putting ANY weight on his back right leg
or
B) POUNCING on his toys and trying to get me to play, all the while moving pretty normally.

I don't understand!
I think I am going to wait at least 24-48 hours before deciding to take him in to the vet for it. I can't tell whether he is actually seriously injured, but then pushing through the pain when he wants to play OR not very injured, but being a baby when nothing interesting is happening. Either way, definitely not going to let him run around today.
 

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Abrams isn't feeling well. :/ Ugh. Crossing my fingers that it's nothing. If he isn't better by tomorrow or gets wkrse today we're off to the emergency vet. :(
 

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My husband is expecting his friend to arrive any minute now, so when there was a knock on the door he had Brisbane sit politely, and then released him as he opened the door... and it was a flower delivery guy. Briz gave him a couple of sniffs before my husband realized his mistake and got him back inside before Brisbane realized this was a strange man and therefore someone to bite.

Husband is now freaking out bout what could have happened. I'm just happy Brisbane took longer than normal to process who exactly was standing on the porch.
 

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UGH! Leo is inexplicably and randomly going lame!

He was fine last night. This morning, he is either:
A) Gimping around the room without putting ANY weight on his back right leg
or
B) POUNCING on his toys and trying to get me to play, all the while moving pretty normally.

I don't understand!
I think I am going to wait at least 24-48 hours before deciding to take him in to the vet for it. I can't tell whether he is actually seriously injured, but then pushing through the pain when he wants to play OR not very injured, but being a baby when nothing interesting is happening. Either way, definitely not going to let him run around today.
Welcome to my life the past few months. Vibes you get things figured out soon. :)
 

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