Baby & dog video...thoughts?

Jumping the gun a bit, aren't we?

My dogs are used to kids crawling on them, bopping them on the head, pulling their ears and tail, taking their toys away, chasing them around.... and they have never bit. Or showed any sort of inappropriate behavior.

It's a little bit of a stretch to assume that all dogs are going to react to kids in such a negative way. Most dogs live with children and everyone copes just fine. Sure, a baby might stress a dog out sometimes - who doesn't get stressed out by babies? - doesn't mean the dog is going to lash out over it.

The parents that filmed the video know their dog way better than we do.

I am involved in rescue, so yes I suppose I am a tad bit cynical.

Yes I do things to my dogs that they don't like but I am also not rude about it either. They totally trust me so me doing things to them or being present while they are being examined comforts them.

I think many here are involved in rescue and have seen it go very very wrong. There are MANY videos where I would've agreed with your statement...but again, where in THIS video do your draw that conclusion from?

My children have been raised with dogs, my dogs with children. They respect each other...its not rocket science. Children are not allowed to climb on, mess with, annoy, etc and the dogs know that if they need help, we will intervene. In this video the baby was very respectful of the dog. The dog was not being messed with nor was it cornered. How was this dog being tortured?

What I am trying to stress is that dogs shouldn't have to put up with man handling, I guess seeing so many videos where it does go wrong & the dog is being tortured & no one sees it. So I suppose it makes me kind of hyper sensitive to these kinds of videos.

The baby doesn't touch the dog in this video?

You're hypersensitive to most anything.

You also have said you locked a dog outside to make them deal with a thunderstorm, something they feared, your methods of protecting dogs from stress don't exactly jive with your concern about children stressing dogs.

In the end dogs are amazing creatures that are well equip with the ability to handle stress from time to time, especially with training. A baby in the room, a video camera, noise, and a clear escape route hardly seems like something I would scream dog abuse or "this dog will definitely bite" over.

Again, I agree with MANY videos being horrible. I too am hypersensitive to dogs showing stress around children, or in training, etc. That being said, in THIS video we are discussing, where was the line crossed?

I actually disagree with people who roughly handle their dogs to get them used to kids as often it backfires. I would never let a child purposely pull a dog, or sit on them, on and on. This video though wasnt showing that so???

Lock him? Lol our doors don't even have locks. Besides what good would bringin him in do? He would be in here by himself without the other dogs (since its day time & they wouldn't want to come in), which he likes. Also it wouldnt lessen the sound of the storm, the thunder sometimes shakes the entire house, which frightens him more then if he were outside. Also he will still take food, he doesn't shake, drool or vomit.

Also it is dove season, so we have shots popping off all over the area here & he is also uncomfortable with gunfire, should I bring him in every time I hear a shot?

My dogs stay outside during the day & come in at night or if no one is home. They are tough country dogs & i have a fenced yard, I dont have to worry about some of the things one has to worry about in the city, plus I am outside (when the weather allows it) over half the day WITH them anyway.

If a dog can be a "tough" country dog tolerant of the environmental pressures including gunfire why can you not fathom a dog can be a "tough" family dog tolerant of the environmental pressures including children?

I just don't believe they should have to, the "pressures" you speak of that my dogs deal with are not physical they are not being sat on, their tails aren't being pulled & they are not having toys/ food taken from them.

I am not saying they CAN'T learn how to live with children, I am saying that WAY too many people don't police the child, or protect their dog (I am referencing "general" dog owners mind you).

Yeah I don't see much wrong with this video. Pretty much how Upendi acts when she's 'talking' in situations I know she's not stressed in.

I didn't see anything in this video that would make me concerned. The baby was being quite respectful to the husky for that age. She didn't initiate any contact with the dog until the dog turned to her, and even then as soon as the dog turned back away she stopped. The dog had plenty of room to move away. And when the baby did crawl past the dog with out touching the dog, the dog didn't move.
I have seen worse videos out there.

That was cute.

I make Elsie throw that level of stress signaling regularly by verbally mocking her, and I'm an adult. Elsie licks her nose a lot when she's thinking; dogs have different levels of tolerance for stress. If Zobby were licking his nose like that, something would be very wrong. Elsie does that when I baby talk her, because she's not sure what I'm saying.

And a ton of people stick their dogs out in the yard all day and don't interact with them. Because that's how they treat their outdoor dogs,does that mean you shouldn't be allowed to leave yours out during the day?

My dogs live with a toddler. They are not sat upon, nor does he have any interest in their toys. (or Brooks' toys, I should say, since he's the only one who plays with things) Although I would hardly consider the latter torture. Occasionally they have mutual play with toys outside, but that seems to be their agreement They're supervised and if they choose to have away from kid time, they always have that option.
Goose, especially, adores him to bits, and she's the first one he greets when he gets up. She chooses to be within a few feet of him most of the day and he'll often whistle or call for her if he wants to pet her or give her a tidbit. They also create their own little games. Hardly tortured beings.

I will also note that some dogs adore children. My late Basset never lived with a child younger than a teenager (with her former owner) yet she always just about turned herself inside out with joy when she saw a child.

The sad thing is that many of the general average dog owner don't put that much effort into creating a safe & enriching environment for all.

I am just afraid that this video will encourage the wrong kind of behavior

Sounds like I'm lucky that I've managed to keep my child alive!

As are the zillions of dogs and kids who coexist.

Go figure.

Bubble wrap for all.

The way it's being made out I'm lucky to have survived childhood. Lol We have had dogs since before I was born, most of the time more than one and my family isn't exactly dog savvy.

Yet somehow I survived childhood without ever being bitten (although I did have my eyelid torn by an over exuberant adolescent lab jumping up, but that was a height issue not a kid/dog issue). Who knew dogs were adaptable.

How???

How will this video encourage that??