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I think sometimes that if people had to be there when the dog they drop off at the shelter was ethuanized there'd be less pet overpopulation.
I think all that would result in is more people just dumping their pet in the country. =/
 

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I use to date a guy who came from a family in Wisconsin with a similar mentality. When he was a kid, they had a yellow lab puppy that they simply were to lazy to properly train. And thus the dog grew up and began jumping on the kids. As a result, his father got angry at the dog, took it outside, tied it to a tree and shot it.

I eventually broke up with this guy after a confession he made about how he snapped his ferret's neck when it bit him. It was easy to see where he got his morals and lack of respect for life from.
 
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I agree that the act of shooting the dog himself is no worse than dumping them at a shelter (possibly better depending on the situation).

However, I will not excuse the situation of being irresponsible in the first place, of treating a dog like property, etc just because its "lifestyle" or his dog.
 

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I grew up around this "shoot the dog if it isn't working out" mentality. Sure, it's faster if it's done right, but that doesn't mean I agree with it. I've seen people shoot their dogs because they simply didn't want them anymore. No other reason than laziness. I've seen dogs shot because they were going to be PTS anyway, and okay, fine, do that if it's what you need to do. But I have a hard time finding justification in shooting dead an animal because you no longer want the responsibility.

Growing up, my ACD was shot because it was sniffing around a chicken pen. Not herding or killing, literally just looking into it. He wasn't even standing up.

My step grandfather shot a setter in the head once, because she was too hard to find in the field and he was tired of looking for her. No joke. I've always thought that was a bullsh*t reason, just based on the type of man he was. But where I lived, that was the mentality. You don't want it? Kill it.

Maybe I'm too driven by sentiment to understand this philosophy, though. But yes, this story in the OP does **** me off.
 

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But I have a hard time finding justification in shooting dead an animal because you no longer want the responsibility.
Seriously. All that proves is your lack of respect for life and other living beings. Atleast at a shelter the animal has a chance.
 

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I use to date a guy who came from a family in Wisconsin with a similar mentality. When he was a kid, they had a yellow lab puppy that they simply were to lazy to properly train. And thus the dog grew up and began jumping on the kids. As a result, his father got angry at the dog, took it outside, tied it to a tree and shot it.

I eventually broke up with this guy after a confession he made about how he snapped his ferret's neck when it bit him. It was easy to see where he got his morals and lack of respect for life from.
I'm so glad you broke up with him. It sounds like his whole family was freakin' sick! Disgusting!:(:mad:
 

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I'm so glad you broke up with him. It sounds like his whole family was freakin' sick! Disgusting!:(:mad:
Yeah, we didn't last long. There were other reasons that were pushing me in the direction of breaking up with him, but the ferret confession was the final straw.
I'm married now to someone who'd give his left arm for an animal.
 

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Awww...I'm so glad. Your hubby sounds like a sensitive, kind person. Wonderful.

Yeah, that ferret confession would have me seriously wondering when this guy might turn into a serial killer.
 

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I'm going to also echo what Charliedog said. We used to live way out in the country up on a mountain. We weren't close by to any vet for miles. A neighbor down the road decided to poison one of our dogs with antifreeze covered meat and my step-dad put the dog out of her misery so she wouldn't suffer. Our situation was different than the OP story, but while based on the story I don't agree with what he did... We also don't know the man or his dog or the entire situation so therefore I'll refrain from judging the man for the decision he made since I don't know the whole story.
 

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I'm a little less bothered by stuff like this possibly because I come from a horse background with a lot of experience in rescues and low end auctions. I would so much rather someone kill a horse with one clean shot than put an unsound, unpredictable or mentally fried horse for free on kijiji or run it through the local sale. The chances are so much higher that these types of horses will end up in the wrong hands or end up being shipped to Canada or Mexico on a double decker - far worse fates than a bullet, imho.

Obviously the situation here is much different than a situation with a horse but that's just my thinking on situations like this. It is very, very sad that he chose to deal with a puppy this way, especially if it was just being a rowdy cattle dog puppy (I've had one myself lol) but in the end I do believe there are worse things than a well placed bullet. It's really unfortunate that he chose not to work with the dog or find it an appropriate home though.
 

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I'm going to also echo what Charliedog said. We used to live way out in the country up on a mountain. We weren't close by to any vet for miles. A neighbor down the road decided to poison one of our dogs with antifreeze covered meat and my step-dad put the dog out of her misery so she wouldn't suffer. Our situation was different than the OP story, but while based on the story I don't agree with what he did... We also don't know the man or his dog or the entire situation so therefore I'll refrain from judging the man for the decision he made since I don't know the whole story.
Your situation is completely different. Of course, the best course of action was to put the poor thing out of his misery stat. Taking a puppy out and shooting it dead because it's an inconvenience or misbehaved because the owner couldn't be bothered with taking some time to work with it is a totally different story.
 

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Your situation is completely different. Of course, the best course of action was to put the poor thing out of his misery stat. Taking a puppy out and shooting it dead because it's an inconvenience or misbehaved because the owner couldn't be bothered with taking some time to work with it is a totally different story.
Yes I understand where you are coming from. Thing is we aren't there to know the full story behind why this guy decided to shoot his dog. The OP heard about it from someone else who may have witnessed it or may have just heard about it from either the uncle himself or another family member. Stories change as they get repeated (think the telephone game). So without hearing the story from the man himself, it's hard for me to pass judgement when I don't know the dog or the man in question. How do we know for sure that he didn't try to work on it with his dog? We don't. There could be a lot more underlying reasons why he made the decision to shoot the dog that we don't know about it. I'm not trying to defend him or what he did and if the reason is truly because he just didn't care to bother then yes I do think it was a bit of an asshole-ish move... But again, I don't feel it's my call to pass judgement based on a story that may or may not be the full facts.
 
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I'm not saying I agree with what he did, but a clean shot is going to cause FAR FAR less stress on the dog that being dropped off at a probably overcrowded rural shelter.

We preach that people need to be responsible for their pets, and yet when someone makes the decision that they can't handle the dog, and decides NOT to pass the buck off on someone else, but to deal with it the way that it was dealt with for generations, they catch hell for it.
And I'M REALLY SICK of the "down south" comments.
Couldn't have said it better myself.

I think sometimes that if people had to be there when the dog they drop off at the shelter was ethuanized there'd be less pet overpopulation.
I'd like to think that, but most people are cowards anyway. We'd probably just see more stray dogs running the street for everyone else to take care of either by taking them in or bringing to shelters, or shoveling them up off the roads when they get hit.
 
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This whole mentality is just completely new to me...never heard of this being done...being ok...being an option!!Is it legal? :S
I can see how in some situation's it is totally understandable,and will be the only option.I just don't think what happened here(if that is the whole story) that it was right.
Also I'm not even comfortable around gun's to start with so that even freak's me out.How could you look at a dog and kill it!I think I would struggle with that regardless....
 

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Is shooting your own dog legal? Is shooting a stray dog legal? Under which circumstances and happenstances is it legal?

It varies so much by where you live, how many dogs you have, do you have livestock, etc, etc. It's best to know your laws and practice the 3S's as required.
 
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Taking a puppy out and shooting it dead because it's an inconvenience or misbehaved because the owner couldn't be bothered with taking some time to work with it is a totally different story.
No, just drop it off at a shelter and let someone else do your dirty work. Dogs and puppies don't get adopted that often, not around here. Taking it to a shelter is like passing the buck. Just let someone else eventually put this dog to sleep. Or heck, just drive it down some old dirt road and pass the buck to nature. Let the dog starve, or get eaten by predators. That's a much nicer way to die.
 

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I think its a bit different if you shoot a dog out of laziness. The OP stated puppies go quickly. Why kill a dog because YOU are lazy when someone else will want it.

I do agree that a dog that has little chance to be adopted might be better of with a swift bullet. But that doesn't sound like the case here. What if this dog would have grown up to be someone's heart dog...

It's not just the south. Most rural areas of the country are like this.

Heck, most shelters in this country are like this. "Dog seems DA, it'll never find a home anyway, let's euthanize it."
Not even just the US. Two stories of my neighbours killing dogs (one shot a pony that I would have given them money for.. but they were angry to the point of not caring.. guess which one)

One farm had sheep and lots of mareemas. One kept wandering over to a neighbouring farm. Not bothering anything, just thought its territory was bigger than it was. The farmer who didn't own the dog didn't want it on their property. So the owners came over and shot the dog. This dog was NOT socialized to people and I agree it was better than a life tied up.

The other farm had a lovely dog. He was great with people, kids and had excellent manners. We don't have a huge over pop problem. He was young healthy super friendly and handsome. He killed a chicken so they shot him. And then they got another dog...

If you guessed it was farm family B that shot the pony you are correct.
 

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