The Venting Thread

[Dogdragoness]

None of the kids who bullied me had problems at home, their parents were wealthy and well off and they had very privileged lives, had the best **** and drove a bad ass car to school, went on expensive family vacations etc ... So no not every kid who bullies is from a bad or broken home ... Some kids are just assholes

 

[Oko]

None of the kids who bullied me had problems at home, their parents were wealthy and well off and they had very privileged lives, had the best **** and drove a bad ass car to school, went on expensive family vacations etc ... So no not every kid who bullies is from a bad or broken home ... Some kids are just assholes

Uhh, being wealthy doesn't mean their home lives are good. For all you know, their parents never pay any attention to them.

 

[Greenmagick]

None of the kids who bullied me had problems at home, their parents were wealthy and well off and they had very privileged lives, had the best **** and drove a bad ass car to school, went on expensive family vacations etc ... So no not every kid who bullies is from a bad or broken home ... Some kids are just assholes

Sorry, that says nothing about their home life....unless you lived with them you have no idea. What the hell does going on vacations and driving bad ass cars have to do with broken homes or bad families?

And yes, not EVERY bully is bullied themselves, but its a very common theme. Regardless, you dont teach to not bully by bullying.

 

[sparks19]

And you know, I feel bad that some kids have a crappy home life but it's no excuse to let them continue to hurt others. Not that that's what anyone here is saying but that's essentially what my friend is dealing with with the school. She has a meeting with the school and police tomorrow but she feels hopeless. She feels like the school doesn't have her back or support her and is just going to brush it off as "well it sucks but bully child has a bad home". I get it BUT that doesn't mean that innocent kids should suffer.

It's not like it was a little scuffle. He was badly beaten. It's HORRIBLE. The swelling, the bruising. It just makes me SICK. Tonight during Hannahs bedtime prayer, we prayed for him and we also prayed for the kids that did this... That their hearts would be changed and they would stop hurting innocent people. We have to forgive them and i feel a lot of anger in my heart and it's
Going to take time to get past the anger but we have to forgive BUT I hope this is taken seriously and the repeat offender/ring leader suffers some consequences. The worst thing we can do for kids like this is continue to excuse their behavior with no consequences because they have crappy parents. They need help and real life consequences.

My heart is just hurting so bad for my friend tonight

 

[Fran101]

None of the kids who bullied me had problems at home, their parents were wealthy and well off and they had very privileged lives, had the best **** and drove a bad ass car to school, went on expensive family vacations etc ... So no not every kid who bullies is from a bad or broken home ... Some kids are just assholes

Having a family with money does not by any means mean they have a happy home life. Having rich parents or having parents who spoil doesn't mean those same parents aren't abusive. There is no income bracket where abuse or homes with violence starts/ends.
You don't know what their lives were like unless you lived with them.
and as I said, not all bullies come from unhealthy homes, but I believe it's something that should be looked into.

"well those kids are assholes" doesn't solve anything. Throwing them in detention or out of sight usually doesn't solve anything either (which is why so many kids hesitate to tell about bullies, as if detention after-school is going to do anything but make them angrier) AND HITTING THEM **** well doesn't solve anything except to teach them that hitting is a great way to vent their anger or get things done (I mean, it's what adults do right?)

I believe there is always a root/reason to why bullies bully, and the only way to stop it is to teach them better, teach them to channel that anger or whatever in other ways and find out what the reason is behind that and of course, in the mean time, keep them from actively using that outlet/hurting others.

Even if that reason for bullying is "just because I can" or testing their limits or power trips or stupid schoolyard politics or hormones.. it's a reason. And kids are smarter than we give them credit for and perhaps with a bit of time, management and teaching them empathy and understanding and consequences.. they would stop.

I don't work with kids.. but just by knowing kids and from what I can remember of being a kid who had to deal with bullies..that's my 2 cents.

 

[Fran101]

And you know, I feel bad that some kids have a crappy home life but it's no excuse to let them continue to hurt others. Not that that's what anyone here is saying but that's essentially what my friend is dealing with with the school. She has a meeting with the school and police tomorrow but she feels hopeless. She feels like the school doesn't have her back or support her and is just going to brush it off as "well it sucks but bully child has a bad home". I get it BUT that doesn't mean that innocent kids should suffer.

It's not like it was a little scuffle. He was badly beaten. It's HORRIBLE. The swelling, the bruising. It just makes me SICK. Tonight during Hannahs bedtime prayer, we prayed for him and we also prayed for the kids that did this... That their hearts would be changed and they would stop hurting innocent people. We have to forgive them and i feel a lot of anger in my heart and it's
Going to take time to get past the anger but we have to forgive BUT I hope this is taken seriously and the repeat offender/ring leader suffers some consequences. The worst thing we can do for kids like this is continue to excuse their behavior with no consequences because they have crappy parents. They need help and real life consequences.

My heart is just hurting so bad for my friend tonight

More-so than therapy, more-so than looking into their homes... first and foremost bullies should NOT be given another chance to hurt a child.
No kid should ever have to go to school and not feel safe.
and every chance they get to let that anger out unto someone innocent is another chance for that behavior to be reinforced.

Those kids need consequences and more so they need to be managed. There shouldn't even be an opportunity for them to be alone with other kids long enough to hurt someone else.

Such an awful situation I hope he heals quickly.
Where did this even happen? The school should CERTAINLY be owning up to this happening on their grounds... wasn't there supervision??

For a school to let that happen and then try to brush off the mother of a very hurt child makes my blood boil. They should be on their hands and knees begging for any parent to trust their school ever again!

 

[sparks19]

More-so than therapy, more-so than looking into their homes... first and foremost bullies should NOT be given another chance to hurt a child.
No kid should ever have to go to school and not feel safe.
and every chance they get to let that anger out unto someone innocent is another chance for that behavior to be reinforced.

Those kids need consequences and more so they need to be managed. There shouldn't even be an opportunity for them to be alone with other kids long enough to hurt someone else.

Such an awful situation I hope he heals quickly.
Where did this even happen? The school should CERTAINLY be owning up to this happening on their grounds... wasn't there supervision??

For a school to let that happen and then try to brush off the mother of a very hurt child makes my blood boil. They should be on their hands and knees begging for any parent to trust their school ever again!

I don't know all the specifics yet my friend doesn't know
ALl the specifics yet. It happened at the school, she got a call that he was en route to hospital in an ambulance and she headed right to the hospital. While at the hospital she talked to the school "liason" and got a few details but not much real info. they set a meetig for tomorrow because at that time she just needed to be with her son the only reason they know the kid is a repeat offender and the school didn't do much is because a close friends son suffered the same abuse

It just makes it worse that my friends son D suffers from seizures. He gets severe headaches and ends up seizing. So trauma to the head seems extra scary even if it wouldn't likely trigger an episode

 

[Greenmagick]

I don't know all the specifics yet my friend doesn't know
ALl the specifics yet. It happened at the school, she got a call that he was en route to hospital in an ambulance and she headed right to the hospital. While at the hospital she talked to the school "liason" and got a few details but not much real info. they set a meetig for tomorrow because at that time she just needed to be with her son the only reason they know the kid is a repeat offender and the school didn't do much is because a close friends son suffered the same abuse

(((Sparks)))

Just so very awful.

 

[stardogs]

If the school tries to brush this off (which I can't even wrap my mind around, though I know it happens), I think this would def be something the media should be brought in on, honestly. Horrific stuff.

 

[sparks19]

If the school tries to brush this off (which I can't even wrap my mind around, though I know it happens), I think this would def be something the media should be brought in on, honestly. Horrific stuff.

That option is already being discussed based on how the meeting tomorrow goes. If they continue to deflect and brush it off as "well he is havig a
Tough time" then it is going to escalate dramatically. My friend will
Personally file charges and going to the media has been mentioned and we are all with her.

Yeah that kid is having a tough time... He also inflicted his tough time on another kid and now that innocent kid is having a tough time that he does NOT deserve.

 

[sassafras]

If the school tries to brush this off (which I can't even wrap my mind around, though I know it happens), I think this would def be something the media should be brought in on, honestly. Horrific stuff.

+1. This is just awful, and while I think the bullies need help the rest of the kids at the school need and deserve a safe environment as well.

 

[Greenmagick]

Exactly, having sympathy and compassion for the bully's background (when warranted) is not the same as giving them a free pass and allowing them to inflict their pain on others

 

[MisssAshby]

So, first Fedex delivers a package I shipped to the wrong address. Today they misplace a box with a $200 item in it. So not happy.

 

[Dogdragoness]

Having a family with money does not by any means mean they have a happy home life. Having rich parents or having parents who spoil doesn't mean those same parents aren't abusive. There is no income bracket where abuse or homes with violence starts/ends.
You don't know what their lives were like unless you lived with them.
and as I said, not all bullies come from unhealthy homes, but I believe it's something that should be looked into.

"well those kids are assholes" doesn't solve anything. Throwing them in detention or out of sight usually doesn't solve anything either (which is why so many kids hesitate to tell about bullies, as if detention after-school is going to do anything but make them angrier) AND HITTING THEM **** well doesn't solve anything except to teach them that hitting is a great way to vent their anger or get things done (I mean, it's what adults do right?)

I believe there is always a root/reason to why bullies bully, and the only way to stop it is to teach them better, teach them to channel that anger or whatever in other ways and find out what the reason is behind that and of course, in the mean time, keep them from actively using that outlet/hurting others.

Even if that reason for bullying is "just because I can" or testing their limits or power trips or stupid schoolyard politics or hormones.. it's a reason. And kids are smarter than we give them credit for and perhaps with a bit of time, management and teaching them empathy and understanding and consequences.. they would stop.

I don't work with kids.. but just by knowing kids and from what I can remember of being a kid who had to deal with bullies..that's my 2 cents.

I am not on the "lets not hit precious little darlings" bandwagon I guess it's because I was raised that if you did something bad that warranted it ... It's not like my parents were barbarians who beat the crap out of me daily but being rude or talking back (to anyone)= soap in the mouth and if I had treated another kid like this without good reason (like if they were hurting me and I fought back) yeah ... I would have had my hide tanned.

And while I don't know If this is the case with these kids ... But yes some kids are just mean spirited assholes by nature. It's sad but true. But I think we can all agree that no kid should have to go through this, I mean we aren't talking pushing or giving a kid a swirly or pegging him with spitballs (All aren't any better ... By the way) we are talking about a kid who WENT TO THE ER ... That shows another level of vindictiveness IMHO.

 

[sillysally]

As far as I'm concerned when a kid has sent another child to the ER it is time to remove that child from the school and put him in an alternative environment where he can be more closely managed. Frankly, your average public school does not have the resources to both provide therapy and individually manage the behavior of violent students. These students need to be removed for the safety of others. I'm sorry the kids home life sucks, but you know what? LOTS of kids have sucky home lives and don't do serious physical damage to other kids.

 

[Lyzelle]

I'm not sure if I should be okay with the fact that whatever I have is cycling through pretty . quickly or annoyed that I am now dealing with an itchy throat and feel like I am drowning because it has all settled in my lungs again.

So I am sitting in Urgent Care just waiting. At least I can get this UTI taken care of I guess

 

[JoLeigh]

So I "officially" have POTS and HEDS with crossovers...so there's that

 

[skittledoo]

I'm so beyond irritated with work it's not even funny. What's even more irritating is that I'm not allowed to even vent about it on here. Ugh.

 

[Zoom]

So I "officially" have POTS and HEDS with crossovers...so there's that

I think I'm delirious, because all this sentence means to me is "SUBARU CUSTOMER".

Speaking of, my fever came back and I feel like I'm drunk (dizzy, lightheaded) without the fun of getting there. I have a ton of appointments set for this weekend and I don't know if I can actually take them.

 

[LostAndConfused]

113 hours at work over the past two weeks....Can this year be done? Can someone get me a new job?