stuff is happening FAST.... :P Tentative Litter announcement

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Pending final approval by the stud owner and me getting the arrangements all finalized, Cailin Collies will be expecting our first litter in January 2009. :)

(Yes, Rittie came into season before I could pick her up from her breeder.) :p So I am picking her up and, it looks like, taking her directly to ANOTHER collie person, who currently is housing and managing a breeding to the dog I want to breed her to, CH Con-Te Divine's Simply The Best.) I promise there will be pictures of her tomorrow, though.

WHEN I ASKED Y'ALL TO GIVE THE "COME INTO SEASON" VIBES, I THINK YOU WENT A LITTLE OVERBOARD. :p On the plus side, she should only be about 6 weeks along for our specialty, so I think she'll still go to that. We'll see how big she looks. :p



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Hmm I missed you having a breeding bitch somehow LOL. Congrats. Out of the loop I am LOL.

I would not bring her anyplace at that time in pregnancy personally...she picks up an infection or squats in the wrong place you could have some issues...esp if she's a first time Mom...no reason to risk picking up Herpes if she doesn't already have it. that's just me tho...;)
 
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HBH - I haven't posted anywhere as well... it wasn't fina ltill last week and then I was waiting for photos when I picked her up. :p She's 4, she's a litter-sister to Mal and Kaylee's dam and she's AWESOME- her breeder is a judge and is cutting back on her breeding dogs since she's spending so much time away from home judging at this point. :)

I don't know about the show- I probably shouldn't, but it's Nolan River, and it's my favorite show of the year, the judges rae perfect for her, and well... oh well. Will talk to vet.
 

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Really don't understand . Are you buying a female in heat and are planning to breed pronto ?? Why ??
 

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PSSST! The link is wrong in your sig, "comp"

Do I get a free puppy for telling you that? :p
 
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CONGRATS HOW EXCITING!!! Good luck!

I would not take her out if she is in whelp either. TOOO much "stuff" at dog events.

I stayed home from April knowing I was going to breed Penny on her next season. I did not go to another dog event for almost a year! Just tooo busy.

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Congrats! I'm expecting babies in January too, so we should be able to flood the board with Collie pics! lol

And I have to say "ditto" on not taking her to the show - it's just not worth the chance in my book. I actually don't trial/show ANYONE once I have a pregnant bitch, but I'm a little paranoid!
 
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(I'm having inadequacy issues about Rittie not being pointed yet (Especially when I look at your site, Colliewog :p Someday I will have so many multi-talented dogs.) :p But darnit, she sat at home for a year maturing, then Alice got her judging license and Rittie hasn't been out since then. I was hoping to have 2-3 months to show her before she came in. And the specialty judges were perfect for her. Shall make myself feel better by getting hre CGC and TDI stuff done, I guess.)

Bubbatd - because she's already 4. I've been looking for a really nice girl to start with for a while, I adore this girl's lines, I own her niece and nephew and couldn't be any prouder of those two litters than if I'd bred them myself- and she's NICER than Mal and Kaylee's mom- better rear, better head, more drive. If she was 3, I'd skip this season and wait, but at 4? She can have a performance and show career after this litter.
 
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Oh, and here - photo of Daddy



He's sired by Sele, who is also Malcolm's sire. (The Delilah x Sele litter produced 4 really nice pups). His dam, Harley, is one of the smooths who really typifies everything I like about smooth collies- she's elegant without being weedy, she's smart, sound temperament, beautiful mover- the whole package. I wish she had performance titles, but unfortunately, her owners aren't into that and she's been specialed for quite a while. (She still loves to show, and she's TEN.)

(Also, Colliewog? Mind if I pick your brain via PM? I'm looking for input on a couple normal-eyed dogs for the next generation, as I'd REALLY like to move away from CEA as quickly as possible.)
 
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Congrats!!!!!!

Does this mean we get adorable collie puppy pics??? :D

She is gorgeous by the way. What an impressive coat.
 
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so do tell us the genetic possibilities...hair and color...inquiring minds!!
She's a rough-factored (and white factored) smooth, he's tri-factored sable rough, so we'll get sables and tris in both coats. He's not white-factored, so while we might get some white factored pups, no whites.

I'm really excited about the personalities, too. Rittie's a tough-minded girl- she's creative, she's responsive and interested in people but not clingy, and she's FUN- she should be GREAT in performance. (She's everything I like about her niece Pebbles, who is another Sele kid, in a smooth-coated package). Just need to get this whole mother-hood thing over with. :p Mac is a sweet mushy boy (all the Sele kids I've met are- and I like Sele himself quite a lot too.)

If all goes well, I want to breed her once more (to a normal-eyed, preferably non-carrier dog- really, really, really want a normal-eyed bitch for my next generation, frankly), and I have a few ideas with that, but not sure yet. This'll keep me busy for a while yet.

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(ETA - It should go without saying that Rittie is interested in people, but frankly, a lot of collies are kind of aloof with strangers, and a lot of dogs who have done conformation but nothing else tend to interact with strangers in that framework "Ah, a stranger admiring me, let me stack myself and look beautiful, and treats will fall from the sky."... Rittie was willing to play the 'touch my hand, get a treat' target game (including following my hand over stuff, onto a box, over a makeshift jump, etc) within about 2 minutes of meeting me. :p)
 

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[Dumb question about collies]

If you breed a rough with a smooth, does that mean you get some smooths and some roughs, or do they generally have in-between coats? I was always under the impression that they're essentially two seperate breeds, is that not the case?
 

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I can't wait to see pics! ME LOVES COLLIES! I can't wait till have I own my own home... preferably a farm where I can have lots of collies! LOL. :p
 

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[Dumb question about collies]

If you breed a rough with a smooth, does that mean you get some smooths and some roughs, or do they generally have in-between coats? I was always under the impression that they're essentially two seperate breeds, is that not the case?
You will get roughs and smooths - no 'tweeners'. What freaks people out is that you can breed two smooths together and get roughs if the smooths are rough factored, even though smooth is a dominant gene. But a rough from these two smooths cannot produce smooths, only roughs. Gotta love genetics!

In the US, they are varieties of the same breed. In Europe and some other countries, they are considered separate breeds, but that separation was originally done for show purposes (number of challenge certificates that could be awarded or something to that effect).
 

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You will get roughs and smooths - no 'tweeners'. What freaks people out is that you can breed two smooths together and get roughs if the smooths are rough factored, even though smooth is a dominant gene. But a rough from these two smooths cannot produce smooths, only roughs. Gotta love genetics!

In the US, they are varieties of the same breed. In Europe and some other countries, they are considered separate breeds, but that separation was originally done for show purposes (number of challenge certificates that could be awarded or something to that effect).
How interesting! Thanks!
 

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