So Pissed...
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I would have snapped and beat his A##! I am not a violent man but if someone strikes my dog it would be an automatic thing for me to do.
Sounds like this guy was feeling embarassed because his puppy was submitting to an adult dog...what an idiot. It really burns me when people attach their own self-esteem to the actions of their dog.
Sounds like this guy was feeling embarassed because his puppy was submitting to an adult dog...what an idiot. It really burns me when people attach their own self-esteem to the actions of their dog.
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BigDog, you should first be proud that your dog has such a solid temperament. To get kicked and to shake it off and act normal afterwards is a great tribute to the German shepherd breed.
Getting angry at the guy is inevitable, but it doesn't help the situation. You did the right thing in not escalating it. When something like this happens to one of our dogs, we don't then want to make our dogs think it's something to be upset about - and that's exactly what we do when we start yelling and cussing and getting all worked up. That guy evidently had a problem and I feel sorry for his puppy more than anything. If he's willing to kick your dog, imagine what that pup is probably going through on a daily basis.
If I were you, I'd contact the trainer before your next class and talk to him. Find out what exactly is being done about the situation. It makes no sense to go back into a class that is set up for off-leash socialization if there's a person in the class who won't allow dogs to socialize with his dog. The pup did the right thing - submitting to the adult dog - and the owner doesn't seem to have a clue. If your dog was really pestering the puppy and the pup couldn't play because of it, then it's your responsibility to move your dog to another area. But regardless, unless there was an attack going on, kicking your dog was absolutely wrong.
I'm kind of surprised that they have adults and puppies in the same socialization group. Not all adult dogs are good with pups and not all pups submit well to adults (I have one of those). It seems that the class is almost asking for problems especially if they haven't carefully assessed the dominance/submission level of every dog.
Even in our puppy classes here, we have separate areas for the more dominant pushy dogs and the more submissive dogs so that no one gets overwhelmed.
Good luck, and I'm really glad to hear that your shepherd is such a nice ambassador for the breed!
Melanie and the gang in Alaska
Getting angry at the guy is inevitable, but it doesn't help the situation. You did the right thing in not escalating it. When something like this happens to one of our dogs, we don't then want to make our dogs think it's something to be upset about - and that's exactly what we do when we start yelling and cussing and getting all worked up. That guy evidently had a problem and I feel sorry for his puppy more than anything. If he's willing to kick your dog, imagine what that pup is probably going through on a daily basis.
If I were you, I'd contact the trainer before your next class and talk to him. Find out what exactly is being done about the situation. It makes no sense to go back into a class that is set up for off-leash socialization if there's a person in the class who won't allow dogs to socialize with his dog. The pup did the right thing - submitting to the adult dog - and the owner doesn't seem to have a clue. If your dog was really pestering the puppy and the pup couldn't play because of it, then it's your responsibility to move your dog to another area. But regardless, unless there was an attack going on, kicking your dog was absolutely wrong.
I'm kind of surprised that they have adults and puppies in the same socialization group. Not all adult dogs are good with pups and not all pups submit well to adults (I have one of those). It seems that the class is almost asking for problems especially if they haven't carefully assessed the dominance/submission level of every dog.
Even in our puppy classes here, we have separate areas for the more dominant pushy dogs and the more submissive dogs so that no one gets overwhelmed.
Good luck, and I'm really glad to hear that your shepherd is such a nice ambassador for the breed!
Melanie and the gang in Alaska
Grammy, that is very good advice. I would definitely call your trainer, and let him know how you feel and suggest this for positive reinforcement for Big....Don't let this deter you from training...
Rocky is doing wonderful I am so proud of him for taking such a kicking from this idiot, and I am proud of you also.(((Hugs for both of you)
But, if he tries it again...let me know! I'm not that far from Baton Rouge.
Rocky is doing wonderful I am so proud of him for taking such a kicking from this idiot, and I am proud of you also.(((Hugs for both of you)
But, if he tries it again...let me know! I'm not that far from Baton Rouge.
filarotten said:
Grammy, that is very good advice. I would definitely call your trainer, and let him know how you feel and suggest this for positive reinforcement for Big....Don't let this deter you from training...
Rocky is doing wonderful I am so proud of him for taking such a kicking from this idiot, and I am proud of you also.(((Hugs for both of you)
But, if he tries it again...let me know! I'm not that far from Baton Rouge.
Rocky is doing wonderful I am so proud of him for taking such a kicking from this idiot, and I am proud of you also.(((Hugs for both of you)
But, if he tries it again...let me know! I'm not that far from Baton Rouge.
Well, my dad went up to him like two or three times and he kept saying he'd take care of it, 'I know, I know', and that it won't happen again.
But I do want to call later on and ask if he'll be at the next class and what actions were taken. There's no point for that jerkoff to go to a socialization class if he can't handle socialization.
BigDog,
I think you handled yourself with poise and maturity.
It was totally unthinkable for the puppy owner to react in that way. This is a socialization class if I understand, and they were socializing. The way dogs do. No hard bites, no attacks etc. Just normal submissive puppy behaviour.
I would also make a call to the trainer before your next class, and see what steps were taken to prevent this person from repeating the behavior he showed. If nothing has been done simply say you will no longer be attending because of the incident. If you paid, ask for your money back.
I also believe the "trainer" should have taken steps at that time, but if something was done privately then, I would give the benefit of the doubt and continue classes. Only if no outcome, I would not continue to go.
I think you handled yourself with poise and maturity.
It was totally unthinkable for the puppy owner to react in that way. This is a socialization class if I understand, and they were socializing. The way dogs do. No hard bites, no attacks etc. Just normal submissive puppy behaviour.
I would also make a call to the trainer before your next class, and see what steps were taken to prevent this person from repeating the behavior he showed. If nothing has been done simply say you will no longer be attending because of the incident. If you paid, ask for your money back.
I also believe the "trainer" should have taken steps at that time, but if something was done privately then, I would give the benefit of the doubt and continue classes. Only if no outcome, I would not continue to go.
That's what I'm thinking. I don't really know if I want to go. I mean, wtf why should I put up with that jerkoff?
But on the other hand, I've made a lot of good friends there why should I let that jerk destroy all I've done?
I don't know yet. But if I see that there have been no results and if Rocky goes around the pup next time and the guy says 'I'm gonna handle it myself' I'll either react or I won't come back.
But on the other hand, I've made a lot of good friends there why should I let that jerk destroy all I've done?
I don't know yet. But if I see that there have been no results and if Rocky goes around the pup next time and the guy says 'I'm gonna handle it myself' I'll either react or I won't come back.