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I have two very alert Aussies. Ransom will let me know about anything and everything he thinks isn't ok. Shye will also.... most of the Border Collies I've known have been very protective of the house... lots of barking. Not much for biting. We did have one that nipped someone's heel once but he had it coming, taunting the dog. My mom's current BC bit once and only once and that was a guy who had broken in and was trying to beat and rape my mom. The bite was enough for her to get away. She owes that dog her life.
See about a lower key BC or Aussie. Then you can maybe get a merley monster!
My second recommendation is for a Boxer if they aren't banned. We had one when I was little. She was AMAZINGLY tolerant of anyone that was part of her family but NO ONE else was getting through that door.
See about a lower key BC or Aussie. Then you can maybe get a merley monster!
My second recommendation is for a Boxer if they aren't banned. We had one when I was little. She was AMAZINGLY tolerant of anyone that was part of her family but NO ONE else was getting through that door.
i was gonna say a standard doxie is a low to the ground but SOLID and for its height a veyr heavy and large dog. they have HUGE barks and tend to be extreemly tenecious dogs, many doxies will back up that bark too, they do have a high drive with small animals though.
a grey might also be a great idea...there large and rather intimidating dogs particularly the black ones, $300 is a little high for a rescue fee, but pre neutered, full health check, temperment tested and up to date on shots...
a grey might also be a great idea...there large and rather intimidating dogs particularly the black ones, $300 is a little high for a rescue fee, but pre neutered, full health check, temperment tested and up to date on shots...
Oh, I guess not everyone knows that I live with Justin (My bf/basically faincee) right now so any new dog would have us both as a family, not just me. I understand the problems that come with a guardian breed and how they could react poorly to new members of the family. My main concern would be reaction to a new baby which I hope to have within the next 10 years.
I think at this point I won't be able to get a guardian breed but I am very interesting in the sighthounds and Aussies. A manly voiced terrier wouldn't be out of the question either. I'm off the the office in a little while to get a breed list (banned ones) and see what I have to work with.
I think at this point I won't be able to get a guardian breed but I am very interesting in the sighthounds and Aussies. A manly voiced terrier wouldn't be out of the question either. I'm off the the office in a little while to get a breed list (banned ones) and see what I have to work with.
Make sure if you get a sight hound you get a vocal one. I also know of many individuals who will not utter a peep. Strider will not bark at people. Ever. The only time he got defensive with a person was when a drunken neighbor thought our apartment was theirs and tried to get in at 2 am. He stood in front of the door with his teeth bared, but he did not utter a peep. If they had gotten in there would have been a pants pooping surprise waiting. If I hadn't been sitting up with insomnia I would have never known someone was trying to get in the front door.
Most sighthounds are less territorial and more protective of family, but at the same time a lot of them are going to run and hide if someone yells at them or brandishes a stick (even if they've never been hit, they just know, lol).
Afghan hounds in general are much more of a guardian type than the racing greys, much more likely to alert, and much more likely to back it up if they need to. They have more of a sense of physical territory than other sight hound breeds as well. My uncle's old afghan didn't like the neighbor kids playing tag with us (he thought we were being chased in an aggressive way) so he knocked the girl down and sat on her until my uncle came out and told him it was okay. They are intelligent and seem to be able to develop good judgement as far as how much of a response is necessary for the situation.
Most sighthounds are less territorial and more protective of family, but at the same time a lot of them are going to run and hide if someone yells at them or brandishes a stick (even if they've never been hit, they just know, lol).
Afghan hounds in general are much more of a guardian type than the racing greys, much more likely to alert, and much more likely to back it up if they need to. They have more of a sense of physical territory than other sight hound breeds as well. My uncle's old afghan didn't like the neighbor kids playing tag with us (he thought we were being chased in an aggressive way) so he knocked the girl down and sat on her until my uncle came out and told him it was okay. They are intelligent and seem to be able to develop good judgement as far as how much of a response is necessary for the situation.
So there is no specific list printed out about what breeds we cannot own. The office basically calls the local vet and asks if the breed in question is aggressive and goes from there. So no Pitts, Rotts, Dobes, or GSD's thus far, I'm sure Akitas are out too if I'd asked.
I'm thinking Aussies or Sighthounds. Hoping to go look at a shelter this Saturday with Justin.
I'm thinking Aussies or Sighthounds. Hoping to go look at a shelter this Saturday with Justin.
if you can find a labXbull you'll have a real good chance of having a serious protector. labs & goldens rank in the top 3 on the bite list (where they should since they are in the top 3 for popularity). this sort of cross will have a low enough bite inhibition to engage a person (especially in a defensive situation) and the pain tolerance and heart of the bull. it doesn't really matter what kind of bull is in the cross but boxer, rott & "pit bull" will be most common.
this sort of cross makes excellent boardogs. most have no reverse and are hard dogs that catch & hold the pigs. the few that bay will take a lot of abuse from a hog and still stay in it's face. this kind of drive & grit translates well to protection applications. i wouldn't expect the same level of intensity & heart as you would get from a trained PP dog from a line bred for PP, but you should have plenty of opportunity to bring your piece or louisville slugger into play.
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a nice bonus is, you'll have the shelter ID of lab mix & the management probably won't even bother to call anyone.
this sort of cross makes excellent boardogs. most have no reverse and are hard dogs that catch & hold the pigs. the few that bay will take a lot of abuse from a hog and still stay in it's face. this kind of drive & grit translates well to protection applications. i wouldn't expect the same level of intensity & heart as you would get from a trained PP dog from a line bred for PP, but you should have plenty of opportunity to bring your piece or louisville slugger into play.
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a nice bonus is, you'll have the shelter ID of lab mix & the management probably won't even bother to call anyone.
I ranted with Chance. But he got us kicked out lol. Too many people were scared of him and he slipped his lead once and ran after a little girl. (I know he was trying to play but she did NOT.)
Its doable, but I didnt have the time. I was working 10 hour days, and not giving them enough exercise. Your situation could be entirely different. I just know Chance LOVES being let out of his crate and right into the backyard when I get home.
Its doable, but I didnt have the time. I was working 10 hour days, and not giving them enough exercise. Your situation could be entirely different. I just know Chance LOVES being let out of his crate and right into the backyard when I get home.
I would get a nice social, happy dog that isn't going to **** off your neighbors barking all the time. A dog you'll love as a pet and you can love and snuggle all you want. Then get a security alarm or at least some cheap security stickers to put on your windows to bluff your past any bad characters that might be coming your way.
I doubt you want the responsibility of owning a protection dog and I certainly wouldn't put my life in the hands of a dog not tested. Get a dog you'll love and if somebody is around that shouldn't be, they might bark they might not.
my dogs rarely bark, one the rare occasion somebody walks thru our yard at night, its low toned woofs, but if anybody's arm should come thru a window i'm sure they'll be in a hurry to get back out as soon as they can. When I'm not home they bark more, my neighbors tell me cause it suprises them that whenever i'm home and they come over they never make a noise, but if they come over and i'm not home even though they've played with my dogs they won't dream of opening the door because of the sounds coming from the other side.
Dogs that bark at lots movements that have little barks don't scare many people, and just annoy your neighbors, dogs that have big barks and are confident dont' bark that often, big dogs that have big barks that alert bark often really **** off your neighbors.
so, yeah, my opinion, just get a dog that has a good temperment and one you can live with and get an alarm system, or some "this house protected by smith and wesson" stickers.
I doubt you want the responsibility of owning a protection dog and I certainly wouldn't put my life in the hands of a dog not tested. Get a dog you'll love and if somebody is around that shouldn't be, they might bark they might not.
my dogs rarely bark, one the rare occasion somebody walks thru our yard at night, its low toned woofs, but if anybody's arm should come thru a window i'm sure they'll be in a hurry to get back out as soon as they can. When I'm not home they bark more, my neighbors tell me cause it suprises them that whenever i'm home and they come over they never make a noise, but if they come over and i'm not home even though they've played with my dogs they won't dream of opening the door because of the sounds coming from the other side.
Dogs that bark at lots movements that have little barks don't scare many people, and just annoy your neighbors, dogs that have big barks and are confident dont' bark that often, big dogs that have big barks that alert bark often really **** off your neighbors.
so, yeah, my opinion, just get a dog that has a good temperment and one you can live with and get an alarm system, or some "this house protected by smith and wesson" stickers.
Shibas are HARD dogs. They're used for boar hunting as well and have an extremely high prey drive, especially towards smaller animals. We used to have a member here who was involved in the Shiba world and she had a ton of great info. Do a search for "Tempura Tantrum" and you'll get quite a bit.
Really, any dog that barks (especially black ones) are going to be a huge deterrent. Virgo scared the poop out of people when she barked and she was the nicest dog ever...just a big, black Lab. Sawyer has a good bark and a heckuva warning stare to him and he might one day back it up if pressed but I hope to never put him in that position. Aussies were bred to be the "all-purpose' ranch dogs though, going from working to playing to guarding at the drop of a hat, all the while being goofy and clowny with their families and friends.
Really, any dog that barks (especially black ones) are going to be a huge deterrent. Virgo scared the poop out of people when she barked and she was the nicest dog ever...just a big, black Lab. Sawyer has a good bark and a heckuva warning stare to him and he might one day back it up if pressed but I hope to never put him in that position. Aussies were bred to be the "all-purpose' ranch dogs though, going from working to playing to guarding at the drop of a hat, all the while being goofy and clowny with their families and friends.
Yeah, I saw that I'd need to get a young Shiba to be able to work with one. They are good looking dogs though and would feed my love of Japan. We're going shelter searching on Saturday 
Hopefully we'll find someone who fits us well, even though they might not be barking at people at the door right away as they adjust.
Release: I have a dog, she doesn't bark ever while in the house, not even when everyone is gone (Or at least she thinks we are). I love her to death but she's just too friendly to make me feel safe. Also, we have alarm system stickers on our window/door. It's not much of a deterrent. The honest truth is that I live very close to a bad part of town and the people that are coming from that part of town just don't care.
I'm looking into going to an army surplus store and getting a small blade to keep on my person when I'm forced to walk at night.
Hopefully we'll find someone who fits us well, even though they might not be barking at people at the door right away as they adjust.Release: I have a dog, she doesn't bark ever while in the house, not even when everyone is gone (Or at least she thinks we are). I love her to death but she's just too friendly to make me feel safe. Also, we have alarm system stickers on our window/door. It's not much of a deterrent. The honest truth is that I live very close to a bad part of town and the people that are coming from that part of town just don't care.
I'm looking into going to an army surplus store and getting a small blade to keep on my person when I'm forced to walk at night.
We actually had a litter of shiba puppies not long ago in our shelter. Anything's possible, we get lots of weird breeds in the shelter. We had Mama surrendered to us a few days before the pups were due and she gave birth in the shelter. The pups appeared to be purebred or close to it. Mom was papered.
Please be VERY careful. A small blade is not going to stop someone intent on hurting you. If they get close enough for you to use it they'll probably just take it away from you or use it against you themselves. It might be better to get something like pepper spray that can be used at a distance before they get hands on you, and then make your escape. Carrying a very loud whistle that you can start blowing to attract attention helps.
Noisy=troublesome target.
If you have any dog with you too, that in itself is a deterrent. If you make more work/trouble for them they are likely to look for a new target.
Actually, an airhorn wouldn't be a bad idea.
Noisy=troublesome target.
If you have any dog with you too, that in itself is a deterrent. If you make more work/trouble for them they are likely to look for a new target.
Actually, an airhorn wouldn't be a bad idea.
I say small because carrying a fixed blade weapon concealed on your person isn't quite legal out here. Also, I've been trained in knife weilding/defense techniques through the form of aikido I do. However, you're right, if someone intent on doing damage gets close enough for me to use a blade, I'm screwed. As a 100lb 5' tall female, I'm not a scary person. My dad said he might get me some "dog mace" from work. I have this small LED/noisemaker that my mom got me for xmas because I was moving out but the noisemaker can go off randomly since the pin isn't very secure. I might still consider carrying it though.
I do hope to rescue a dog, here's to wishing for the perfect pal to be there this weekend
Also, everytime I'll be walking at night, I won't have a dog since it will be mainly me walking from work to the bus stop and from the next bus stop to home (Which is the half I'm really worried about)
I do hope to rescue a dog, here's to wishing for the perfect pal to be there this weekend
Also, everytime I'll be walking at night, I won't have a dog since it will be mainly me walking from work to the bus stop and from the next bus stop to home (Which is the half I'm really worried about)
