No Bulldog or Pekenese will Compete at Crufts
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http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/item/4205/23/5/3
No dog representing the Mastiff and Neopolitan Mastiff breeds will compete in Saturday evening’s Best in Group competition at Crufts after they failed the new veterinary checks that have been introduced to the show.
The Best of Breed award was not given to Mastiff, Secret Charm Avec Dibest, or the Neopolitan Mastiff, Ithani, following their veterinary checks, which were carried out by an independent veterinary surgeon. This means that they will not be allowed to continue into the Working Best in Group competition.
No dog representing the Mastiff and Neopolitan Mastiff breeds will compete in Saturday evening’s Best in Group competition at Crufts after they failed the new veterinary checks that have been introduced to the show.
The Best of Breed award was not given to Mastiff, Secret Charm Avec Dibest, or the Neopolitan Mastiff, Ithani, following their veterinary checks, which were carried out by an independent veterinary surgeon. This means that they will not be allowed to continue into the Working Best in Group competition.
This is what failed so far:
- English Bulldog
- Pekignese
- Clumber Spaniel
- English Mastiff
- Neopolitan Mastiff
The only one I know of with an 'official' reason is the Clumber, which failed for bilateral ectropion and conjunctivitis. The bulldog I've heard so many things- ectropion, a 'scratch' on the eye, breathing troubles- it seems everyone is just speculating. They're not releasing the information about the reasons that the dogs fail. The clumber's documentation got slipped and photographed. Rumor on the neo is ectropion.
- English Bulldog
- Pekignese
- Clumber Spaniel
- English Mastiff
- Neopolitan Mastiff
The only one I know of with an 'official' reason is the Clumber, which failed for bilateral ectropion and conjunctivitis. The bulldog I've heard so many things- ectropion, a 'scratch' on the eye, breathing troubles- it seems everyone is just speculating. They're not releasing the information about the reasons that the dogs fail. The clumber's documentation got slipped and photographed. Rumor on the neo is ectropion.
What is the level of confidentiality on the results of the Veterinary checks?
A. The matter shall be kept confidential between the relevant parties. If the exhibitor is approached, what they allow to become public knowledge is at their discretion but the Vet and Show Society must keep the reason for failure to pass the examination confidential.
Will details of failed checks be published?
A. No, the details of a failed Veterinary check will be kept confidential but any Best of Breed not awarded will be annotated in the Kennel Club Stud Book.
Q. What will be published on Show result websites?
A. If a dog has failed the Veterinary check, the Best of Breed should be published as ‘Not Awarded’.
http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/item/4176
A. The matter shall be kept confidential between the relevant parties. If the exhibitor is approached, what they allow to become public knowledge is at their discretion but the Vet and Show Society must keep the reason for failure to pass the examination confidential.
Will details of failed checks be published?
A. No, the details of a failed Veterinary check will be kept confidential but any Best of Breed not awarded will be annotated in the Kennel Club Stud Book.
Q. What will be published on Show result websites?
A. If a dog has failed the Veterinary check, the Best of Breed should be published as ‘Not Awarded’.
http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/item/4176
http://www.the-kennel-club.org.uk/services/public/breed/watch/Default.aspx
i found this and you pick a breed and it says what they are concerned about. seems with mastiff , to big and to much skin could do it.
and with stoic dogs how can you tell by looking at them they are in pain?
i found this and you pick a breed and it says what they are concerned about. seems with mastiff , to big and to much skin could do it.
and with stoic dogs how can you tell by looking at them they are in pain?
Do we know how thorough the vet checks are? I mean, I'm guessing they don't xray hips or elbows, right? Do they do blood work? Vision and hearing tests? Fecals? LOL. I mean, they could be pretty extensive, or they could be pretty superficial. Surely there's a written standard for the vets about what to check in the exam?
Although I can understand people saying that if the Best of Breed dog fails, they should put up the next dog, I kind of think there is a benefit to not doing so. I assume (I know very little about conformation shows) that the breed judges are often associated with the breed they are judging? If they know that by putting up an extreme example, they are potentially putting the breed at risk of not competing. Rather than letting them just vet check dog after dog, until they find a sound one, the judges may chose to go with a more moderate dog right from the start.
I'd like to see all breed winners tested, for that reason, and because choosing just the "high profile" breeds doesn't sit well with me.
My other thought about it is based on rumors, but still holds true even if the information I heard was wrong. While I don't think a reason for the bulldog failing has been made public, I had heard that he passed the physical exercise portion very well. I think that, especially in breeds that are so riddled with a variety of issues, the baby may be thrown out with the bathwater. Let's say this was a bulldog who (for the breed) had exceptional respiratory soundness. He could run/jog/shuffle around the ring without sounding like an old man with a cold sleeping on his back. I'd say that's kind of a big deal. So if this same dog has a skin issue, do you pull him? Do you say he shouldn't be bred? Or do you chose to breed him to carefully selected females who may be able to pass on his improved respiratory function while hopefully improving upon his skin issues? If the breeds are going to be "saved", we have to start somewhere.
Random musings from one who has no dog in the fight.
I'd like to see all breed winners tested, for that reason, and because choosing just the "high profile" breeds doesn't sit well with me.
My other thought about it is based on rumors, but still holds true even if the information I heard was wrong. While I don't think a reason for the bulldog failing has been made public, I had heard that he passed the physical exercise portion very well. I think that, especially in breeds that are so riddled with a variety of issues, the baby may be thrown out with the bathwater. Let's say this was a bulldog who (for the breed) had exceptional respiratory soundness. He could run/jog/shuffle around the ring without sounding like an old man with a cold sleeping on his back. I'd say that's kind of a big deal. So if this same dog has a skin issue, do you pull him? Do you say he shouldn't be bred? Or do you chose to breed him to carefully selected females who may be able to pass on his improved respiratory function while hopefully improving upon his skin issues? If the breeds are going to be "saved", we have to start somewhere.
Random musings from one who has no dog in the fight.