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Yah it does. Just read the side panel thing and it says "add stress zyme to remove chlorine and other harmful chemicals".

Well, hope that'll do him for a bit. He's still alive. And I think he's doing a bit better. He moves about a little now, but not much. But at least he's not lying on his side looking pathetic.

His breathing is still pretty slow and looks somewhat labored. But time will tell.


Oh and I'm leaving his little light on too. It should help warm up the water.
 

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non idodized salt as well make sure it is that kind...and very very little
 

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Non-iodized?

Do they even sell that any more? I know they used to but people weren't getting enough idiodine in their diets so they put it in the salt.
 
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The ionization proccess was to keep the salt from clumping when really humid or during rain.

Im trying to find the link on ionized salt (table salt) in aquariums.
 

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you can get both at the grocery.(it will say so on the label for some people are allergic to the standard kind).and sea salt at the pet store which is really best.
 
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Are the additives in table salt harmful in aquariums or ponds?

The short answer is “no”. Neither the small percentage of iodides nor the anti-caking additives can be considered to be dangerous when the salt is used in ponds or aquariums. There is no valid reason to use only non-iodized salt yet this is always a hot topic for discussion and argument among aquarium hobbyists. In reality, the minuscule amount of iodide that would end up in a treated pond or aquarium is likely to be beneficial (as a potential source of essential iodine for both certain plants and animals) and certainly not harmful. Fishes can suffer from goiter (= iodine deficiency) also.
found at
http://www.aquascienceresearch.com/APInfo/Salt.htm

This should cover the salt topic.
 

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i stand corrected..learned something new today..this is what i was always taught in the past.
 
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I was taught the same as you SMKIE. Somebody on a fish forum I used to haunt was a chemist as well as a wild aquaculturist. I wish I could find his article.
 

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Well, Azul has passed on. He was found lying motionless, not breathing, next to the treasure chest he loved so much to hide in.


I'm gonna bring a water sample down to the store either later today or tomorrow and find out if it was the water that ultimately did him in or something else.

It has to be something else though, or I would think so, because he's lived in that aquarium without incident for 5 months.

So anyways that's that. I'll get another betta if my water checks out fine and I'll ask the fish people what they think might have happend.
 

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fish can have as many internal things go wrong as people too..just always remember to isolate a fish before you introduce it to your tank until you are 100 percent it isn't diseased. sorry sorry.
 

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He was the only fish in the tank. The first one in the tank as well.

But what gets me is that he was up and about on Sunday, Monday he falls sick, Tuesday he dies.

And the only foreign materials introduced were his food and the tap water (but that was after he had already fallen sick).


Do fish diseases take their toll that quickly?
 

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they can have tumours and deformities, just about anything could have gone wrong..i had fish for years and years..the same ones and one developed an awful growth on his side that ended up his demise. who knows what happened..most of my fish lived for at least 5 years on average if not much longer. i kept Goldfish, fancy ones. I did see a special with that man that has all the animals on tv on the weekend mornings..i cant remember his name. He said alot of things about bettas that i didn't know. One major point was just exactly how warm their water had to be. That they were native to these little tiny puddles making them ideal for small containers that had low oxygen. He showed how they go up and get a breath of oxygen from the top and use that for most of their o2 intake. He did say that the containers with the plants that are so popular are betta torture tanks. the plant does nothing to remove toxins and in fact increases the bacteria. he said they need their water changed every other day in a small container. I do believe he said the life span is a year or two. PROviding they have the right care, the right food and are kept warm enough. Warmth was a prime factor in his info. He suggested keeping a light on them to keep the water in the 80s like they prefer.
 
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Sorry to hear about Azul :( That's how all me bettas acted before they passed away. Jippy once went into a spell like that but he pulled out of it and died a few months later.

Smkie, my cousin breeds bettas and his breeding males live on average of 4-5years!
 

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Tank has been set up for 5 months now...and what do you mean 'cycle'? It ran normally for two weeks before I bought Azul.
 
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Actually the stress zyme should have helped the cycle.

The cycle is developing the bacteria to turn the amonia waste from the fish to nitrates and then to nitrites (fish people or is it nitrites to nitrates?). If the amonia or nitrites gets too high it is fatal to the fish. When you have the water checked they will tell you what and how much is in your tank water. Im sorry I didnt think to ask if the tank had been cycled.

This should explain the cycling process.
http://www.practical-pet-care.com/article_view.php?ver=67
 

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If anybody knows the name of that man that has the pet show on tv on the weekend mornings..you might be able to find the episode on his website about the betta info. Was very very interesting.
 

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