My Step-dad was hitting Hershey!!!

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:mad: He was hitting Hershey, a bunch of times, and I went over there, and slapped him on the head, and said you don't do that! He said, "I was teaching him" And I said, "what, to fear you?" he said, "no, not to do that" (Hershey took a bun from the counter) lol, I told him to drop it, he ate it! lol. ug, my stupid step-dad won't listen to me!! :mad: What do I do? I don't want Hershey to fear me.. I can't make my step-dad listen, I said, I know more than you. ug, he said I know nothing about training a dog. :mad: I've been to puppy class, and they said NEVER HIT YOUR DOG! This makes me angry! He won't listen to anything I say!! :mad: He kept hitting poor Hershey... So this is why I hit him. Sound good? He deserved it. (the step-dad did) Not Hershey, Hershey was being a dog.
 

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Oh god. Way back when my mom's boyfriend use to hit my dog with a broom. I say your best bet is to talk to him about it when you both have cooled off so you aren't still in reaction.
 

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OMG!!!!!!!!!!! I am soo sorry :( poor, poor hershey :(

You really need to get a book, or maybe print something out (that looks official!) and show him how dog training has changed.

As infuriating as this situation is, the calmer you are, the more your step dad will be willing to listen. Nicely explain that while hitting used to be a training technique, it is now known that it is NOT effective. Who left the bun out for hershey to grab?? Whoever did is responsible for him grabbing it. By not allowing him the opportunity to grab something off the table, he will lose interest in it.

Could you maybe even have your trainer talk to him?? He may be more willing to change after hearing a professional tell him that hitting is NOT okay!!! Just try and get it through his thick skull! Check out TONS of books from the library, and show him where it says NOT TO HIT.

poor hershey :(
 

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Tell him by hitting him that you will teach him to hide with the food or just eat it faster, he will learn to guard and eventually bite. My dad used to do that so when Max would take something and dad saw him, Max would take off running down stairs then swallow it nearly whole (did it with a steak once). Then when I took over training and Max took a yummy tissue out of the bathroom and was heading downstairs I said "come" and he ran back up and then I took it from him, praised him and then gave him a treat for bringing me his tissue. i don't know it seems not hitting works a lot better to me.
 
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Ya, not hitting is the way to go, they listen better, and I am afraid if he gets hit to much, that he won't listen to me anymore. And then start to bite in fear of people. No matter what. I hope it doesn't go there. ug, I hate my step-dad, and I tried to tell him, but he said "Its like spanking a child when they did something bad" urg, he doesn't get it, and hes not listening tom me. And my brother, who was 8 at the time of puppy classes, even heard the trainer say, Never Hit Your Dog for Punishment. Or Never call your dog for punishment, and then he is going to mess up all of my hard work with Hershey. Which I hope my mom says something like, "Let her take care of it" At least I know what I am doing. By not hitting him. But at least telling him No. and taking it from him.
 

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That would make be far, far, far beyond livid. Poor Hershey.
And yes, with stealing food and food possessiveness, scolding doesn't help. It usually just makes them more defensive and scarf it down even faster. As far as hitting, that is never okay IMHO. I just don't know how you could help him change his mind...
 
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Could you leave Hershey in a crate when your not home? Then when he is out try and get to him first for corrections? It's hard to change people's habits. Eventually, your step dad might see your training techniques will get him further than hitting. Sorry Hershey and you've been put in that situation.
 

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show him this webpage. that hitting dogs makes them mean. that it is nothing like hitting a child, which happens to be inappropriate all the same.
 

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My step dad has a very bad temper, and doesn't listen to me either. :(
One time Charlie stole a glove from the garage to play with, and my step dad chased him around the yard trying to wack him with a baseball bat! :eek: Luckily Charlie was *way* too fast for him! I'm so glad he didn't get hurt.. I was like "omg, it's just a stupid glove, nothing to kill him over!", but he doesn't listen to a thing I say, I always end up getting yelled at. (I'm a little scared of him myself :p ) I just brought Charlie back in the house with me and let him cool off.

I think you should try to educate your step dad... Maybe have him read some of the training posts on here? Or at least try to explain to him, after he calms down, that there are other ways to discepline, hitting will only cause injury of emotional problems for the dog. :(
 
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Poor Hershey!!

I agree you should calmly explain to him that dog training isnt like it used to be & that you have no problems controlling Hershey. You said he dropped the bun when you told him to..

Also, talk to your mom and let her that you know what you are doing. It might work?

Poor Hershey. I would be very mad if someone hit my dog.
 

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(((((hugs)))))) for you and Hershey. I like the idea someone mentioned about keeping him crated while you are away, then you will be able to continue working with him in your own way and show your step dad how it's done :)
 

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I'm so sorry to hear this. Some people need training themselves. I'll be sending good thoughts your way that things get better.
 

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You've come so far with Hersey !! Hang in there !!! You don't want him to be banned to the back yard again .
 
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Well, crating him, I am afraid, for 7 hours a day, yikes, too much crating.. And then he would I don't think I'm his favorite person.. Cause I always have to tell him no.. And I feel that our bond is down the dumpster too, I just need to face it, the dog hates me, and loves everyone else, he never wags his tail for me..
 

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Spirit, telling the dog no will not make him hate you..................hitting him on the other hand will definitely make him hate your step dad. Hershey is grown, and I don't think crating for 7 hours is the ideal way to go, but it won't hurt him either. It's better than out in the cold or being hit, and it won't last forever..............just until you can get him trained better and show your step dad how it works.

Lots of dogs stay in crates 7-8 hours a day while people work/go to school. Sometimes it's better than the alternatives.
 

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Spirit,

Hershey does not hate you. Forget for the moment about the tail wagging and all that, dogs throw body language to appease as well as to show affection so just leave the more obvious displays out of things and your emotions to one side for the moment.

This thing with your step dad is a big problem as I know you know. What is the point of bringing that good dog out of the cold only to have him made hand shy or learn to fear men.

I am not for one second suggesting that you go back on the promise you made that dog. But you must box clever here, sweetie. Confrontation and in-your-face 'I know better than you' type arguements are not going to help.

This makes me want to puke just writing it but can you get on stepdad's good side by pretending you need his help? Don't shove a sheaf of notes in his face and say I told you so. Print out some particular exercise that you would like to do with Hershey and ask him to help you teach it.

A trainer would have a better idea of something suitable. Relatively quick, fun and where two people can be involved. All I can think of right now is having Daddy dearest help you hide things while you encourage Hershey to find them but I know that's not a good example.

Involve your stepdad in The Hershey Project. Don't alienate him. And don't hate him either honey. He knows not what he does. He may just be delighted to have found a way to connect with you.
 
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Well, when he was a puppy, about the crate, we used it for punishments, :( And now, he hates it. He does not have one anymore. She got angry at the crate.. :confused: But, then again, my grandma comes down at 12:00 every day to let him out. Unless my step-dad is here. He lets him out.
 

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Man, what a situation to be in. :( Well, here's my advice.

1. Try to keep on your step-dad's good side while presenting your information in a calm way. I know that will be really hard--I know I would've gone berserk if anyone hit my dog. But you don't want him to arbitrarily ban Hershey from the house or something. "Patience is a virtue, possess it if you can, seldom found in woman, never found in man."

2. Is Hershey inside full time right now? Congrats on getting him in at all, BTW! :) I really, really suggest that you not leave Hershey inside unsupervised yet. If your parents decide he's too much trouble inside, they may ban him from the indoors completely . . . so you'll have to keep him OUT of trouble until he understands the "indoor rules". So I would suggest a crate--if you start feeding him in it and leaving treats in it he may learn to like it or at least tolerate it. If it were summer I would suggest you leave him outside when you aren't around if he really can't stand the crate, but in the winter . . . brrr!

3. Give your dad a spray bottle and tell him to spray Hershey, NOT HIT HIM, when he's being bad. I know some members here will disapprove of this, but my feeling is that your step-dad probably has an "old-fashioned" view of animals, like my dad originally did. If so, you are unlikely to be able to convince him that physical punishment won't work, no matter what books and articles you have. A spray bottle will satisfy his desire to physically do something and will be far less harmful and painful to the dog (and to his relationship with your step-dad) than hitting. Spraying > hitting. Maybe it's not an ideal solution, but you've got to work with the family you have, not the family you wish you had.

4. Do your darndest to anticipate things that will tempt Hershey into trouble (like food left on the counters) and to head them off at the pass by removing the food and encouraging your family to not put food on the counters. Does Hershey regularly counter-surf? Is there anyway you can keep him out of the kitchen entirely? A baby gate, perhaps?

Enlisting your step-dad's help is a good idea because then you can subtly redirect him (your step-dad) into GOOD training techniques. Also, try things like teaching your dog a command *really well* and then have your step-dad "help" you with the command as a finishing touch. He'll feel proud that he (ha ha) was the one who trained Hershey to [name of command here] just right.

*hugs* Don't give up hope. My dad was raised on a farm and started out with the view that dogs belonged outside, that only small dogs were meant to be pets, etc. He wanted to build a doghouse for Ebony outside because he honestly thought she would be happiest out there. (My mom and I nixed this idea.) But after a few years, he got to enjoy talking to her and having her "talk" back (she made these garbled sounds--"eeeeoooorawrawrohhhhhh".) When we finally had to put her to sleep (old age), he kept saying what a good dog she'd been and how she was a dog in a million. Sometimes it just takes time for people to re-evaluate and realize they were wrong.

Also, don't get down about Hershey hating you. I'm positive he doesn't hate you. Imagine there was a child who never had to do any chores or homework or clean his room. An utter lack of discipline is not a good thing for a child, nor is being prevented from going to school. But all the same, if someone came along and started making that child do chores and go to school, the kid might be resentful and surly at first. BUT eventually the kid will get over it and be happier. :)
 
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So sorry dam sometimes ugh people make me want to scream.
So im in the Vet 2 days ago with my bitch for her after pregnancy check up.
And a woman is in there filling out a dog bite form her dog bit her and her hubby and she was having the dog destroyed.

Well any way she tells the vet tech " I was not doing anythign to her this mourning I just reached for the clicker and she bit me?

then says " we sometimes HIT her with a rolled up newspaper but we did not do it today"

THen it dawns on me if they can use a new paper why NOT a remote control.

I gave the the nasty look sighed and took care of my girl.

Sad some people dont know better..

Good JOb on yoru step dad.
 

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