Meet Joey
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Podengo can have dark or even black pigment it just isn't accepted there are a few off colors in unregistered hunt pack in the US and fairly common in Portugal. Same with podenco breeds in Spain but both are fairly rare here.
Either way he is adorable I'm glad thinks are working out with everything Im sure you can wait to have hi hoe finally
Either way he is adorable I'm glad thinks are working out with everything Im sure you can wait to have hi hoe finally
Yeah, I've seen podencos with dark nose and eye pigment.
The thing about black noses in purebred beezers is the entire breed is liver and white, which is recessive. It would be like breeding two chocolate labs and getting a black lab. Just not possible without adding something else. The reason it's a disqualification is it shouldn't be possible, so if someone produced a black pigmented beezer it would, in theory, have to be a mix.
There can be weird random mutations, and it's possible something like that could happen. But it would be pretty random/rare.
And Amber, he is stunningly cute!!!! I keep forgetting how little he is until I see pics of him curled up. <3 <3 <3 And I LOVE the one little white tip on his ear!!! Adorable!!!
The thing about black noses in purebred beezers is the entire breed is liver and white, which is recessive. It would be like breeding two chocolate labs and getting a black lab. Just not possible without adding something else. The reason it's a disqualification is it shouldn't be possible, so if someone produced a black pigmented beezer it would, in theory, have to be a mix.
There can be weird random mutations, and it's possible something like that could happen. But it would be pretty random/rare.
And Amber, he is stunningly cute!!!! I keep forgetting how little he is until I see pics of him curled up. <3 <3 <3 And I LOVE the one little white tip on his ear!!! Adorable!!!
I don't mind if he is mixed or not. The only thing that would push me to hope I could get away with him being purebred is so that we could lure course for titles. There's always fun runs though so while we may not earn titles I can still run him.
I just noticed from rereading this thread that I was asked how he is doing since he was having the diarrhea issues. He is doing SO much better in that department. I think having him on a better food now is helping tremendously and I'm so glad he is starting to put on some weight. He doesn't seem to be able to hold it well past 4-6 hours. I'm going to have a vet check done to make sure he is healthy and that nothing is medically wrong with him. He'll be able to go to work with me though I'll probably have to hire a dog walker on days when I'm going to be gone a little longer.
I just noticed from rereading this thread that I was asked how he is doing since he was having the diarrhea issues. He is doing SO much better in that department. I think having him on a better food now is helping tremendously and I'm so glad he is starting to put on some weight. He doesn't seem to be able to hold it well past 4-6 hours. I'm going to have a vet check done to make sure he is healthy and that nothing is medically wrong with him. He'll be able to go to work with me though I'll probably have to hire a dog walker on days when I'm going to be gone a little longer.
Congrats on the new addition.
I don't think you'll have an issue ILPing him. I'd see if taking the photos outside in the sun would minimize the darkness of his pigment. Set him up to look Ibizan-y in the pictures. The form asks why you feel the dog is purebred, tell them what you know: you got him off the original owners who bought him from an Ibizan breeder in FL but they did not give you papers with him.
I don't think you'll have an issue ILPing him. I'd see if taking the photos outside in the sun would minimize the darkness of his pigment. Set him up to look Ibizan-y in the pictures. The form asks why you feel the dog is purebred, tell them what you know: you got him off the original owners who bought him from an Ibizan breeder in FL but they did not give you papers with him.
I also wanted to add that dogs with disqualifying faults can still be ILP'd. Ziggy has a DQ fault similar to Joey's, his nose pigment is liver and should be black. Liver pigment can and does happen in Cardis though, breeders call them "dudleys". I think they look at general type when determining if a dog can be ILP'd or not. Does the dog overall look like X breed? Ziggy is obviously a Cardi and the his nose pigment doesn't make him look less Cardi like. It sounds like a dark nosed Ibizan might be a bit different though.
ETA: If you are planning to ILP him as an Ibizan, you really should stop saying "he's not a purebred Ibizan". The world is a small place, if you really don't think there's a chance he's a purebred and feel uncomfortable saying he is a purebred than you probably should not try to ILP him. ILP is intended for unregistered purebred dogs, dogs that people have no reason to believe are not purebreds. ILPs can be revoked and can be revoked if someone points out to AKC that you admit that you know the dog isn't a purebred or don't believe him to be. Better to go with Canine Partners if you don't feel he is a purebred and feel weird saying he is. He can still do CATs so coursing won't be out, just competitive coursing. I'm not sure what the rules are for non-AKC coursing?
ETA: If you are planning to ILP him as an Ibizan, you really should stop saying "he's not a purebred Ibizan". The world is a small place, if you really don't think there's a chance he's a purebred and feel uncomfortable saying he is a purebred than you probably should not try to ILP him. ILP is intended for unregistered purebred dogs, dogs that people have no reason to believe are not purebreds. ILPs can be revoked and can be revoked if someone points out to AKC that you admit that you know the dog isn't a purebred or don't believe him to be. Better to go with Canine Partners if you don't feel he is a purebred and feel weird saying he is. He can still do CATs so coursing won't be out, just competitive coursing. I'm not sure what the rules are for non-AKC coursing?
If the ILP does go through as a purebred, he can most likely still not course, any default that would send the Ibizan Hound out of the ring at a confirmation show will also disqualify them from coursing, ILP or not. They are not as strict as they are with whippets, but they do judge color in Ibizan's during the inspection.
But he can still do CAT, agility and obedience!
But he can still do CAT, agility and obedience!