Leaving your dog at home.

Simon P

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Most of you surely had to leave dogs home for extended period off time. I work 10 hours a day and I understand that its a bad idea to let my dog alone that long.I live alone and will have a 7 weeks old dobe, they require exercise and will get bored/destructive if not exercised enough.

I was thinking of spending 1 hour before work training/playing and 1 after, my little sister would come home a couple hours after I leave to play/walk her.
Is this enough ? What else should I consider doing ?

Thank in advance.
 

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This is an ongoing challenge for working people.
I think it is an excellent idea to have you sis stop by.
At first your dog should be crated or in a large wire cage because he could get into a lot of trouble, chew electric wires, etc. not to mention soiling the house.
You can leave toys and kongs also to keep him occupied.
Is there any way you can get a couple days off to get him settled in?
Years ago, I asked for and got a week off when I got a new puppy. Subsequent dogs and jobs have not netted the same results but it never hurts to ask.
I can tell you are going to be a great dog owner because of the thought and preparation you are putting into planning for the pup.
 

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It is a great idea to have your sister stop by -- in general, a puppy should not be left alone for more than 4-6 hours (they can't hold their blatter for long). Perhaps a couple of days a week you could also leave her at a doggy daycare. Not only will she be kept busy, but she will recieve socialisation.
 

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Simon P said:
Most of you surely had to leave dogs home for extended period off time. I work 10 hours a day and I understand that its a bad idea to let my dog alone that long.I live alone and will have a 7 weeks old dobe, they require exercise and will get bored/destructive if not exercised enough.

I was thinking of spending 1 hour before work training/playing and 1 after, my little sister would come home a couple hours after I leave to play/walk her.
Is this enough ? What else should I consider doing ?

Thank in advance.
I'll give you my 2 cents worth as I was once in your situation. What I did was the following :

1. I took 2 weeks off [ I was entitled to 2 weeks vacation / year ]. I had planned my vacation so it started the day after I got my puppy [ he was 8 weeks of age ]. During those 2 weeks he was in the crate for not more than 2-3 hrs. / day to minimize the stress of a new environment and being locked up at the same time. At night I had a mattress in the living room and he slept next to me on the floor to get him used to me and bond together. Needless to say, I rarley slept because at that age I had to take him out every 2-3 hours.

2. During those 2 weeks I stuck to a very strict schedule for feeding and potty training. The same schedule I knew I would to stick to when I returned to work.

3. In the morning I left him in the garage as I had no one to stop by in the mornings to check up on him [ I didn't mind him soiling the garage. After all I didn't expect an 8-week old puppy to hold himself 10 -11 hrours. ] At night, for next week or so I'd put him in the crate at 11.30 pm and get him out at 5 am the next morning. Then I started get him in the crate a little earlier each 2 weeks until I hit my target of him being in the crate at 9.30 pm. I did that to minimize the number of hours he spent in the crate for the first 2-3 months.

Now he is 1 year old and he is rarely in the crate. It will work out for you but it will need some effort, dedication and sacrifice until things settle. Try and spend a lot of time with him on weekends and nights. You want him to bond with you. Good luck and keep us posted.
 

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One of the reasons we have had such strong relationships with dogs over the thousands of years is that dogs form strong social bonds, like we do. Seperation from their family is usually followed by behaviors which are used with reuinting; increased agitiation, exploring, distress vocalizations and if there are physical barriers, chewing, digging, scratching etc. Although they are not very well prepared genetically to be alone, let alone all day, they learn. It is so common place in our society. It is not genetically natural for them to be alone, so steps must be taken to make the dog able to be alone.

To make training go smoother in puppies or new dogs, who don't have severe seperation anxiety, set the precedent right away. A lot of people will tend to spend oodles of time with this new, fascinating and adorable puppy, will not go to work for weeks so they can constantly be with the puppy with the intent of making him feel secure. But then they all of a sudden go back to work and it's a big let down for the puppy. He has to adjust suddenly to this void. So, right away, start leaving the pup many times for brief periods. Teach him from the get go that people will not always be available and that when people leave, they always come back. Leave him in a dog proof place or crate with stuffed chew toys so he won't guess wrong what to chew. Be sure he's getting good predatory play on a daily basis. Fetch, tug, and hide and seek.

Come and go continually. Don't make a fuss over hellos and goodbyes so the puppy or dog becomes somewhat less attentive to all these departures and returns. It is absolutely normal for puppies to distress vocalize when you leave them alone, even for brief periods. It's the way they are naturally. You can modify that. If you reinforce the whining, barking, crying it will become stronger. If you withhold reinforcement, it will extinguish. When you return, if you don't want this barking and crying, wait for a lull before you walk in the door. Don't worry if you think he needs to go to the bathroom or anything else. You're trying to train out the crying. If you don't remove the reinforcement, the dog will tend to carry on anytime you come and go even if he's not upset. So, in other words, if you like the noise, respond to it. If you don't, don't.

Keep all your comings and goings low key. The gushing hellos and long good-byes with tons of loving, cuddling and talking and not only useless, but serve only to increasee the contrast between when you're home (happy) and when you're gone (emptiness) Try everything you can think of to make this contrast less. Save the best chew toys for when you're gone. Play fetch, tug toys when you're at home with your dog. Give that predatory energy an outlet. Get him out into the world for socialization, new sights, sounds and experiences to process every day. This tires out his mind too.

I know some dogs can hold their bladders and bowels for a very long time, but those last hours must be pretty miserable, so do what you can to get someone over there hopefully more than once. It's not fair to make him hold it for too long. Four hours is already a long time for a pup.

Never punish your dog for chewing something after the fact. I don't like punishment at all for teaching. If you come home and he's wrecked something (if he's not in a crate) even minutes later is not fair. He won't make the association.

A Doberman really needs a lot of time with their owners. They're quite miserable left alone. They're so programmed to be near their owners. This is a hard breed to have when you're not home with her. Do whatever you can to get someone to come over more than once if you're gone over 10 hours. You'll have your work cut out for you when you come home after a long, tiring day at work, won't you. I assume you looked into the breed thoroughly before getting her. They definitely need a ton of exercise, but careful with young bones and an outlet for their drives and mind. If they don't get enough, they become incredibly destructive and a real problem. They're sensative and punishment based training is hard on them IMO....

So, good luck and I hope things will go well for you.
 

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Thanks for the advices, good thing I found this forum full of helpfull people and info.

Doberluv, I will follow your instruction and try to have someone come over each 2-3 hours to let her relieve herself.I will live in a house divised in two appartments and my neighbor surely will not botter to spend a little time with my dobe.

They also have 2 labs, I will need to introduce themselves to each others. She will be kept busy with them.

Again, your help is much appreciated.
 
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You should def. have someone stop by as other people have said.

There is one day where by dog has to be alone for an extended period of time. We always have someone to stop by, at least to allow the dog to go to the bathroom. If your sister can spend sometime walking or playing with the dog that is even better.

Good Luck with your new puppy
Elissa
 

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Lots of great advice so far. I had to chime in though, as this has been the greatest challenge with me and my now almost 7 month old Beagle. I got him at 6 weeks and have gone home every day at lunch time to let him out and play with him. (I work about 15 min's from home.) So although not impossible it is still a bit trying since you never get to go to lunch with co-workers, etc. But my baby came first.

Since day 1 I have trained him to be in his crate while I am at work. Gradually he has become reliable out of the crate over the weekend while I run short errands (not more than about 15 min's or so.) I strongly advise on the crate training and wish you the best of luck! I am also glad you are being pro-active and seeking advice, you will certainly make this pup a happy owner.
 
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we have been lucky

We have been lucky! We got our pup at 10 weeks and he was absolutely fine with being crated for 4 hrs at a time. I generally leave for work around 7:30am and then husband comes home around noon or 1 and lets him out potty and plays with him ect for an hour or so--then back in the crate till I am at home after 5--he has never had an accident in his crate--does not cry when he is in there--and does not make a fuss (not one peep) when we come and go. At night he sleeps as long as we do and holds it and has never had an accident.
Now he is almost 13 weeks and can sleep (or sit quietly) in the crate all night from 11pm to 7am and has been left as long as 6 hours in the crate during the day and not had a mess.
Have to brag about my baby a little.......
 

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Simon,

I work 10-11 hours per day also. I leave my house at 7am and come home around 6:30pm. Being the sole caretaker of a dog is a TON of work, so I know how you feel.

Here's what I do. Let me preface this by saying that I have two dogs, so they always have each other when I'm not there.

I wake up at 5am, walk them, feed them, and then take them out again at 6:40am. I leave for work at 7:00am.

I hired a dogwalker who takes them out from 10:00am-11:00am and then comes again from 2:30-3:30pm. So basically, I have the dogs going out every 3 hours. As an aside, they love the dogwalker. She does a great job.

So when I come home at 6:30pm, they are still on that "every 3 hours" schedule. I take them out when I get home from work and then feed them dinner. I then walk them again before bed, usually around 10pm.

During the day, I make sure they have toys to play with and I also have the dogwalker give them each a Kong after the afternoon walk.

I also leaving music playing for them all day.
 

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Good, that give me a very good insight at what to expect and how much time I will spend with my dobe. Im more than ready to get that little thing :D
 

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