Is your breed next? You'll be shocked by some of the dogs on here...

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I am so anti-new-legislation it's not funny. Too many excuses for authorities to randomly meddle into our lives as it is.

If you want to legislate that dogs should have to have a CGC, then how about legislating that people have to raise their kids not to tease and torment animals? That adults who tease and torment animals and don't teach their kids not to be punished? That every dog owner treat their dog with proper respect . . . That no dog be chained outside or be subjected to physical brutality as a way of training . . .

It all sounds good, but it's not possible to legislate these sorts of things; at least not without some sort of totalitiarian mindset and an unbelievable amount of expense for enforcement.

A dose of common sense would go a lot farther. When someone gets bitten, how about asking "Why?" instead of just assuming the dog is at fault? And geez . . . how many people rush off to the emergency room because they've gotten nipped and the skin is broken? Flush it out and treat it with Neosporin or Betadine and ask yourself why the dog bit and if it was even a bite or a play accident. Once it goes to the emergency room it's a statistic and a big deal - most of the time totally unnecessary.

"Don't tease the dog!" should be something that is first and foremost in the mind of anyone who is around a dog. We expect dogs to have more self control and forebearance than we ever would! Dogs put up with things that we'd never endure without lashing out, and when they're finally pushed beyond the point of endurance we act like the dog is vicious or unstable.

Teach kids not to run up to strange dogs and don't do it yourself. Now how hard is that to figure out?

And a little common sense about the dog that's chosen for the environment would go a long way too. An Australian Cattle Dog in a city apartment that is never able to go outside off leash is going to be a miserable, unstable dog . . .

I'd bet that the vast majority of dog bites are totally preventable - by a dose of common sense!

But I'm preaching to the wrong crowd - you guys already know this :D
 
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Completely agree Renee, maybe they should bring in a legislation preventing human adults having kids unless they pass a common sense course. Sorry I suppose thats a bit harsh....... :D
 

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as in you don't believe those breeds are being banned or as in you don't have one so it's not your problem?

As in I dont believe all those breeds are being banned.

Try being a little less agressive with your questions next time.
 

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No one ever said they were being banned here. That is a list of dogs that have been banned, will be banned, or that they are trying to get banned. At least that is how I took the explanaition. So because you don't believe that ALL of those breeds are going to be banned then you aren't going to sign it. So half of that list isn't reason enough? ONE of those breeds isn't enough for it to be wrong?

She wasn't aggressive in her question you apparently just took it too personally.
 

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No one ever said they were being banned here. That is a list of dogs that have been banned, will be banned, or that they are trying to get banned. At least that is how I took the explanaition. So because you don't believe that ALL of those breeds are going to be banned then you aren't going to sign it. So half of that list isn't reason enough? ONE of those breeds isn't enough for it to be wrong?

She wasn't aggressive in her question you apparently just took it too personally.
Thats how I took it too, however, I answered the question posed to me! Not my fault the question was an invalid one!!

I see no reason why I'm wrong to question something when the original poster included no links to where all this came from.

However, if anybody wants to convince another person its a good idea to sign something and support the campaign, being cold and blunt in your questioning is not the way to go about it.
 

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Well you do know that pitbulls are in immediate danger of being banned yes? or no? this is not reason enough to sign? Do you think it is right for any breed to be banned? I could care less if you sign or not, if you don't someone else will sign in your place. She was just wondering what your possible reason could be to not want to save a breed from extinction. because she didn't have MORE links posted up there, thats a silly reason. hmmm the question was invalid? how so? because you don't want to answer it or because you don't have a reason.


Oc_spirit hahaha I totally agree. There are too many irresponsible humans out there who won't take responsibility for their own actions and w ould rather see their dog die than be responsible. but half of the population don't take care of their own children let alone a dog. They just let their children run wild in the street. I guess they think its not their responsibility. People are just to god **** lazy anymore to take care of a dog. They just chain it up in the backyard because its easy and convenient.

All of those bites could have been prevented had the dog been A) properly trained B)on a leash C) in a secure fenced in yard with a gate that works or in the house. D) had responsible owners who had a clue about how to have a dog.
 

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Sorry I suppose thats a bit harsh....... :D
Don't be... The truth never has anything to hide from or be ashamed about.

A good friend of mine always says.. "If the truth hurts, step back." Pretty good advice if you ask me.
 

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Banning breeds because of irresonsible owners... Why do our "leaders" always want to blame the "tool" used to commit an act and not the person responsible for using the "tool" improperly?

I know this issue goes a little deeper than that, because our beloved pets are much more than just a tool, but I hope you can understand what I mean. Think of this in the same light as the anti-gun people wanting the 2nd Amendment repealed because criminals use guns to commit crimes.

I wonder how any logical person could agree with banning a breed? Oh wait, maybe I just answered my own question. LOL
 

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What? That list comprises pretty much EVERY breed of dog that is likely to be found. What a ridiculous waste of legislative time and money.

What is the criteria for a breed's addition to that list? A documented injury caused by a dog or just someone doesn't like the breed in general?
 
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I don't have any info on the subject...I was just crossposting. I do believe those were the dogs with the highest bite rate, but I'm not sure.

What really gets my goat is when they ban the Pitties, they ban any dog that looks halfway like a Pittie. So they are going by looks instead of behavior!! That just ticks me off! :mad:
 

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Okay, have to bring this topic back into the light. Vickih, Sorry if I was too aggressive for you, I just thought it would be ignorant to be saying "oh well, it's not my dog" and moving on. As for the list it is relevant around the world, not neccisarily to the US but potentially the US could follow suit and pass similar laws. That is the problem. Well that and the fact that most people don't read over the laws when they vote for or against them, just read the part about them being "problem breeds". If anyone had bothered to read my last post I explained WHY some of the breeds would be on there. Apparently everyone was too busy lambasting everyone else to either read what I wrote or go and do their own research. What I said was :
The list not only reflects so called "dangerous" breeds but breeds that have been bred out so far as to have defect if not bred by responsible breeders. Erego the Golden and Labs. Aussie shepherds if bred improperly can be born deaf,blind or both, due to that gorgeous merle patterning that some have. Also if imbred can be VERY dangerous to non-family members and other such intruders. A few of those dogs have shorter life spans then average due to their huge size. Some have health defects due to their small size. The purpose of this bill is to eliminate 1. Problem dogs that have "genetic" reasons to bite and 2.dogs that it is "cruel" to propagate the breed if bred improperly or accidentally. In theory it is to make it so joe shmo can walk into a breeder, buy a "perfect" dog that won't have the propensity to bite, isn't too big that it dies in a few years, isn't too small that it has problems associated with that, isn't wrinkley because the wrinkles are "high maintenence", won't have hip displaysia, won't have heart problems and won't have any distinguishing characteristics. They want to take the dog back to how "nature" intended but in truth "nature' had nothing to do with household pets. It's a stupid law but a scary one. Pitties are obviously on this list along with other "scary" breeds and so many people are scared of "vicious" dogs that there is likelyhood of this being one of those bills that get signed and passed without being looked over by the average voter. They see pitbull and go "oh yeah, lets ban them" while not reading the "fine print" that discriminates against so many other breeds.
I think it is worth looking into for your own country and state personally. This is the first step to the extinction of spacific breeds. People with their goldens and labs and mutts, so called "safe" breeds are very comfortable signing a bill about "dangerous" dogs. Make yourselves aware, this bill isn't about dangerous dogs. Its about dangerous people who don't like dogs.
 

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I signed that petition! You better believe I'm gonna sign it, noone's taking my babies away from me. ALl my dogs are either purebreed or crosses of something on that list!
 

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Hey folks...is this happening to your breed? Or are you next?


Time to start getting worried about BSL - Please read. This has been brought on by the recent "pit bull" attacks. I apologize if this is a duplicate of any other postings and for being off topic. This is no time for "it's not my breed" or its "only" specific breeds. Crosspost far and wide!



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pugs? what the.. no this wont happen. goldens?there the american favorite.
i think this might be someone worrying a bit too much..whoever wrote this. people wanting bans on pits is onee thing, dogs, that have no agressive background is another
 

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Hi!

Been following this for some time now.. it is really sad.. but it is people´s fault! Wrong breeds and wrong people (some probably shouldt own a dog in first place) pushed it so far..

Most of breeds on that list doesent surprise me, like belgian shepherds, they are not dogs for everyone...

Bye, Katja
 

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