Impulsive or "Thinkers"

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We have all met impulsive dogs, dogs that fly off the handle and just DO whatever pops into their heads or their emotions drive them to do. Then there are thinkers, dogs who evaluate a situation before acting, dogs with more self control. What breeds tend to be more impulsive and which tend to think things through (in your experience)? Or do you think it's more of an individual thing or a "how they're raised" thing and less of a breed thing?
 

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I don't think it is a breed trait for Gusto, as I know a lot of terriers and border collies who are very impulsive, but he is the biggest thinker I've ever met. It actually made training him incredibly frustrating until someone point out to me that that is what was going on. He over-thinks everything, he proofs out every skill I teach him. There are times where I think he's being stubborn or stupid and I just start to get so frustrated - until I remember who he is and what he is doing.

He also does latent learning more than any dog I've ever worked with.

We've actually just been dealing with both of those things (I posted this in another thread already, but it is relevant here). Some of our training group has been working on the 'put front feet on perch, pivot for heel position' thing. I had tried it with Gusto when he was recovering from his injury this summer, and had to stop. Because when I put a bowl on the ground, he'd put his front feet on and get his reward, but then would try and see what happened if he put all four feet on? Or three? Or the back two? Or what if he lays down with his front feet on? While barking? I got worried he was either going to hurt himself or I was going to choke him from frustration. I went to record the fiasco a couple of days ago to show the training group - and darn if he didn't slam right into the correct position first time. And every time after that. I don't think we've even tried the skill since September, and he sure didn't have it then.

I actually wonder how much it is nature vs nurture. Gusto did a ton of shaping work very young, so he learned how to try things and proof things from the beginning. It's an interesting topic. I'm curious to hear what others think.
 

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Merlin is sweet and thoughtful (when it comes to things like his teeth/mouthing etc..) but he has almost no IMPULSE CONTROL

His first instinct is YAY FUN HELLO I LOVE YOU and the second is "oh my bad. Sorry."
That dog that gets 2 inches from the cliff before he realizes he probably shouldn't jump off it for a tennis ball? Merlin.
 

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Well Auggie is a thinker and Payton is impulsive. So I would say individual rather than breed.
 
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Ivy is a thinker and a planner. She notices things being different, she figures out how to open gates, she is wonderful at free shaping, etc.

Qcumber is impulsive and a bit spastic. He knocks things off tables, sits on cats, jumps through windows, breaks down gates, and free shaping is really hard for him because he just sits and stares and shakes with excitement (I realized yesterday how long it had been since I worked him on it...whoops! too long obviously)
 

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I think it is individual mostly....

I think individuals can vary too. Both Hank and Mia are thinkers AND impulsive depending on what the thing is they are doing. And Summer is really neither. She's just sweet. :lol-sign:
 

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I think it's individual, although I haven't worked with multiple dogs within a breed to have anything to justify those thoughts.

Of my 2 that I work with, it is SOOO clear that Juno is the thinker, and Cajun is the impulsive one. Both traits have things that frustrate me, and things that I love.
 

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I think it is individual mostly....

I think individuals can vary too. Both Hank and Mia are thinkers AND impulsive depending on what the thing is they are doing. And Summer is really neither. She's just sweet. :lol-sign:
I agree. Dekka can be both depending on the circumstance. Cat, rat, (even bat.. lol things that rhyme with 'at') etc and all thinking goes out the window. Its all impulse and prey drive. When we are free shaping or she is trying to figure out how to get something -usually something she is not allowed -you can see the wheels turning as she takes time to think.
 

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No idea if it was a breed thing or just Charlie, but he was the absolute most impulsive dog EVER. Like a boy scout with ADHD.

The zois for the most part are pretty thoughtful and observant. All of the puppies in Kaia's last litter had a fairly high degree of self control, but then again it's something I try to impress on them very early on. Like having rules starting at 6 weeks old that the food bowl doesn't touch the ground until everybody's bottom is on the floor.

Luna is especially a thinker, much more than her siblings. She always was. When they were 4-5 weeks old I used to wake up and she'd be cuddled up next to me instead of the whelping box where I left her. :confused: So I pretended to sleep one evening to see how she was getting out.

When her siblings all piled in the corner to sleep, she sat apart from them and fought to stay awake until they were all passed out. When they were asleep they became a living step stool and she was able to climb on them and boost herself out of the whelping box, then make her way onto my bed.

She's definitely my dog. lol
 

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