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PWCorgi;2033026 I don't want a Standard Poodle :/ I love their personalities and smarts but seriously said:
I know standards are not the healthiest breed but the ones I have known have not had issues...I dont know that they are THAT unhealthy either. Comparing to Goldens for instance with their super high cancer rate...?
 

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Honestly that list wouldn't scare me off. They have a potential for bloat, clogged pores, dysplasia, like any breed, and I'd be aware of the eye issue (CERF and see if they've identified a genetic test like PRA in eskies) and the vWD. Looks like a set of tested parents should led a very healthy pup.

The grooming cost an frustratingly silliness of them as young adults would get me. lol they are awesome dogs though.
 

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A chinese crested, just love the look. If my kids got into dogs more and needed a smaller dog to handle, I'd be tempted.

Another golden - a friend has the most amazing boy, he's actually mine but he lives with her (or at least I'm hoping if I say that enough, I can take him home!). I'd take one of his pups in a second, I have as many pictures of him on my phone as my own dogs.

More border collies but that's expected. I'm really enjoying Kilt, even as a pup she's not a pain in the house, I may regret not teaching her much about playing fetch but it's nice to have her in the house and not have to worry about her pestering the cats or picking up a toy and wanting to play fetch non-stop.
 

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Probably half the Goldens I know are reactive. D: To dogs of course. Very soft with people, but DA/DR seems to be rampant in the breed nowadays. They tend to be very stubborn, too, my least favorite breed to groom by far.

Standards are nice dogs, but I can't see you with one! They are a bit dorky and serious. The grooming is painful!!! This is coming from a groomer. It takes 3 hours just to bathe and fully blowdry a Poodle, much less clip them. Unless you get your Poodle completely clipped down (which I think makes them look fugly), you're going to be spending hours brushing that coat out, detangling, and around $500 a year on grooming costs. PRA, vWD & allergies are very common, affecting most of the Standards I know, including all 3 of my boss's dogs. They are lovely dogs but without allergies or a special affinity for the breed, I wouldn't recommend it.

I think a Smooth or Rough Collie would work very well with all of your needs! I've never met ONE who wasn't just a dream... they are happy to a fault, and very smart but not demanding like a Border Collie. All of the Collies I know are great with all dogs & people, they really have hearts of gold. :) I wanted a GSD, but now that I'm having a baby, I'm leaning more towards a Collie for my next dog. Idk if I want to deal with training and working a powerful, intense breed and a toddler at the same time.
 

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Romy, do Zoi puppies tend to be quiet or are they loud like normal puppies? Lol
Pretty quiet. There are nine in my back yard right now and aside from Sirin having a screaming fit earlier because she wanted the humans NAO! they haven't made a peep.

Both of my adults were really quiet as puppies, just some whinyness during crate training and that went away pretty quickly.
 

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A nice, working-bred Sibe fits the bill.

Extremely intelligent, high energy, no protective or guarding instincts, and when raised right does very well with other dogs, animals, can be quiet, very hardy and tolerant of most weather, can be a ball or water dog....pretty flexible and dependent on how they are raised, really. Few heath issues. Sensitive GI tract, but easily dealt with when you're knowledgeable on canine nutrition.

Only drawback is that they are quickly making BSL lists and generally have no interest in their owners/handlers at all. Not particularly biddable at all unless there is something in it for them. Quite a training challenge in that regard.

Another drawback is, of course, there's virtually no decent breeders in the AKC or United States since none of that stock came from the original Siberian Huskies and they are all bred for conformation only. You'd need to go Canadian or United Kennel Clubs.
 

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I vote for a Golden. :)

Grace's temperament is amazing. Super confident and everything just rolls off her back. She idolizes Bailey, but, thankfully, his anxiety hasn't rubbed off on her at all. She's smart and generally biddable, though we're headed into teenage puppy phase.

Cancer is a big issue for the breed, sadly.
 
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I would say any of the sporting breeds - Goldens, Labs, Spaniels, Setters, etc. If you got one as an adult from a breeder rehome or a rescue that fosters, you could get a better idea of their individual personality.

I, of course, would vote for a Golden. :D But that's just because my aunt had one when I was growing up and I LOVED THAT DOG. She was awesome. The only time she barked was when someone was at the door, she would have let a stranger into the house no questions asked, she loved the water, and she had a really high toy/food drive (but not over the top). I know they got her as a puppy from a breeder, but I don't know what "kind" of breeder. She lived to be 14 with no major health issues though, and didn't have any aggression/reactivity/anxiety issues whatsoever.
 
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I agree a lot of the sporting breeds would suit you. These days, though, it seems like I see a lot of nervy, anxious goldens. That, along with their copious health problems (allergies, cancers) make it hard for me to really strongly get behind them even though many of them are really lovely dogs. :(

I think standard or miniature poodles are a good choice, too. I've never considered them particularly unhealthy breeds, there were a couple lines around the Twin Cities that had a lot of Addison's but otherwise I haven't seen any particular major problems in them. I would consider them generally healthier than goldens for sure. The grooming needs would drive me personally nuts, though.
 

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I freaking adore Brittanys! I love their size, and all the ones I've met are on the quieter side, and they have tons of energy! Are they normally ball/water dogs?
Rescue or breeder? Can I go breeder hunting for you and in 7-12 years you can get one, like my toller... ;)
 

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On a more serious note, a gordon setter would fit really well with your requirements.
I have a bias. All but one of the Gordons I've met are dumb as a box of rocks. And huge dumb dogs break things and get in the way. Small dumb dogs are cute.
 

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I have a bias. All but one of the Gordons I've met are dumb as a box of rocks. And huge dumb dogs break things and get in the way. Small dumb dogs are cute.
Every Gordon I know is dumb too. Sadly the same can be said for Irish and English setters though, I know too many "pretty" ones at my work.

I grew up with a family friend owning a gordon though and he was super cool. I don't remember if he was dumb or not because I was too young to know different but man he was tolerant of all kids. He did have a very protective streak though, we were all "his" kids and he didn't like strangers approaching the playground when we were playing. I'm not sure if that is common or not though.

Oh and I LOVE brittany spaniels but the ones at my work are loud screamers and rival my malinois for busy energy sometimes. Fair warning, I actually like them for their energy and drive, I don't fancy their scream though. They're all spinners too (but I also get these ones in because "they're so out of control and can't just sit still on the couch!")
 

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I have a bias. All but one of the Gordons I've met are dumb as a box of rocks. And huge dumb dogs break things and get in the way. Small dumb dogs are cute.
Really? That's odd, every gordon I've met has been highly intelligent. Sort of like a brilliant golden retriever. My cousin's gordon, TJ, is super smart and he's really loving and sensitive.
 

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Oh and I LOVE brittany spaniels but the ones at my work are loud screamers and rival my malinois for busy energy sometimes. Fair warning, I actually like them for their energy and drive, I don't fancy their scream though. They're all spinners too (but I also get these ones in because "they're so out of control and can't just sit still on the couch!")
I don't think screaming is a widespread breed trait in Brittanys. The Brittany I know best doesn't scream or spin but he's a very high drive, fun loving, wild dog. One of the few dogs Savvy can really play with and enjoy the game as much as Savvy does. He is definitely a dog who needs daily exercise and interaction to be even acceptable in the house. I know another one who is being trained by a 4Her in agility and wow, that dog could be really something! She does vocalize while running agility but I've not heard her do it other wise. And another is in training at the local club who also has such awesome potential. Pretty sure she doesn't scream either. The one I know best was bred by someone aiming for DCs and the other two are pretty much totally field bred. They're all similar in drive and potential for sports I would say. I guess there are some strictly show breeders producing lower drive, softer dogs but I haven't been around those sorts. As a whole, the breed community is very into still producing functional bird dogs. The breed seems to be a bit more easily distracted by environmental things, especially scents than my Belgians but when they are focused - wow! I have found myself wondering why they aren't a more popular choice for sports.
 

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The three we have at work(that I work with, not the ones who come for classes), so it's a small pull, are hunting bred and have been use to hunt but are now being asked to be "just pets". Hence, the bubbling energy. One is pretty obsessive with fetch, one loves to train, and one is a super runner and screams on the treadmill until its fast enough for his liking.

Funny enough two of the three also own tollers so maybe the overt noise is learned?
 

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