Hikers best friend? Which is best?

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Doberluv said:
Oh....by the way, there was this one time where my young teens were at home alone. It was quite late at night and my husband and I were out at friend's. My Lab was up in my son's room and my son heard the door handle jiggle and at the same moment, my Lab did too. She ran down the stairs to the entry and was barking, growling, gnashing teeth....absolutely vicious. My kids were so scared, they climbed out of my daughter's window and sat on the roof. It looks like that dog would have defended them with her life.
All I can say is looks can be deceiving, chances of the dog going into avoidance if the attacker went into attack are very high for such breeds.

Thats not even considering that Labs are generally not physically capable to stop an attacker, nevermind their mental state at the time of attack.

Point is that most dogs will bark, but when push comes to shove only a select few, either trained or bred for protection, will actually bite the attacker.

Are you seriously going to argue with me about protection and guard dogs? :rolleyes:

I dont understand your persistance in this thread at this point.
 

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We English speaking people go by Webster's Dictionary definitions. That is our "bible." No matter how old our language is, doesn't change the definitions. If it's in Webster's, it IS the definintion. OK...so I'll believe you that you didn't mean any insult by saying that Labs were silly......for now, anyway.
Actually, I use Oxford dictionary. :p

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The ACD sounds pretty good, i know that they are very hardy and have GREAT stamina. And they are eager to learn and please
 

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All I can say is looks can be deceiving, chances of the dog going into avoidance if the attacker went into attack are very high for such breeds.

Thats not even considering that Labs are generally not physically capable to stop an attacker, nevermind their mental state at the time of attack.

Point is that most dogs will bark, but when push comes to shove only a select few, either trained or bred for protection, will actually bite the attacker.

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it doesnt really matter wheather or not a dog is physically capable of taking down an attacker. Any dog no matter what its size can put on a pretty scary display, i have had people scared to come into our yard because of buster and he is only up past my knees. Yet people will still not mess with him.

One lady had a little pom which actually "convinced" an attacker to leave its house.
 

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ROFLOL!!! That was good!
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They take their work very seriously and are darn good at it, as was mentioned in the highly specialized, huge array of jobs the Labs do for society. Have you even seen a Lab work? Of course they're fun loving, as are all dogs in general, just by their very nature of being canines.





Main Entry: sil·ly
Pronunciation: 'si-lE
Function: adjective
Inflected Form(s): sil·li·er; -est
Etymology: Middle English sely, silly happy, innocent, pitiable, feeble, from Old English s[AE]lig, from s[AE]l happiness; akin to Old High German sAlig happy
Date: 14th century
1 : archaic : HELPLESS, WEAK
2 a : RUSTIC, PLAIN b : obsolete : lowly in station : HUMBLE
3 a : weak in intellect : FOOLISH b : exhibiting or indicative of a lack of common sense or sound judgment <a very silly mistake> c : TRIFLING, FRIVOLOUS
4 : being stunned or dazed <scared silly> <knocked me silly>
synonym see SIMPLE
- sil·li·ly /'si-l&-lE/ adverb
- sil·li·ness /'si-lE-n&s/ noun
- silly noun or adverb

I, personally don't see a Lab as helpless, feeble, weak, lacking in sound judgement, lowly in station, foolish or lacking in common sense.

Taken in the context that these quotes were written, notably, the last, I believe the understanding of the word was right on. Notice too, the good grammar, good spelling, not leaving out the verb to be, ever....using adverbs correctly, the order in which ther verbs are placed....perfect... good command of the English language. Plus, if this guys from Russia, do you know how many years of English they take in school (as a general rule)? They probably speak better English than a lot of Americans. I can't speak in particulars in this case, not knowing. But, either way, not knowing the definition of the word, "silly" is b.s. I don't even have to look at other posts to form my opinion as to what the intention was here.

Hey, if anyone critizes my human children or insults their character, I'd get after it with them too. It's not only my dogs. If you didn't mean anything, what so ever, not even in the slightest.... to be insulting or putting down, then I apologize for my sensativity.
i think when they said silly they ment

skittish and playful, labs are just big puppies, but lovely things. But, i may stand corrected, i didnt see the original post and i have never personally met a lab. I saw a quide dog once though lovely thing, just lay there. So i will agree that they do take their job seriously.
 

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anyway what happened to this thread, i read the first page and made my suggestion, went to the last page and it was all about protection dogs???
i say ACD
 

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mrose_s said:
it doesnt really matter wheather or not a dog is physically capable of taking down an attacker. Any dog no matter what its size can put on a pretty scary display, i have had people scared to come into our yard because of buster and he is only up past my knees. Yet people will still not mess with him.

One lady had a little pom which actually "convinced" an attacker to leave its house.

Some people are afraid of dogs... If an attacker knows anything about dogs he will not even flinch.
 

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not necasarily, you can no all to know about dogs and think a lab won't attack, some dogs get abused, some get agressive, there is no way to know whether or not a dog will attack you untill it does or doesnt
 

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not necasarily, you can no all to know about dogs and think a lab won't attack, some dogs get abused, some get agressive, there is no way to know whether or not a dog will attack you untill it does or doesnt
Ok, keep thinking that, im not gonna try and change your opinion :p
 

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Thats kind of counter productive though because a pit in 99% of cases make terrible attack dogs :)
I agree, But they do look tough! and with the people I am talking about, it is all about looks.
 
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I do think that many people who get pitbulls get them because they want to look "tough". Usually teenage guys, if you ask me...
 

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I do think that many people who get pitbulls get them because they want to look "tough". Usually teenage guys, if you ask me...
I wish that weren't true.... from what I see in the Cities of Chicago and Milwaukee (Outside of the show ring) most (not all but most) of the people in the city who get these dogs use them as status symbols of Toughness and Virility.

There is also a group of people who have taken them in, out of Pity because they are so often abused. A lot of the people I volunteer with at the Hum. Soc. have adopted Pits and Pit mixes for that very reason.
 

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I like a pit, cause I like a pit.

They're cute to me... they're big (I love big dogs, small ones too, but I prefer big) and they're just cool to me. I like 'em not for the bad rap they have and the "if you mess with me, my pit bull will tear you up" confident-like attitude.

They're just cool dogs to me, like GSD's. The one I own now.

The next dog I plan on getting is probably going to be either an Amstaff or a Bullmastiff.

They're also great guard dogs too... I always like that trait in a dog... even if he's not, so be it. I'm not scared easily and I can hold my own...

The only thing bad I've heard about Bullmastiffs and bully breeds from websites as I researched them is that they are hard to train and not very smart.

True or not? <---- for those of you who have owned a Bullmastiff or any other Bully breed.
 
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I'm not saying all teenage guys, it's just that to many people, pitbulls are "tough" and most teenage guys want to look "tough". Believe me, there are lots of idiotic teenage guys out there...I've met a few (unfortunately) :rolleyes:
 

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